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Pelosi To Progressives, Pundits: Don't Blame Us For Senate's Shortcomings

First Posted: 10/13/10 06:28 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:00 PM ET

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday urged progressives and pundits alike not punish House Democrats in the 2010 elections for the lethargy and shortcomings of the Senate.

In a conference call with online reporters and bloggers, Pelosi made the case that had her chamber been given full control over the legislative process, both the party and country would be in a better place. But the Senate is a co-equal branch, and its procedural rules have forced either moderation or complete non-consideration of important reforms. The end product is, natutrally, frustration among Democratic voters and progressive-leaning thinkers. But as the party has been urged by economists like the New York Times' Paul Krugman to do more on the job creation front, the Speaker stressed the need to draw distinctions.

"I appreciate what Paul Krugman says," said Pelosi. "It would be helpful though if some of those people who are saying these things [noted] that the House did more. Remember, we did more. We passed jobs bill after jobs bill after jobs bill that were not picked up in the Senate because of the need for the 60th vote... we know what we need to do and that's what binds our caucus."

Pelosi has never been good at hiding her disdain for the Senate's pace. During the height of health care reform, her frustration would boil over in meetings after House members were repeatedly asked to compromise funds or provisions in order to secure individual Senate votes. In July, she blamed the upper chamber for failing to move fast enough on a series of bills that would have been economically stimulative -- a failure that, in turn, made Democrats seem incapable of creating jobs.

On Wednesday, Pelosi repeated the mantra, only this time putting a numerical figure on how many jobs she thought the Senate's penchant of slow-paced negotiation had cost the country.

"We passed a bigger recovery package than passed in the Senate," Pelosi said. "We had the votes, we passed it in the House and it got cut in the Senate. We knew that we needed more and I think that probably could have accounted for a half a million jobs, at least the difference between the two bills. If there was any thought that a bigger bill could have passed in the Senate we could have passed a bigger bill in the House."

And for good measure, she took a swipe at the Senate for punting on climate change legislation, which the House passed a year and a half ago. "The glaciers are melting faster than the Senate seems to be able to act," she said.

There is an inherent concern among operatives that Pelosi is right: House Democrats will take the brunt of voter anger for the shortcomings of the current Congress. That, simply, is a product of the electoral system, in which every House member is forced to run every two years while approximately a third of the Senate is in campaign mode.

This, indeed, seems to be affecting the Speaker's mindset heading in to the 2010 elections. But while her pox-on-their-house posture gave off the appearance that she has lumped all senators, regardless of ideology, into the same bag, that's not entirely true. Her displeasure is predominantly for the Republicans in the chamber who have institutionalized the filibuster to halt the legislative process. And when making the pitch to the primarily progressive audience, she argued that a Congress populated with stymied Democrats was better than a Congress populated with a majority Republicans.

"If people are unhappy about the progress being made wait till you see what happens if the Republicans were ever to gain power," said Pelosi. "It is a choice; it is choice. We all haven't gotten everything we wanted but everything we got on these issues came form the Democrats. And again, we don't intend to lose it but we don't expect that people will stay home because they didn't get everything they wanted when they are going to get nothing that they want if Republicans were to win."

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday urged progressives and pundits alike not punish House Democrats in the 2010 elections for the lethargy and shortcomings of the Senate. In a conference call wi...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday urged progressives and pundits alike not punish House Democrats in the 2010 elections for the lethargy and shortcomings of the Senate. In a conference call wi...
 
 
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olerealist
retired trial attorney; former member of VA abd Wa
03:43 PM on 11/10/2010
A Post Script to my comment. re N. Pelosi and Senate filibusters. GETTING EGG OFF FACE.
I commented that the US Constution may be to blame for the practice of filibustering in the US
SENATE. WRONG it is the Senate itself whicy is empowered by Sect. 5 of the Constitution to set its own rules.

:"Section 5 .
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member."

So its the Senators themselves (not our forefathrs) who bear the blaim for initiating and perpetuating this crazy "Rule" which requires 60 votes to invoke "cloture" (stopping a filibuster)
i.e. 3/5ths of the current members of Senate. Now the problem is even worse in respect to Amending the Rule. I may not recall exactly but I belive Section 5 requires a 2/3 s majority to change the prevailing Rule.
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olerealist
retired trial attorney; former member of VA abd Wa
02:18 PM on 11/10/2010
RE : NANCY PELOSI ARTICLE Sam Stein
EXERPT FROM ARTICLE: " - -. But the Senate is a co-equal branch, and its procedural rules have forced either moderation or complete non-consideration of important reforms" !

. On the one hand, I have an almost religious respect and admiration for how our forefathers wrote the US Constitution. On the other hand I belive those great people made a tremendous mistake when they provided for a SENATE filibuster that could be avoided only by a "super majority" vote of the Senate. In recent months time after time the House, under Pelosi's leadership, passed bills to aleviate UNEMPLOYMENT only to have them buried in the legislative graveyard of the US Senate. Even a modest extension of the unemployment benefits escaped a Republican filibister by the narrowest of margins and only because the public clammer scared the Repub's.
They even suceeded to a degree in putting the face of Nancy Pelosi on that failure. a propaganda maneuver which would make Jos Goebels green with envy. The fact, as I see it, is that the "super majority" rule now prevailing in the Senate will, if not amended, will EVENTUALLY cause the total distruction of the US legislative process and democracy in the bargain. I also believe the the RULE is a laughing stock of knowledgable folks around the entire world.
Finally, it would be a supreme tragety if this brilliant woman should not be made the new House minority leader.
03:08 PM on 10/16/2010
Please stop all the bickering.. nobody can argue we didnt give 'em a chance. We just thought they knew us a bit better.. now they will find out for sure. Unless they give everybody in america 5K before election... just a suggestion in case they read this..
02:06 PM on 10/16/2010
If Pelosi really cared about the Democratic Party, she would resign as Speaker of the House.

She can't bring herself to give up power, so she will be forced to serve as the minority leader.

Oh well ........................
06:04 PM on 10/15/2010
Oh, and I forgot, Obama's socialist "entitlement" agenda is based upon the Cloward-Piven Strategy - google it - developed at the communist nest-egg Columbia University. Obama believes in punishing success and rewarding lethargy. Take heed in the words and philosophy of Ronald Reagan: "Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." "The bigger the Government, the smaller the individual." Government, and even The Messiah, Obama, cannot create jobs - only business can create jobs. Oh, I take it back, Obama can create "Government" jobs; however, apparently Obama doesn't understand the fact that only private sector jobs stimulate the economy. Additionally, Obama has no "real" job experience unless you count working for the corrupt ACORN. Oops, that's right, Obama stated he didn't know much about the maligned ACORN - he must have forgotten that he was legal counsel and and actually trained the ACORN people on how to voter register dead people, cartoon characters, and felons. If ever a Prez needs to be impeached, it is Obama.
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olerealist
retired trial attorney; former member of VA abd Wa
04:04 PM on 11/10/2010
OK G.B. IMPEACHMENT ON WHAT GROUNDS. Well lets try Obama's not being willing to rely upon GOLDMAN SACHS and LEHMAN BROS and AIG, INC. to create those jobs. Maybe those folks could create a financial instrument which could put lots of people jobs building new homes on borrowed money. Hooray for the "FREE MARKET" !! We might also impeach for his putting Gen. Motors and Chrysler back on the road after near death from free market executive hubris. Maybe about a million jobs are at least tanagentally connected to those AMERICAN
companies.
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leftLibertarian
Don't vote for Obama or Romney
10:05 PM on 10/14/2010
Pelosi is a fraud.
She put impeachment off the table for the criminal Bush and pushed for the bailout of poorly run criminal organizations on Wall Street.
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lizr
goofing off here
01:15 AM on 10/15/2010
She has been extremely effective - which is why the Repugs cannot abide her.
05:43 PM on 10/15/2010
Huffpost, you share the sub 80 I.Q. of Pelosi and Reid.
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olerealist
retired trial attorney; former member of VA abd Wa
02:37 PM on 11/10/2010
I have not problem with your charactorization of "W". Maybe some of the W. Street financial firms are indeed "criminal". However, the fed gov. and the legislative reforms, while not getting many into jail put dozens of those executives out of a job and sometimes the same with their B of Directors.
The stock of many of those firms was crushed. The so called bailouts were really a loan and I have confidence that most of the US money will be repaid as the firms regain their profitability. I still hold out hope that some of the worst actors will be jailed. Anyway we avoided disaster.
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05:13 PM on 10/14/2010
Alas, the only color of global corporations is the color of money. I wouldn't count on anybody in government to buck the bucks.
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tea-party-2010
Obama 2012: A REDO we can believe in!!
03:28 PM on 10/14/2010
Madam Speaker, your party will be punished because America did not vote for far left policies only to prolong this recession. Yes, the GOP did very little to prevent this recession but they paid the price for that. You told us in 2006 that this will be a new era. I'm sorry but those words turned out to be empty and untrue.
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dizmo4
03:47 PM on 10/14/2010
How did far left policies prolong the recession?
and what specific policies are you referring to?
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willysworldrocks
04:54 PM on 10/14/2010
The lack of jobs or leadership means we still suffer for longer periods. Tell me what the stimulus did for anyone other than the unions. Pure pork and wasted. Oh yeah, "we saved jobs" Barney franks running interference for frannnie and freddie while they sink. When it all falls apart nancy,barney,reid,barry and the rest of the career pols should be in jail for their ignorance. They all take the blame for tarp!!!
They haven't fixed anything!!!


It's not over yet!!!

The revolution is coming!!!
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tea-party-2010
Obama 2012: A REDO we can believe in!!
07:55 PM on 10/14/2010
Businesses are not hiring because of the uncertainty that is espousing from the WH and congress. The massive tax hikes in the HC bill alone will do enough damage. The stimulus bill that went no where. All the numerous jobs bills that went no where. All the unemployment benefit extensions that go no where. Where does it stop? You cannot tax & spend a nation into prosperity. It just isn't going to happen.

I have a question for you. If you lose your job, what do you do to make ends meet?

A. Do you go job hunting while stopping all luxury spending?
B. Do you start taking out credit cards to pay for everything hoping that a job will turn up?

Liberals chose option B.
05:49 PM on 10/15/2010
Don't hurry to blame the economic woes on the Republicans. The Dems took over the Senate in 2006. Maobama more than tripled the debt left by Bush and the Democratic Senate. AND, there is nothing to show for all the bailout money except for debt for generations to come and payoffs to special interest groups like ACORN. Maobama is a Marxist socialist who demonizes business and the free/private enterprise system. Those who voted for the "empty suit" should hang their heads in shame and apologize to the rest of us.
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vulpecula762mm
03:20 PM on 10/14/2010
You will be punished at the polls because you lack balls and the blood lust required to end baggery
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
03:21 PM on 10/14/2010
Agreed.
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vulpecula762mm
03:24 PM on 10/14/2010
Say Tan?

Holy Magus of all that is dark? "-)
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
03:27 PM on 10/14/2010
lol ... my agreement FLAGGED as abusive..... too funny.
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dre7861
Hovering below the fray!
03:10 PM on 10/14/2010
I agree with Speaker Pelosi, who I think of the three Democratic leaders [Obama, Reid and Pelosi] that she did the best job of pushing through legislation. If anyone should keep their title it is Pelosi but in cruel irony it looks like only she will lose it.

I hope if the Democrats retain the Senate that Reid has a serious challenge to be Majority Leader from Durbin or Schumer. The man has the spine and moral courage of a piece of cooked spaghetti.
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04:25 PM on 10/14/2010
You're wrong, Pelosi was the most inept and ineffective of all three. She barely got enough Democrats to get her bills passed and that was only because House rules give her that advantage over Harry Reid. There are 257 Democrats in the House and Pelosi was able to get usually around 220, basically passing bills by 1 or 2 votes. She completely ignored the reality of a more conservative Senate and wasted time and energy passing more than 400 bills that will never become law. I call that stupid.
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dre7861
Hovering below the fray!
07:04 PM on 10/14/2010
I respectfully disagree. Pelosi was able to push a somewhat progressive agenda through and to do so fairly quickly. What the House passes is often more liberal or conservative than what the Senate contemplates. The closeness of the vote doesn't matter as long as it passes.

Pelosi allowed members from more conservative districts to vote "no" to give them political cover. That to me is a smart politician. Unlikely spineless Harry Reid who allows everyone to walk all over him.

Considering the fact that the Senate usually writes their own bills and the two bill have to be resolved through conference then you will want the House Bill to be more progressive or else your bargining like President Obama - "Before we even start, let me give away all this." we've seen just hopw well that has worked for Obama!

You complain about the number of bills the House passes. But as President Obama highlighted in his State of the Union speech it is the slowness and dysfunctionalness of the Senate. I don't think it's fair to blame someone for somebody else's problems. The Senate needs to update its rules. In a modern society we can make hundreds of decisions a day while the Senate clings to 19th century rules where they make 100 decisions and a decade. The country's needs can't survive that kind of legislative crawl.
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VPN
Turning R W Bullies Into Crybabies since the 1960'
07:16 PM on 10/14/2010
Thats just nonsense, why is it that YOU R W clowns can't post anything without including a few LIES?
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
03:08 PM on 10/14/2010
If Democrats had forced the old fashioned method of filibustering on the floor, in front of cameras, every time a Republican clown barked NO, they would be SAILING through this election.

But Nancy, you didn't. You didn't fight. You allowed a small knot of backward southern neanderthals to run the country be default. Voters see that, and remember it.
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Appleblossom
04:28 PM on 10/14/2010
When was Speaker Pelosi elected to the Senate again? I must have missed it.
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lizr
goofing off here
12:33 PM on 10/15/2010
Um- I think you are talking about lily livered harry reid.

I hope Sharon Angle wins and we get another Dem w some b*lls as Senate leader - like FRANKEN
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TeaLady005
02:46 PM on 10/14/2010
Looks like Pelosi is being thrown under the Democratic bus from what we are seeing in the TV ads run by Demo candidates? And other candidates are bragging about their vote AGAINST Obamacare!

In 19 more days we are going to fire as many of these corrupt politicians as we can!
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dizmo4
03:29 PM on 10/14/2010
And replace them with tea party candidates that got into office by using FOREIGN money that will be beholden to the Chamber of Commerce that is committed to shipping as many jobs overseas as possible.
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willysworldrocks
04:53 PM on 10/14/2010
Take off the blinders and don't believe everything your talking heads say.
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Ryan Magdangal
Pirate Satellite
02:06 PM on 10/14/2010
420 bills are awaiting the Senate's attention. She's done a great job and will be noted in the history books. She may not be telegenic or come across strong on TV but not everyone does. She getting things done!
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04:29 PM on 10/14/2010
420 bills that will never become law. What's the point? I see it more like a waste of time, resources and energy. She could've been more effective by actually sending Harry Reid bills that he could move forward. Both Reid and Pelosi faced the same problem, a unified Republican opposition and a big chunk of the Democrats caucus from conservative districts and conservative states voting with the GOP, the only difference was the advantage that Pelosi had with the House simple majority rule.
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Turning R W Bullies Into Crybabies since the 1960'
07:21 PM on 10/14/2010
Where do you R W clowns get the idea that every Bill has to fit your a$$backward way of thinking to get passed or to be acceptable to the electorate. I have a news flash for you the majority of Americans DO NOT support your R W phony agenda.
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Salukeitis
01:55 PM on 10/14/2010
Yaknow I think (and I'm going to take some pounding) Nancy Pelosi would be a fantastic candidate for POTUS in 2012. Maybe a Pelosi/Hillary ticket. Or visa versa.
Ms Pelosi was the CONSTANT in a sea of differences or unknowns. I knew where she stands and she never wavered.
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chevy706
Fighting Liberals' Attack on Liberty.
01:57 PM on 10/14/2010
That would be an express one-way ticket down the crapper. Not a trip I want to take.
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inthelandoftheblind
Obama wants a strong Middle Class
08:46 PM on 10/14/2010
Thx for a good laugh! F&F...
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inthelandoftheblind
Obama wants a strong Middle Class
08:47 PM on 10/14/2010
...still laughing!
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mackbolan
Libertas inaestimabilis res est
03:04 PM on 10/14/2010
if alan grayson and rachael maddow run in 2012 would you abandon obama for a true progressive ticket...
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Salukeitis
03:45 PM on 10/14/2010
You're being sarcastic. It's not a matter of abandoning O. I know he's infinitely better than the Rethugs. The question is post election "How are we going to get a Progressive agenda up and running?' O has abandoned the Progressv agenda i don't want to start listing reasons why (again).
I'm not sure you have a point here. I think O WILL be challenged by the left (Do they have the Spine?) in the 2012 election. Hillary can be very leftist-example the Health Care Single Payer she tried to get through. I'm serious about Pelosi. Get past her making faces. She is a very smartpolitician. And her husband is super wealthy.
Perhaps Howard Dean might want to dip his toe in 2012.
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smitty101
Tell Vlad I can be more flexible after the electio
04:13 PM on 10/14/2010
Grayson would get fewer votes than Walter Mondale did. He would tell people that his opponent is Tali.ban.
01:52 PM on 10/14/2010
I hope I live long enough to relieve myself on her burial plot.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
02:22 PM on 10/14/2010
2 names for you to consider. Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert. Republican stars and no longer in business, both leaving under disgrace. I actually can't wait until the Rethugs take over the house. That act will tire very quickly.
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smitty101
Tell Vlad I can be more flexible after the electio
04:12 PM on 10/14/2010
You and me both. See, we think alike on some things. There is arrom under the big tent for all.