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Mel Martinez Takes On DeMint: 'He Defines Success Differently Than I Would'

First Posted: 10/06/10 12:24 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:55 PM ET

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Former Senator Mel Martinez offered an unusually blunt assessment of the role that Sen. Jim DeMint is playing within Republican circles, going so far as to question the South Carolina Republican's definition of success for the party.

At an election-themed breakfast organized by the prominent lobbying shop DLA Piper, Martinez said he disagrees with DeMint's strategy of pushing for the most ideologically pure candidate in Republican primaries. The result, the former RNC Chairman said, is that the party is ending up with candidates who can't win and a party that in all likelihood can't govern.

"I think Jim DeMint is a fine gentleman," Martinez said. "As every American has a right, he has created a fund and helped people in races and he has taken a contrarian's view that this year has had successes. I would not have guessed it but it has... the traditional Republican candidate, like I guess in Delaware, Mike Castle in Delaware, would be the best example; perhaps in Kentucky [as well]."

Ceding that Christine O'Donnell, the candidate who knocked off Castle, would lose the election, Martinez added, "I believe in winning myself, but, you know, I'm just saying."

"[DeMint] got his candidate nominated so he was successful. But he defines success differently than I would. I would say success is how many R's we put into the Republican side of the ledger. He views that it is better to lose and have people that actually stand up 100 percent in line with his point of view."

Speaking at a safe remove from elected office, Martinez's remarks reflect what Republican campaign operatives tend to say in private: DeMint's advocacy for ideological purity has put the party in a more precarious position. O'Donnell's victory in Delaware was the most obvious example. But in seven other races, the establishment-favored Senate nominee ended up losing the election, in part, because of Tea Party rejection. Some of those nominees will win office. But others find themselves in tough races or with the real prospect of losing.

Amidst the drama, DeMint has seen his influence within GOP circles rise to uncommon heights for a first-term member (he's up for reelection this year). And on Wednesday, Martinez predicted that the South Carolina Republican would turn that support into a formal leadership position in the next Congress -- though he stressed that current Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) would keep his post.

"Obviously DeMint will have some people who will be coming into the Senate whom he has been very forcefully in support of," he said. "And that will give him greater standing. It will be interesting to see in leadership elections whether he rises to a leadership spot... I think Mitch McConnell will be the leader but I just wonder if [DeMint] will have some leadership role."

The problem with DeMint's ascendancy, Martinez offered in the end, was not that Republicans would end up with fewer senators than they could have elected. "I think it may be a blessing in disguise if we don't win control in the Senate," said Martinez. "I think that will help because it will still have a Democrat agenda. I think Republicans ought to be modest in victory and that will be much better for 2012." Rather, the problem is that with the purging of compromisers, the process of governing will come to complete rather than partial gridlock.

"The likely suspects that a Democrat would have gone to in recent years would have been people like [Utah Sen.] Bob Bennett, [Alaska Sen.] Lisa Murkowski, Mel Martinez, perhaps a [Missouri Sen.] Kit Bond on certain issues, a [Ohio Sen.] George Voinovich," said Martinez. "Essentially none of those names will be in the Senate this coming session. They will be replaced with people who are more inclined to be associated with and helped by Jim DeMint, who has not often been spoken in the same breathe as a compromiser. So it will be a more difficult session."

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Former Senator Mel Martinez offered an unusually blunt assessment of the role that Sen. Jim DeMint is playing within Republican circles, going so far as to question the South Carolina Republican's def...
Former Senator Mel Martinez offered an unusually blunt assessment of the role that Sen. Jim DeMint is playing within Republican circles, going so far as to question the South Carolina Republican's def...
 
 
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Chris Rautmann
08:14 PM on 10/07/2010
Welcome to the land of extremism.
First, create an Enemy. A person or group that can be scapegoated into being the cause of all the problems in the world.
Second, demonize the Enemy. Since they are the cause of all the problems, they must (obviously) be Evil. Their causing the Problems is due to Malice.
Third, claim the Right. Claim that God is on OUR side. And who would dare stand against us, if God is on OUR side?
Fourth, make sure that anybody who is even vaguely associated with the Enemy is aiding and abetting Evil. Therefore, any thought of compromise with the Enemy is against God, and is Evil.

The result?
First will be purging of the Enemy.
Then will come the purging of anyone who is ideologically impure.
Third, the Movement will either splinter under different leaders with different versions of Purity, or it will be taken over by one leader and all dissent will be purged.

It's happened often in the past. It's a shame it is happening in America, again.
01:15 PM on 10/07/2010
What Mel Martinez really thinks.

"I think Jim DeMint is a back stabbing dixiecrat ideologue making a power play.," Martinez said. "As every American has a right, he has created a fund and helped people in races and he has taken a contrarian's view that this year has had successes. I would not have guessed it but it has... the traditional Republican candidate, like I guess in Delaware, Mike Castle in Delaware, would be the best example; perhaps in Kentucky [as well]."
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01:13 PM on 10/07/2010
It's amazing how many Republican Senators and Congressmen "find religion" and speak the truth after they leave office.

It's as if they are making amends or doing penance.
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jeremyfive
01:00 PM on 10/07/2010
GOP stars like Demint are always looking out for the next group of people they can hate.

Doesn't hurt to pick up a few political points from a racist, sexist, homophobic fan base in the process, huh?
12:37 PM on 10/07/2010
Jim DeMint fits right in as a ultraconservative Republican who wants to thrust his personal ideaology on everyone in this country. As a "Creationist" he believes that our world we know it was formed in one day 6000 years ago. You do not have to believe in the evolution of our species, but you have to recognize that our world is older than 6000 years as well as most 2nd graders in China and India which is more important to consider.
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gumbo1049
polytechnician
12:35 PM on 10/07/2010
Why do all republicans look so goofey. I can spot them always.
01:20 PM on 10/07/2010
it's the glazed over look and the phony looking Grecian Formula hair.
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murphysgirl
I prefer coffee, not tea..
12:01 PM on 10/07/2010
DeMint is a Ronald Reagan wannabe who lives for the spotlight and plays into the worst of who Americans can be..I'm not going to say he's pure evil, but he's pretty close..
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pasc
Willfully Ignorant: The New Normal.
04:16 PM on 10/07/2010
We need to stop overusing the word "evil." It will lose its meaning soon. DeMint isn't "evil." He's just suffers from the Southern Stupid.
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montn2
The poor man's son fights the rich man's war.
11:41 AM on 10/07/2010
Demint is disgusting, period. Having said that, he is also drunk with power at the moment. Watching his downfall will be interesting.
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dax49
11:30 AM on 10/07/2010
If any of them had any integrity, they wouldn't be at a breakfast paid for by LOBBYISTS
09:39 AM on 10/07/2010
Rats always are the first to run off a sinking ship.
07:54 AM on 10/07/2010
I say bring the crazies out. It will only alienate the rest of America, the party of old white men who are fast becoming a minority in society instead of a majority. Midterms are always low turnout which is better for Republicans, that's why they try to suppress the minority and women vote like in 2004. Presidential elections are higher turnout and better for Dems. With crazies like these in office, it will only help Obama and the left in 2012.
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gumbo1049
polytechnician
07:36 AM on 10/07/2010
Pope DeMint 1:0069
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08:47 AM on 10/07/2010
I was thinking King
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ennis438
07:16 AM on 10/07/2010
I welcome DeMint. The more insane nuts he gets to run, the better for the Democratic party and for average Americans. So, come on Jim Crow.
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MTinMO
Finding truth & balance
05:31 AM on 10/07/2010
DeMinted is the perfect example of why we need to elect more Democrats in November. The Republicans have been obstructing the business of the people since January 20, 2009. Governance is not supposed to be a complete my way or the highway, it should be both parties working together to build common ground and pathways to get the work done. The obstructionists care about power and not the people. They have held the people hostage. It is time to put an end to their reign of terror against the people who are hurting in this country now. If the Republicans worked with the Democrats and the administration I believe the economy would be stronger and rebuilding much faster. The president has held out his hand to them time after time. Instead of taking his hand- they spit on him and us- the people who need this country to work again. Do away with this obstructionism. Vote Democrat in November.
09:07 AM on 10/07/2010
Not really if you look at the internals. On the big picture yes the President has been welcoming. But he keeps doing things it make compromise harder for Republicans. For example not granting Collins her amendment to DADT or not granting Snowe her accounting changes.
wendy scott
never believe generalizations
05:59 PM on 10/07/2010
That had nothing to do with The President. The Senate is responsible.And all of that was just an excuse for Snowe and Collins to not vote AND therefore eliminate any possibility for the Democrats and President Obama to run on it. What have the Republicans done to "compromise?" That defense bill was the first one out of 48 defense bills that have always passed. Decades and decades of Defense Bills and one voted down.
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MTinMO
Finding truth & balance
07:49 PM on 10/07/2010
Yes- look at the internals. Senator Baucus and other democrats on the committee compromised and compromised to give the republicans what they said they had to have for the Health Care Reform bill. They worked for weeks and when the vote came the repubs refused to vote for what they helped to create. They have done the same thing over and over again. They are the ones that publicly stated they would not work with the administration on anything because they want this to be Obama's "Waterloo". Does that sound like a party who is willing to work for the good of this country? I mean really? You cannot possibly believe they are obstructionists for the good of the people? Do they care about the hurting, homeless and jobless? No. They have demonstrated they don't time after time after time. The only ones they care about are themselves and the rich- not the rest of us. I wish we could force them to live like many of our citizens are right now. A Congressional version of "Survivor".
wendy scott
never believe generalizations
11:04 AM on 10/07/2010
I could not imagine someone saying that better. Amazing Thank You for your passion. I feel the same and it keeps me up at night. The problems are so big. Bush did nothing and now they want to defund or roll back any strides President Obama has made. Just so he fails but if he fails we all fail. We don't have two years. Too many people business' families towns cities and states are on the edge. We hit that tipping point and we will be scre wed.I call and email my Senators and Rep and White House and CNN and many other lawmakers. It's what drove me here. My anxiety was getting to the point of meds. Blogging and sharing info and ideas has helped alot. Anyway I'm a fan fan fan
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pasc
Willfully Ignorant: The New Normal.
04:24 PM on 10/07/2010
I feel that way, too, sometimes. It's gotten so crazy that it seems almost hopeless. It is just NUTS that people aren't paying attention or are ignoring what the GOP has done in the Senate. It just infuriates me that they claim the government doesn't work and then none of their supporters ever notice that it is THEY who intentionally cause it to not work. I am, in fact, more disgusted with the people who ignore what is going on that those who do the goings on.

Do you realize that if health care and all the other stuff the Obama administration have passed are going to "destroy America," as the right wants its empty-headed followers to believe, that means that this "great" country, as they call it, is so great that it would elect not just a President, but dozens of other elected officials who have been waiting for decades to go in cahoots with each other and the first black president IN ORDER TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY? That is the ultimate conclusion of the right's reasoning: Obama, everybody who voted for him, Democrats in Congress and everybody who voted for them ALL want to destroy the county (and, meanwhile) leave the resulting mess to their own children.

Insanity.
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Brent in VA
03:18 AM on 10/07/2010
Give them heck, Mel.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
04:23 AM on 10/07/2010
The American people are fed up with RINOs, Republicans In Name Only, like Castle. We need to offer voters a real choice. Remember Senator Barry Goldwater, his slogan was "A choice not an echo!" He also said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
09:33 AM on 10/07/2010
Goldwater opposed everything these extremists favor. He was pro- gay rights and opposed DADT; he would see the attempts to demonize muslims and blacks for the racist lies they are. Goldwater would have NOTHING to do with these phony conservatives, he would be banned from Fox Lies.
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10:07 AM on 10/07/2010
Anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex is fed up with Republicans of EVERY stripe. They WRECKED this country - start there...