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UPDATE: New West Virginia Poll Shows Manchin Barely Hanging Onto Narrow Lead

First Posted: 09/21/10 09:50 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:45 PM ET

Joe Manchin

***UPDATE***

Update (9/21): Earlier today, PPP released a new survey of West Virginia that shows Republican John Raese leading Democrat Joe Manchin, 46% to 43%. Our trend estimate now splits the difference between the two most recent polls, leaving the race essentially even (Manchin 47.1%, Raese 46.3%).

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The smattering of new statewide polls released over the last few days yields no new significant trends, although a new poll on the West Virginia Senate race shows the Democrat, Joe Manchin, maintaining narrow but consistent lead over Republican candidate John Raese in September.

The new survey, from automated pollster Rasmussen Reports, gives Manchin a seven-point lead (50% to 43%). Rasmussen is the only pollster to release results in West Virginia since July, but their last three polls conducted over the last four weeks show Manchin leading by 6, 5 and 7 percentage points respectively, for an average of 50% Manchin, 44% Raese. While those margins are far closer than what Rasmussen and other pollsters measured earlier in the summer, voter preferences in West Virginia appear to have stabilized, at least for now, leaving Manchin with a modest lead.**

Other recent polls of note:

Two new polls released over the weekend in Pennsylvania confirm the single digit lead that Republican Pat Toomey has held over Democrat Joe Sestak since July. Both the live-interview Wilkes Barre Times Leader poll and a PoliticsPA/Municipoll automated survey yield much larger numbers of undecided voters than other recent surveys, but the effect on our overall trend estimate) is minimal. Our trend estimate now shows Toomey leading Sestak by eight points (46.7% to 38.7%). All eleven public polls released in August and September have shown him leading by margins ranging from 2 to 11 percentage points.

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This past Friday, Rasmussen Reports also released another automated poll yesterday on the Massachusetts governor's race that shows Democrat Deval Patrick running just three points ahead of Republican challenger Charlie Baker (45% to 42%), with independent Tim Cahill falling to just 8%. Massachusetts is another state where Rasmussen has produced most of the recent polling -- three of the four surveys released in August and September. Rasmussen's surveys of likely voters have shown a steady decline in support for independent Cahill, from 23% in April to 8% on the current survey, although a poll of all registered voters conducted in late August by the State House News and KRC/Communications Research showed Cahill winning 18% of the vote and slightly larger Patrick lead over Baker (34% to 28%).

**The recent polling in the West Virginia Senate presents a scenario that our classic polling chart does not handle well. With fewer than seven polls available, our standard practice is to draw a linear trend line (or, in plain English, a straight line) through the data points. In this case, the straight line tries to reconcile two polls conducted in July that showed Manchin leading by more than 20 points with the three more recent Rasmussen polls showing consistently narrower margins. The result is that the trend lines converge on an estimate of the margin that is closer than any of the last three surveys. Since the last three Rasmussen surveys show no discernible trend, we've opted to report on the average of those surveys rather than our chart's trend estimate.

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***UPDATE*** Update (9/21): Earlier today, PPP released a new survey of West Virginia that shows Republican John Raese leading Democrat Joe Manchin, 46% to 43%. Our trend estimate now splits the di...
***UPDATE*** Update (9/21): Earlier today, PPP released a new survey of West Virginia that shows Republican John Raese leading Democrat Joe Manchin, 46% to 43%. Our trend estimate now splits the di...
 
 
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Michael Shanahan
08:57 PM on 09/21/2010
Rasmussen only polls likely to vote people, people who voted in the last election. PPP polls all voters in most of their polls. Rasmussen nailed 2004 and 2006 better than any other poll.
03:49 PM on 09/21/2010
Unfortunately, neither poll even asks about Jesse Johnson, the Mountain Party ( WV Green) canditate. I know that third party candidates are not considered viable in our polarized "democracy" run by the two big corporate supported parties. Perhaps one reason for that seems true is that news agencies refuse to even acnowledge the valid independent candidates. (Perhaps the reason for that is that the third parties can't often afford ads on their channels or papers! )
Anyway, despite the reports from the polls and in the news, Jesse Johnson has a prettly large grassroots base. Everyone I know is voting for him. Ken Hechler (WV Dem. ) recently endorced him. When news agencies act like third party candidates don't even exists, people don't know that they really do have a choice. Manchin is the "lesser evil" for many. Why vote for "lesser evil" when you can vote your conscience?
02:32 PM on 09/21/2010
PPD has the republican up by 3. Manchin 43%, Raese 46%. I don't know what to make of some of them. DailyKos and PPD has Ron Johnson 11 points ahead of Feingold!
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lizmckenzie55
You're gonna find yourself somewhere, somehow ...
03:09 PM on 09/21/2010
The latest poll that I have seen shows Johnson only has 7 points. I live in Wisconsin and the commercials Feingold is putting out are phenomenal ... showing Johnson for the liar he is.
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tnlcallen
02:34 AM on 09/22/2010
You do realize that political ads are a bit dishonest at best.
02:06 PM on 09/21/2010
7 points isn't narrow. 1 point is narrow.
01:26 PM on 09/21/2010
Manchin thought this was going to be an easy win.
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situationcritical
SuperMegaUltraUberLiberal
01:00 PM on 09/21/2010
It's Rasmussen, so we can safely assume the Dem is 20 points ahead.
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Jimmy Medeiros
12:33 PM on 09/21/2010
Rasmussen , this is the poll that had George W. Bush up by 6 points going into election day in 2000. Enough said.
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Broderick Crawford
02:03 PM on 09/21/2010
They were correct in picking the winner. Chances are good they will be correct again.
05:52 PM on 09/21/2010
actually the supreme court picked the winner.
just sayin'
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Jimmy Medeiros
08:11 PM on 09/21/2010
Rasmussen was off by 6+ points anf Jeb Bush stole Florida for his brother! Chances are they're six or more points off.
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tnlcallen
02:35 AM on 09/22/2010
He probably would have won by that margin if the Dems hadn't pulled that little surprise of theirs the weekend before.
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Jimmy Medeiros
11:26 AM on 09/22/2010
Some people are STILL in such denial!
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SPQR1052
VET & GLBT - http://www.ryanvouchercare.com -
12:27 PM on 09/21/2010
Rasmussen enough said.
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jerzygurl
12:30 PM on 09/21/2010
I agree. Can't trust anyone other than PPP...LOL
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/close-race-in-west-virginia.html
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Jimmy Medeiros
12:21 PM on 09/21/2010
Sarah Palin as Bible Spice , now that's priceless !
12:15 PM on 09/21/2010
I've renamed the GOP to the SAP - Stone Age Party.

Because if we put them in power, that is where they are sending us. Back to the stone age.
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Fortheloveofhumanity
Their walls are built of cannonballs
08:54 PM on 09/21/2010
No we only want to go back to ohhh 1776.
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Brandon1990
12:11 PM on 09/21/2010
Lets go Dems!
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Fortheloveofhumanity
Their walls are built of cannonballs
08:54 PM on 09/21/2010
Yep go home!
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Hillrick
...wheel to the storm and fly!
11:54 AM on 09/21/2010
Between teh overconfidence and the fear of losing when it's so close the GOP is going to start saying and doing more and more outrageous things as we come up on Nov. If anyone has watched this party REACT to everything for the last few years there should be serious doubts about placing them in power. Like consistently hyper scared chicken littles, these folks shouldn't be runing a church bake sale.
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formerroadie
I am a liberal and proud of it!
11:59 AM on 09/21/2010
Oh, it's going to get nuttier this time around, you betch'ya. It will be Bible Spice crazy all the way. I can't believe people vote for conservatives in this country.
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jerzygurl
12:03 PM on 09/21/2010
Democratic playbook to retain Congress.
Blame Bush, ridicule Palin, ridicule Beck, ridicule tea party, blame McConnell, blame Boehner but nothing is working & time is quickly running out....So tragic & a complete waste of effort.
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Hillrick
...wheel to the storm and fly!
12:10 PM on 09/21/2010
You hate reality, don;t you. I'm betting you're not really a gurl.
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k6007
Obama/Biden 2012!
12:15 PM on 09/21/2010
No one has to ridicule those imbeciles. They do a fine job of that all on their own.
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iam7545 r
11:51 AM on 09/21/2010
Oh - here is the link to the PPP poll just released today - Looks very bad for Manchin - this could be the final nail in the coffin

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/close-race-in-west-virginia.html
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jerzygurl
12:03 PM on 09/21/2010
THANKS.
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k6007
Obama/Biden 2012!
12:21 PM on 09/21/2010
From your link..

--These poll numbers show a much more favorable race for Raese than anything that's been released publicly to date so I'd suggest caution in declaring too much momentum for the Republicans in West Virginia before other data confirms it.--

But, of course, one can hope..
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iam7545 r
12:30 PM on 09/21/2010
K - the trend in WVA and nationwide is apparent and is due to the negative polling for Obama. In the case of WVA the negative numbers Obama has are loud and clear - even withing Dem voters. Manchin is gone - BYE BYE
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SPQR1052
VET & GLBT - http://www.ryanvouchercare.com -
12:30 PM on 09/21/2010
Somehow they always avoid the truth and details.
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jerzygurl
11:42 AM on 09/21/2010
Waiting in anticipation for The DailyKos/PPP poll which breaks tomorrow on WV race. Looks like Rasmussen poll has more faith in a Manchin  victory than the PPP. Stay tuned.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/ppp-republican-leads-in-wva-senate-race-103440549.html
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Jimmy Medeiros
11:38 AM on 09/21/2010
The infusion of the Tea Party candidates and all of these closed primaries are skewing the polling data and hurting the Republican party badly! The leadership has caused much of this with all their inflamatory rhetoric driving the party further to the right. I think that you folks will be very surprised in the end with how the vote turns out. Word here in Republican North Florida is that the party is very worried.
01:52 PM on 09/21/2010
Well said.