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French Pass Law To Strip Foreign-Born Criminals Of Nationality

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 10/12/10 04:33 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:00 PM ET

Nicolas Sarkozy

French lawmakers passed a controversial new bill that will strip criminals born in other countries of their French nationality if convicted of carrying out a violent crime against police officers.

According to RPI, members of France's lower house of parliament, the National Assembly, voted 294 to 239 to pass the measure. Proposed by Immigration Minister Eric Besson -- who reportedly wants his ministry to be "a machine to produce good French citizens" -- the measure will also allow European Union nationals to be expelled from France for repeated acts of theft, aggressive begging and illegally occupying land.

"This is a big first step in the building of a European immigration policy," Besson said.

The law is part of President Nicolas Sarkozy's conservative law and order crackdown, which critics say stigmatizes immigrants -- members of France's Roma "Gypsy" community -- as second-class citizens, according to the Associated Press.

In recent months, Sarkozy has come under repeated fire from UN officials and other humanitarian experts for deporting hundreds of Roma families residing in France to nations in Eastern Europe, including Romania and Bulgaria.

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French lawmakers passed a controversial new bill that will strip criminals born in other countries of their French nationality if convicted of carrying out a violent crime against police officers. A...
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edejan
07:35 PM on 10/21/2010
Good. France should be able to manage its criminals as it sees fit. We should do the same here.
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Marc Thibault
entrepreneur, explorer, change maker
07:00 PM on 10/21/2010
Always said Sarko is a little Bush ...
02:45 PM on 10/20/2010
Xenophobic little froggies! There's not one of them that hasn't got some Italian (Roman), English, German (especially German), Hunnish, American, or dozens of other notional genes floating around in their "Gallic Soul" These nasty folks have been overrun more times than a possum on Rt. 66.
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MiraMcB
An eternally optimistic skeptic.
10:08 PM on 10/19/2010
Good for France!
11:44 AM on 10/19/2010
Brilliant. We should follow suit.
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InfinteShibumi
Just breathe...
01:02 PM on 10/19/2010
Yep.
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MiraMcB
An eternally optimistic skeptic.
10:08 PM on 10/19/2010
We do. We've expelled numbers of Italian American Mafia figures and repatriated them back to Italy, as one example.
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PoliticalRockChick
Hatred for bible & hypocrites
10:23 AM on 10/19/2010
Does that include French born Criminals? Oh I forgot French are not fighters, they are lovers. (sarcastic)
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edejan
07:36 PM on 10/21/2010
No, it doesn't (not sarcastic).
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Godiswhatyoubelievein
06:36 AM on 10/19/2010
there is no first class criminal and second class criminal
people who seek and gain citizenship are either came from poor country, under dictatorship or war

you can't make war or supply dictators weapons and means and manipulate other countries fortune when it serves your political agenda then invade them or leave them to struggle with embargo.

upon UN thy obliged European countries to take certain numbers of these conflicted countries 'srefugee who by low later given political asylum or human asylum .

and few others will come as work permit
as we are studying the European case, i understand them
but to control tis madness
1-stop UN law of refugee (stop wars and dictatorship)an dry countries fortunes ) or simply live with it
2- stop giving citizenship and keep them as refugee till further their countries getting better unless the refugee is cable of managing his life by working and emerge through community then grant him work permit equivalent in rights as any other but not giving him citizenship so later on you try abuse him with.

simply stop citizenship but go with residencey permit which will be much more realistic to both sides of this story .

because it starts to screams discrimination and abusing humanity in countries of freedoms and its dam disgusting .

realty math support "to be euqal not nesseraly to be equevelnat "

wros senario , i'd prefr to live the mass of injustice rather than selictive justic
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Godiswhatyoubelievein
07:03 AM on 10/19/2010
i mean by citizenship to hold their respective country passport and nationality
11:45 AM on 10/19/2010
Puhleeze, people change citizenship for opportunity, marriage, taxes, etc.

You left out quite a lot.
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angrymanspokane
Just a regular guy
05:03 PM on 10/18/2010
Makes sense. Citizenship should require adherance to the law of the land. If you come to another country to live, there are some fundamantal rules that should apply:

1. Learn the language, fast. Teach your children the language. It's fundamantal courtesy to be able to speak the language of your new country.
2. Don't break the law! This should go without saying.
3. Don't try to change your new home into your old home. if you miss your old home so much - go back.
4. Lear the traditions and customs of your new land and follow them. Don't get offended when the people in your new country don't understand your ways.
5. Quite simple, if you don't like it, or you don't want to conform - leave.
05:44 PM on 10/18/2010
Ah yup.
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Schweik
09:38 PM on 10/18/2010
Fanned.
Politically incorrect and lacking in the post-modern lingo so beloved of the quasi educated.
Thus refreshing and to the point.

This is what made American pragmatism so successful in absorbing millions of immigrants.

Thank you.
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Blackorpheus
the decisive blows are always struck left-handed
11:25 AM on 10/18/2010
Let's--collectively--pass a law against Sarkozy.
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Schweik
09:41 PM on 10/18/2010
Another revolutionary dork. Save your blather for your community college class.
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Blackorpheus
the decisive blows are always struck left-handed
11:52 AM on 10/19/2010
There's a distinction between what you write and courteous dispute. Learn to be courteous, Schweik.
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Lawrence Kurnarsky
Wriiter, film director, teacher.
01:56 PM on 10/17/2010
Now, what are the chances that this law will be used against anti-racist and pro-worker demonstrators who are in clashes with the police? What are the chances of this law expanding from applying to just foreign born citizens being convicted of violence only against police? What about corporate big-shots? What about - what they already call - "violence against private property"?

What effect will this law have to undermine the already questionable French judicial system and nudging their courts towards being direct instruments of right-wing politics? What are the chances of this further moving the land of fraternity, equality, and liberty towards a racist police state?

Is this a consequence of a French Ruling class having an agenda to reduce the living standard of the vast majority of French Citizens when, a huge proportion of whom - unlike their brothers and sisters in the USA - have a propensity to push back? I think so.

A police state is a fall-back position when the citizens of a so-called democratic country refuse to accept the decimation of their lives in service to the interests of its ruling elite; and will not submit to having their life-affirming energy redirected towards death-affirming racial nationalism and patriotic warmongering.

Again we have an example of how Capitalism's ruling elite are willing to resort to anything to maintain their power and wealth. Anything. - As if we need a reminder.

"Never again." I think that may be a little optimistic. .
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jules23
01:09 PM on 10/17/2010
I think I could accept the violent crime aspect of the bill. However, going after those illegally occupying land, is basically a way of going after squatters, who aren't necessarily dangerous criminals. That seems pretty extreme to me.
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07:19 AM on 10/18/2010
squatters are nothing more than thieves....
03:11 PM on 10/18/2010
Thanks, God.
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zootalors
roota, voota, zoot!
01:06 PM on 10/20/2010
landlords are nothing more than thieves....
09:28 AM on 10/17/2010
That's why the French are good at cooking, they know what ingredients to keep out of the pan. Meanwhile the US is a melting pot, and that includes throwing in the criminals. Sometimes a stew tastes better than gourmet.
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Schweik
09:42 PM on 10/18/2010
U.S. is no longer a melting pot. More like a tossed salad, due to the creeping multi-culturalisation.
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FACTISFACT
A war veteran. Finally retired
06:34 AM on 10/17/2010
French Public should appreciate the law because it is good law. In addition at the same time should not forget that homegrown top criminals not only destroy the society but the nation also. These white color criminals, are in every Profession first weed them out.
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ezeques
06:00 AM on 10/17/2010
Finally some sanity in the world.
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pinkpantheroz
Keeping the B***** honest
02:53 AM on 10/17/2010
Strange sort of Policy, IMO. Not many people may be aware that what used to be called the French Foreign Legion was comprised of soldiers from other countries, who, if they finished their stint and survived, thay would be granted French citizenship and Identities. An awful lot of them were criminals escaping other countries' Justice. Hmmmmm.
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edejan
07:41 PM on 10/21/2010
But if they committed no crimes in France once they were citizens, their past crimes were moot.
overcat
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
04:49 PM on 11/02/2010
The Legion still exists.