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Terrorist Plot Uncovered In Europe

PAISLEY DODDS   09/29/10 10:23 PM ET   AP

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LONDON — Police increased their guard around Buckingham Palace and other landmarks Wednesday as security officials monitored what they described as a fledgling terror plot to wage Mumbai-style shooting sprees or other attacks on Britain, France or Germany.

At least some of the recent CIA strikes in Pakistan were aimed at al-Qaida operatives suspected in the plot, U.S. officials said. European officials said the plot was still in its early stages and not considered serious enough to raise the terror threat level.

Still, the Eiffel Tower in Paris was briefly evacuated Tuesday – the second time in two weeks because of an unspecified threat – and French police were on alert.

A heavy police presence was seen Wednesday around Buckingham Palace, Trafalgar Square and Big Ben. Victoria Station was briefly evacuated after an unusual smell was reported.

"This plot was in its embryonic stages," a British government official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of his work. He said the plot had preoccupied the security community more than other recent threats, but did not merit changing the security threat level from severe to critical.

Some details about the plot came from Ahmed Siddiqui, a German citizen of Afghan background who was captured in Afghanistan in July, a U.S. official said.

Intelligence authorities used National Security Agency wiretaps to flesh out details, U.S. officials said, and while a Mumbai-style shooting spree was one possibility, there was no concrete plan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the plot.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told reporters Wednesday the U.S. was working closely with its European allies, but declined to provide specifics.

"We are not going to comment on specific intelligence as doing so threatens to undermine intelligence operations that are critical in protecting the United States and our allies," Clinton said. "As we have repeatedly said, we know that al-Qaida and its network of terrorists wishes to attack both European and U.S. targets."

"I want Americans to know how focused we all are in the government and how committed we are not only in protecting our own country but in protecting our friends and allies."

The Department of Homeland Security would not say Wednesday whether U.S. security has been enhanced as a result of the terror threats in Europe.

Revelations of the plot came just ahead of the anniversary on Thursday of the publication of the Prophet Muhammad cartoons in a Danish newspaper.

It also came as Spanish authorities announced they had arrested an American citizen of Algerian origin on suspicion of financing al-Qaida's North African affiliate.

Mohamed Omar Debhi, 43, was taken into custody Tuesday, although Spain's Interior Ministry said the arrest was not connected to the terror threat. He is suspected of laundering money and sending some of it to an associate in Algeria, Toufik Mizi, to be passed on to al-Qaida cells in the Islamic Maghreb, an Algerian terror group.

Europe has been a target of numerous Islamic terror plots – the deadliest being the 2004 Madrid train bombings, when 10 shrapnel-filled bombs exploded, killing 191 people and wounding about 1,800.

A year later, suicide bombers killed 52 rush-hour commuters in London aboard three subway cars and a bus.

In 2006, U.S. and British intelligence officials thwarted one of the largest plots yet – a plan to explode nearly a dozen trans-Atlantic airliners.

Despite the beefed up security presence at tourist sites in London and other European capitals on Wednesday, most visitors took the news in stride and went on with their sightseeing.

"In this case, ignorance is bliss," said Theodore John, a 35-year-old banker from Pittsburgh who was visiting Buckingham Palace and heard about the threat Wednesday.

Officials gave no other details of the terror plot except to say that it originated in Pakistan with a group "threatening to wage a Mumbai-style attack" on cities in Britain, France and Germany.

"This was the headline threat but it was not clear whether the attack would come in the form of shootings or other small-scale attacks," said the British government official.

A three-day siege in 2008 by gunmen in the Indian city of Mumbai left 166 people dead and raised fears of similar low-budget types of attacks around the world – a departure from the sophisticated and precision-planned Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States in 2001.

U.S. intelligence had heard of the European plot about a month ago and was monitoring the people involved, according to two U.S. officials. The CIA recently stepped up airstrikes from unmanned aircraft in northern Pakistan, in part to disrupt the plot.

However, a second British government official said that while the drone strikes were thought to have disrupted the planning of the attacks, the operation was still considered active. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of his work.

The Obama administration has intensified the use of drone-fired missiles in Pakistan's border area. This month there have been at least 21 attacks – more than double the highest number fired in any other single month.

CIA director Leon Panetta was in Pakistan for talks with the head of the country's main spy agency. A Pakistani intelligence officer confirmed Panetta was meeting Wednesday with Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha.

A Pakistani official said some information about the plot was coming from a suspect who had been interrogated at the military prison at Bagram Air Base near Kabul. Siddiqui is reportedly being held in Bagram.

The Pakistani official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing, characterized the evidence as more aspiration than a fully planned terror plot.

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Associated Press writers Angela Charlton in Paris, Daniel Woolls in Madrid, Gillian Smith and David Stringer in London, Kimberly Dozier in Islamabad and Matt Apuzzo, Adam Goldman, Eileen Sullivan and Matt Lee in Washington contributed to this report.

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03:20 PM on 09/30/2010
"In a sense, Islam is like a drug, like alcohol. A small amount can have a healing and inspiring effect, but when the believer reaches for the bottle of dogmatic faith in every situation, it gets dangerous.
This high-proof form of Islam is what I'm talking about. It harms the individual and damages society. It inhibits integration, because this Islam divides the world into friends and enemies, into the faithful and the infidels."---
Abdel-Samad.
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08:38 AM on 09/30/2010
I see my PC friends are out in force today. If self-righteous were grass and they were cows, they would be plump indeed!!

Look, this is  the real deal: What counts is not how to define terrorism or who is worse, al-qaeda or the Untied States (a real debate here!), but what is the West going to do about Pakistan??

The threats of terrorism (or "heroic acts of resistance" for some) are increasing from Pakistan.

Some propose that we continue in some form our military and political intervention in the region whereas others say we should pull out and hope for the best!

But whatever we do, we are still stuck with the fact that a whole lot of Pakistanis and Indian Muslims want to kill Westerners.

Unless you don't care about getting killed in an attack (by "heroic resistance fighters"), we also have to decide if we are going to allow Pakistanis to continue visiting our countries.

That is a HARD decision either way. Does anyone dare pronounce an opinion?
09:15 AM on 09/30/2010
They do produce prodigious amounts of sanctimonious garbage don't they?
12:26 PM on 09/30/2010
"But whatever we do, we are still stuck with the fact that a whole lot of Pakistanis and Indian Muslims want to kill Westerners."
well u must have done something that people want to kill u....how about killing innocent muslims in afghanistan and then making up the excuse of weapons of mass destruction and attackin iraq and then killin more muslims.....then makin fun of MUHAMMAD(P.B.U.H) through cartoons knowin that muslims will react to it.......u still wonder why?????? u gave them excuse to recruit muslims ...they hoodwink young passionate muslims that west is the enemy and ur provin them right.
and by the way Pakistan is paying the price of ur war against Afghanistan till now....do u know how many pakistani MUSLIMS die in suicide bombings?????look up....
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01:16 PM on 09/30/2010
Hi Ammarah Ali,

Welcome to these discussion threads. Even if we disagree, I prefer to talk frankly and politely and, who knows: we may agree more than we realize!

As for the Iraq War, I agree that the US made a huge moral and political blunder by invading that country. No, I have no sympathy for Saddam Husseein and I note that most Iraqis are happy he is gone, just as they say they would have been happier with America if it had deposed him and then left ipso prresto!

But my position was against the Iraq invasion, which has caused untold suffering among the Iraqi population and only embolded al-qaeda and other enemies of progress in the world!

As for Afghanistan, I do NOT know what is the best approach, America was well within its right to depose the Taleban regime because it harboured al-qaeda.

Now, it is obvious the American intervention has not gone well, but Afghanistan is not the same problem as Iraq.

However, America has mistakenly supported Islamic extremists in Afghanistan for decades, beginning with the war against the Soviet backed regime.

America should have stayed out of Afghanistan's affairs from 1979 on and it should have NEVER backed the various military regimes in Pakistan.

At the same time, Americans cannot be held responsible for all or most of Pakistan's problems which have deep roots in tribal tradition and history.

Above all, America is not going to leave alone al-qaeda or other groups wishing to launch terrorist attacks against the West in Pakistan/Afghanistan because we know they will come after us, as long as they continue to prosper.

Al-qaeda has been attacking American civilians for decades now and well before the latest Afghan war, so there is no reason to think they will leave us alone.

In any case, as long as Pakistanis support or apologize for Islamic terror against the West, I am for severely restricting their travel to Western countries. It is just a matter of self-preservation.
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01:23 PM on 09/30/2010
One last point about the Muhammad cartoons. There are about 6 billion people in this world, so it is inevitable that somewhere, someone will make fun of Islam. The Muhammand cartoons were meant to poke fun at terrorists, not Islam, but I agree that most Muslims viewed them as blasphemy and a grave insult. As such, I, like the vast majority of Americans and Europeans TOTALLY OPPOSED the publication of the Muhammad cartoons!!

But you and others in certain countries BLAME the entire West for the actions of a very few people!

Let's be reasonable! Western laws allow for freedom of speech, including speech which others views as disagreeable or donwright insulting.

I understand many nations do not share our views on free speech, but please understand that free speech does NOT mean that we condone offensive speech! Do you understand that?
08:29 AM on 09/30/2010
More gifts from the religion of peace.
07:20 AM on 09/30/2010
"Despite the beefed up security presence at tourist sites in London and other European capitals on Wednesday, most visitors took the news in stride and went on with their sightseeing."

The major differance between European and American : After a couple of moments the treat is gone and we get on with our lives, compared with a 30 day news cycle explaining to us what might have gone wrong if it happend, the drama that would have ensued(if it happend), and the fear we somehow have and need to live with day in and day out.

Fear politics and news reporting is not for Europeans.
08:46 AM on 09/30/2010
Well, you haveGeert Wilders, the moderate embodiment of multiculturalism. No fear monger he. LOL.
09:02 AM on 09/30/2010
Wow i did not know the whole of Europe consisted out of one country.

thank you for the info.
09:55 AM on 09/30/2010
True, in Britain it was news for one day only...that's it.
11:10 AM on 09/30/2010
Yeah....because the attack didn't take place.....yet.
Did the 7/7 attack remain in the news for only one day?
06:12 AM on 09/30/2010
An expression of thanks for the daily drone attacks, and now Nato chopper incursions across the border, maybe?

Of course some people will say so what? We're killing terrorists yadayada, though I wonder how they'd feel if the same was done to them and their families....

The best part is that imbedded B.Water operatives provides most of the intel for these attacks... Now they'd want the war to end quickly, and im sure, have no interest in perpetuating and instigating trouble in any country which might eventually lead to more contracts for them over a prolonged period of time...... No Sir!!

Welcome to the New world...
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10:24 AM on 09/30/2010
So your "logic" is that attacks on al-qaeda and the Taleban justify mass genocide in the West?

Or are you just repeating their "logic"?

Either way, people can justify any action they want, depending on the circular ideology of their choosing.
11:15 AM on 09/30/2010
The Left rationalizes "blowback" as long as it's only in one direction: from the Third World towards the West, and never vice versa. Fanned.
03:45 AM on 10/01/2010
Genocide in the west? According to fox news?

No, what im trying to point to is the futility of such attacks which have high civilian casualties serve no other purpose than prolonging this already ridiculous conflict.

If people can justify any action like u say, i'd like u to try and justify the deaths of a score of innocent villagers when the target was supposed to be one or two individuals....
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03:47 AM on 09/30/2010
Maybe this is true and we should all be alarmed.

"Some details about the plot came from Ahmed Siddiqui, a German citizen of Afghan background who was captured in Afghanistan in July, a U.S. official said."

But maybe he wasn't captured in Afghanistan? Murat Kurnaz was arrested in Pakistan and sold to the US who then reported to the press that he was captured in battle in Afghanistan. A lie.

Or maybe the "aspirations" mean simply that under "enhanced interrogation" in Bagram this man simply said "yes", while hanging from the ceiling and having been beaten and deprived of sleep for days, to the question: "You are planning another Mumbai-style attack on Europe"?
03:51 AM on 09/30/2010
And Leon Panetta went all the way to Pakistan to have some curry.
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02:08 AM on 09/30/2010
Hey, I've got an idea for these--and I use the term loosely--people: why not venerate your god by doing good, celebrate life, not death, contribute to society, make Islam proud instead of lashing out for vague reasons at Europe and The United States.
05:47 AM on 09/30/2010
Vague reasons?

Two wars, one outright illegal (Iraq) the other being waged with highly dubious intentions (Afghanistan), a third being stirred up with Blackwater??? operatives providing intelligence for drone attacks (Pakistan) resulting in massive "collateral damage".

I understand lives of Muslims or of those different than you might not weigh the same on the scale as your own, but believe me when i say this, it does to them. And they will retaliate....
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12:38 PM on 09/30/2010
What did London and Washington have to do with the nightclub in Bali, the theater in Moscow, the embassy in Africa, the hotel in Mumbai? It's been nearly 10 years since 9/11 and you still cling to the nonsensical notion that this is about occupation. Talk about missing the point. This is about Islamist terror, jihadist fantasies, and medieval social practices, not politics. Ah, what's the point of discussing it with you, anyway?
01:51 AM on 09/30/2010
When will the sons of Europe take back what is theirs?
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03:37 AM on 09/30/2010
The Buckingham Palace?
04:02 AM on 09/30/2010
Simon Cowell? You can have him.
12:06 AM on 09/30/2010
Calling All Reasonable People. I repeat. Calling All Reasonable People

Stop using the word terrorism and its derivatives.

It is emotive, dishonest, one-sided, simplistic, manipulative and hubristic.

Using it shows a lack of intellectual rigour, a lack of objectivity.

It is like calling someone a witch. It is the language of the village idiot.
01:24 AM on 09/30/2010
OK let me try: "Wednesday as security officials monitored what they described as a fledgling humanitarian plot to wage Mumbai-style shooting sprees or other attacks on Britain, France or Germany" Works better?
01:37 AM on 09/30/2010
i would say that humanitarian is inaccurate. Or maybe you are being sarcastic. It's just so hard to tell in the post-modern world we live in.
01:46 AM on 09/30/2010
"Stop using the word terrorism and its derivatives. "
OK.. we must be more politically correct and multi-culti about it.
Ho are some suggestions::
1.Involuntary life termination of Islamically challenged individuals.
2. Justice activity against Western capitalist hegemony.
3. Heroes of  indigenous  struggle.
4. Aerodynamic  experimentation with  fast flying  objects ( rusty nails and ball-bearings).

Happy?
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03:53 AM on 09/30/2010
Actually, Occam, the previous poster made a good point. When the term terrorism was finally coded in American law (in 1983), there was a great deal of concern about its definition, since just about every definition that congress came up with could fit the US.

This is precisely why nobody tries to define it. Just the usual platitudes ("hate us for our freedom", "evil-doers", etc) and a popular association with bearded men of a certain religion. This is evidence enough that this word is a political one, not a security or legal one.
03:58 AM on 09/30/2010
LOL..
11:27 PM on 09/29/2010
Wherever  you find evidence  of yet another ( among thousands annually ) evidence of islamoterrorism, you find members of the Islamist-Liberal League ( ILL) ferociously muddying the waters. T  protect  their membership base, no doubt.
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11:16 PM on 09/29/2010
This smells.

Might be a cover story...

people everywhere are getting disgusted with the Bankers...ri.ots today in Greece, Spain and Brussels.
05:53 AM on 09/30/2010
would NOT be surprised or shocked if it were one.
10:03 PM on 09/29/2010
Ah yes "The Power Of Nightmares" (Adam Curtis Doc.. Watch it)

Governments used to promise us a better tomorrow. That obviously didnt work so now they claim to protect us from the naughty wittle teworwists, and other assorted global threats.
There is a large sign up on my street (and yours) that says the threat level is Extraordinary. My neighbours and I are not bothered. We say BRING IT....that is to say, if it actually exists........
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09:38 PM on 09/29/2010
This is bad, but you know what's really bad? Christians. Especially slow-driving Christians.
07:24 PM on 09/29/2010
The Mumbai type of attack wouldn't work that well in the USA. The way our police train, and the presence of armed policemen to begin with, makes it a difficult task, not to mention the civilians carrying in their cars our on their person (which gets hairy when the police show up, just drop your gun and hit the deck for your own sake.)
08:18 PM on 09/29/2010
I'm not so sure, one jihadi doctor caused a lot of mayhem at Fort Hood.
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10:15 PM on 09/29/2010
It is still debatable whether the Fort Hood shooting was a "jihadist" event. Yes, he was Muslim, and yes he killed people, but that doesn't make it jihadist. Not every Muslim who kills someone is a jihadist. The Fort Hood shooting, even though he shouted "God is Great" while doing it, seems to be more comparable to Virginia Tech than to 9/11 or 7/7. Of course, it is still debated. I just wanted to point out that it is not so clean cut :)
06:48 PM on 09/30/2010
Only because it was an Army base, the mass shooting isn't what the American public fears, its bombings and chemicals and the likes, Americans get guns we understand them, we fear what we do not understand.
12:16 AM on 09/30/2010
It could easily work in the US on a soft target with minimal security. If it could happen at a military base...

Plus shootouts are not a rarity in this country...
06:47 PM on 09/30/2010
Yes but our SWAT teams and even regular patrols reaction time is fast and well armed, it does not make sense. As to your second comment, that's why it isn't very effective, not very terrifying to be shot at in a country with lots of shootings.
06:43 PM on 09/29/2010
Churchill once famously said that an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile in the hope that he will be eaten last.
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06:47 PM on 09/29/2010
The relevance to this article would be... ?
06:52 PM on 09/29/2010
Most European governments have been appeasing the disciples of the religion of perpetual outrage far too long.