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Live Interviewer Polls Boost Murray In Washington

First Posted: 10/14/10 11:11 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:00 PM ET

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Another busy 24 hours of poll releases provides new confirmation that the Senate contests in Nevada and West Virginia remain very close, while a new CNN/Time survey in Washington confirms that Democratic Senator Patty Murray continues to do significantly better on surveys that use live interviewers than those that ask questions with an automated, recorded message. Two new Delaware polls confirm that Democrat Chris Coons is crushing "Saturday Night Live" favorite Christine O'Donnell, while two new Democratic polls show a potential tightening of the Sestak-Toomey race in Pennsylvania that's at odds with the independent public polls.

And a Pew Research Center report throws a monkey wrench into our polling obsession with a new report suggesting that virtually all of these polls may err in the Republican direction by excluding Americans who cannot be reached on landline phones.

To win an absolute majority in the Senate, Republicans need to pick up 10 seats. Based on current polling, their best hope for that 10th seat is in Washington, where Democratic Senator Patty Murray is battling Republican challenger Dino Rossi. Whether those hopes are real or illusory may depend in part on what mode of polling you trust most.

Yesterday, CNN and Time released a new live-interviewer survey that shows Democratic Senator Patty Murray leading Republican challenger Dino Rossi by eight percentage points (51% to 43%). On Tuesday, a new live-interviewer Elway poll gave Murray an even bigger lead (55% to 40%).

These two new polls confirm a continuing pattern in this race: The live-interviewer pollsters, CNN/Time and Elway show Murray doing consistently better than the automated polls from Rasmussen Reports, Fox News and Rasmussen subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research and SurveyUSA. This week, for example, two new Rasmussen and Fox/Pulse polls showed a very different result, Rossi leading Murray by 3 and 1-point margins respectively.

Our standard trend estimate for Washington now gives Murray a slightly better than three-point lead (48.9% to 45.7%), still qualifying for toss-up status, but just barely. Which pollster is closer to the truth? Though the differences may converge over the next two weeks, we will likely not know for certain until all the votes are counted.

The mode of survey alone does not differentiate as much in West Virginia, where another CNN/Time poll confirms a very close race between Democrat Joe Manchin and Republican John Raese. This first West Virginia survey from CNN and Time, which is also the first West Virginia public poll this year to use live interviewers, shows a tie (44% each). An automated poll from the Democratic firm PPP released earlier this week gives Manchin a slight edge (48% to 45%), while last week's automated Rasmussen poll gave Raese a 6-point lead (50% to 44%). Our trend estimate blends all of the polling and shows a toss-up, Manchin at 45.6% and Raese at 44.8%.

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In Nevada, two new polls confirm the continuing deadlock between Democratic Senator Harry Reid and Republican challenger Sharon Angle. The first Nevada poll from Massachusetts' Suffolk University shows Reid with a 3-point edge (46% to 43%), while the latest Rasmussen automated poll puts Angle up by 1 (49% to 48%). Our trend estimate is virtually unchanged from yesterday, continuing to show a virtual tie
-- 46.4% for Reid, 46.2% for Angle.

In Delaware, two new polls confirm that Democrat Chris Coons is crushing Republican Christine O'Donnell. A CNN/Time poll shows Coons leading by 19 points (57% to 38%), and a new University of Delaware/SurveyUSA automated poll shows Coons leading by 21 (54% to 33%). Our trend lines estimate Coons' lead at 19 points (55.5% to 36.4%).

In Pennsylvania, a new Rasmussen automated poll released yesterday shows Republican Pat Toomey leading Democrat Joe Sestak by ten points (49% to 39%), roughly the same margin as measured on previous Rasmussen polls.

That result is sharply at odds with two new Democratic-sponsored surveys released yesterday showing a much closer race. A poll conducted last week by Sestak's pollster David Petts showed Toomey with one-point edge (46% to 45%), while a poll conducted over the weekend on behalf of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) by the firm Garin-Hart-Yang showed Sestak up by 3 (47% to 44%). (Interests disclosed: Until 2006, I was a Democratic pollster and business partner of David Petts).

The Democratic polls contradict not just the new Rasmussen poll but also 20 independent surveys conducted since August showing Toomey leading by margins ranging from 3 to 10 percentage points. It is certainly possible that the new Democratic results represent the sort of statistical bias we often see in publicly released partisan-sponsored polls (discussed at more length here). But as the Philadelphia Inquirer points out, the the launch of new attack ads in Pennsylvania this week by the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee (NRSC), suggests that the DSCC's Republican counterpart "is acting as though numbers are moving in this race."

More data will clarify the Pennsylvania picture, but for now the three new polls narrow our standard trend estimate slightly, to a 6.4-point Toomey advantage (47.6% to 41.2%). With the two partisan polls excluded, Toomey's lead would expand to roughly eight points (48.3% to 40.1%).

Last but not least, a new Pew Research Center report released yesterday finds a potential bias toward Republican candidates in polls that do not call Americans reachable only by cell phone, a potential skew that appears to have grown significantly since 2008.

Pollster reader and Republican consultant David Kanevski asks via Twitter whether we could add a filter to our charts so readers can select only polls that sample both cell and landline phones. Unfortunately, such a filter would exclude most of the statewide polls released to date and, as far as we know, every survey discussed in this article (more details on the handful of statewide pollsters that do interview using both landline and cell phone samples in my review of the Pew Research report).

So is it possible that the totality of polling in the statewide contests is skewed slightly in the Republican direction? Yes, though we will not know for certain until the votes are counted. It is worth keeping in mind, however, that while Pew found a similar though more modest skew in 2008, their post-election analysis found no evidence of any consistent Republican bias in statewide polling in 2008. If anything, polls in 2008 erred more often in the Democrats favor. Still, this potential problem is one we will continue to focus on over the next 20 days.

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Another busy 24 hours of poll releases provides new confirmation that the Senate contests in Nevada and West Virginia remain very close, while a new CNN/Time survey in Washington confirms that Democra...
Another busy 24 hours of poll releases provides new confirmation that the Senate contests in Nevada and West Virginia remain very close, while a new CNN/Time survey in Washington confirms that Democra...
 
 
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
09:43 AM on 10/21/2010
Washington progressive voters support Murray: http://ProgressiveVotersGuide.com
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
01:38 PM on 10/20/2010
Even the conservative Seattle Times endorses Sen. Murray over Rossi. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorials/2013112273_edit10murray.html?prmid=op_ed
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xargaw
01:16 AM on 11/03/2010
Murray has been a really good Senator. Hard worker, straight shooter. Lots of results over the last two decades for this state. She deserves re-election. Rossi is whiny lightweight. His out of state big money ads (Karl Rove's, GPS Crossroads) were insulting to the viewer. He has lost his last two bids for Governor to Christine Gregoire and here's hoping Patty makes it a trifecta.
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
12:58 AM on 10/20/2010
A new Time poll finds that women are more in favor of Democratic Senate candidates. For example, Sen. Murray from WA is head by 31 points among women!
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2025293,00.html

Republicans, including Dino Rossi, are opposed to women's equality and reproductive freedoms.
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10:58 AM on 10/17/2010
A choice between Patty "DOMA" Murray and Dino Rossi is not choice at all. Both are dreadful candidates. Patty is perhaps the dimmest person in the Senate. She's a corporate shill, a princess of pork who is still trying to rationalize her 1996 for the misnamed Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). This year, she claimed it was a vote for states rights. Dino is a failed real estate developer, a two time loser and eeeew, a Republican

My ballot was mailed in without voting for either of these perpetually whining homophobic miscreants.
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
12:43 PM on 10/18/2010
Untrue.

Sen. Murray fought against a REPUBLICAN constitutional amendment that would have enshrined discrimination against gays and lesbians into the constitution. DOMA was a terrible compromise to prevent a terrible constitutional amendment.

Murray kept needed VA hospitals open in Washington. Got transportation money for Washington to, in part, repair extensive earthquake damage to the transportation infrastructure. If you think these things are "pork," you are either very poorly informed, mean-spirited or stupid.

You should have voted for Murray who is thoughtful and caring. Not casting a vote against Rossi was casting a vote FOR HATE!
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08:49 AM on 10/19/2010
You can't rewrite history. You are describing a a different vote for a failed Constitutional Amendment, not whining Patty's 1996 vote for DOMA.

Yes, whining Patty is still defending her 1996 vote for DOMA, now she claims it was a states rights issue.

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/08/27/sen-patty-murray-asks-for-the-liberal-vote-even-though-she-voted-for-doma-also-notes-that-she-is-not-the-tallest-member-of-the-us-senate
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
12:58 PM on 10/18/2010
Now you are just spamming.

Spamming and wrong. Sen. Murray receives a 100% rating from HRC. http://www­.votesmart­.org/issue­_rating_de­tail.php?r­_id=4282&r­type=
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08:33 AM on 10/19/2010
The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) endorsement means pretty much nothing. No group has done less and been more self-serving in its quest for access to power for no apparent purpose.

In 1996, the HRC refused to mount a fight against DOMA.

Love their multi-million dollar corporate headquarters and overpaid staff.
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Tyrione
01:41 AM on 10/15/2010
Unsurprisingly, Patty owned Dino in tonight's debate.
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01202009
07:09 PM on 10/16/2010
I'm working the phones for Patty again starting Monday! Fired up and ready to go!
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11:06 AM on 10/17/2010
Call me, we can talk about Patty's 1996 vote for DOMA, a vote for a law that had only one purpose: denying gay couple equal protection under the law.

This year "Whiney Patty" is rationalizing her vote for DOMA as a vote for states rights. This is even less plausible than her last rationalization for it since DOMA prevents the federal government from recognizing marriages of same sex couples performed in states like Massachusetts and Connecticut that do recognize them.
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mstock57
Go commando
11:19 PM on 10/16/2010
Good to hear. I've been watching the Huskies game instead. If I have to look at Rossi I' might lose my dinner.
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Nancy66
11:35 PM on 10/14/2010
Patty won, hands down. She answered with authority and facts, where Dino continually beats around the bush and puts her down. He couldn't come up with anything, as when asked about DADT, he wouldn't commit, saying, he'll listen to the generals, pentagon, etc. Whereas Patty said flat out it has to go. Obama is coming to Seattle at the University of Washington on Thursday and it's free for the public. Can't wait. Then Michelle is coming on the 25th and just saw where Bill Clinton will be in town on Monday! Go Patty!
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springsm
01:12 AM on 10/15/2010
Right off the bat Rossi called Murray a liar. Ugh he is a sleazy type. He would have been a patsy for bush if he had been the govenor those two times he lost. Now..he would not be part of the solution.
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11:09 AM on 10/17/2010
Ask Whiney Patty about her 1996 vote for DOMA. The dumbbell is now telling everyone it was a vote for state's rights, which is nonsense because DOMA requires the federal government not to recognize the marriages of same sex couples performed in states that have marriage equality.
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03:14 AM on 10/18/2010
Nasty I'll grant you. Is the "Jack" a take off on some Christine O'Donnell fantasy?
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
12:55 PM on 10/18/2010
Sen. Murray is highly rated / endorsed by groups such as HRC. http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=4282&rtype=

Get some perspective.

Not voting is a vote in favor of homophobia!
marilyn 63
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10:55 PM on 10/14/2010
i got my ballot today. and it goes out tomorrow. and like i told one of these rethugs that posted me saying Dino's ahead. i said oh!! hell!! Patty's got this hands down. her TV adds are so good. telling us about Dino's spanking from the feds. for his illegal practices that his bank participated in. and things he said in his own words his adds on her are so weak. because she has done so well. go get um Patty Murrury!!
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
11:07 PM on 10/14/2010
Got mine too, it goes out tomorrow too, can't wait to see Murray gone.
marilyn 63
LEVEL ONE NETWORKER
03:17 AM on 10/15/2010
i would have ignored you. but you answered on my site. i don't no why. i guess trying to be snarky. didn't work, . cause these are Patty Murry people. not the bank failure guy. and the serial runner for office, i wonder who he'll run against next!! when he loses again.
10:28 PM on 10/14/2010
Listening right now to Rossi dodge questions and offer non-solutions re: the issue of health care. Really tired of hearing from/about this tool...
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
10:45 PM on 10/14/2010
Me too, He's about a half mile away from my house at KSPS. You can tell when he's in town by the slime trail he leaves down 29th ave.
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springsm
01:13 AM on 10/15/2010
ohohohohohoh ...nasty and really good.
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03:16 AM on 10/18/2010
The Senator from Concrete (not the town in the Skagit Valley).
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lendiggy
09:22 PM on 10/14/2010
As a new resident to Seattle, I am already annoyed by Dino Rossi and cannot wait to see him cry in defeat on election night.
marilyn 63
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10:59 PM on 10/14/2010
do you remember hearing about him running against Christine Gregoire?? i couldn't believe how close he came. no one had heard of him and this was for Governor. i guess he thought he could take the tennis shoe kid Patty Murray down. get out of the way Dino. Patty's got this!!.
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springsm
01:13 AM on 10/15/2010
He lost to Gregoire twice...do you think if he loses this one, he will stop running.
08:56 PM on 10/14/2010
Sure, the polls may skew toward the GOP...higher than expected numbers because of people polled without a landline.

Even more encouraging for democrats though, is that actual vote results may be skewed in favor of the democrats...because of the higher than expected numbers of people voting without a brain.
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dawnec1957
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08:56 PM on 10/14/2010
In 3 min C-Span is televising the Reid/Angle debate. AND in one hr, the Murry/Rossi debate!
ladyearth
Give birth to your dancing star
08:42 PM on 10/14/2010
Senator Murray was eloquent in her support of our military troops during the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee meeting on September 23, 1010.
marilyn 63
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11:01 PM on 10/14/2010
she is so choice. Dino and his illegal bank practices we dont need.
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springsm
01:16 AM on 10/15/2010
Murray has worked hard for this state and done well nationaly too. She is not an in your face showy person, but she is capable and I think persistent. She saved four VA hospitals in WA State, helped save a hospital in Central WA, opened a VA clinic somewhere else in the state and even tho we don't know who will get that tanker, she at least stopped the original bid from going to airbus. She has kept her nose clean too. I hope she pulls this one into a W.
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11:12 AM on 10/17/2010
Ask Whiney Patty about her 1996 vote for DOMA. The dumbbell is now telling everyone it was a vote for state's rights, which is nonsense because DOMA requires the federal government not to recognize the marriages of same sex couples performed in states that have marriage equality.
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Sisa
08:21 PM on 10/14/2010
Has anybody reading this post right now ever been asked what they think ? Or Polled? I sure haven't.
08:59 PM on 10/14/2010
I get at least 2 day. Usually dems wanting to find out what a minority thinks and letting me know that they will take my issues and fight for me. Hmmmm....they don't know my issues...LOL. The dems gripe about 7 years in a fight in Iraq but have no problem with their 50 years "fighting for me" with nothing to show for it. Don't need 'em...I make my own success. Also get quite a few robocalls, mostly asking if I intend to vote, and what party I'm registered with.
marilyn 63
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11:04 PM on 10/14/2010
no i haven't and this is just what i asked on another post. what progressives or democrats have been polled?? it looks like you had to have a R next to your name.
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Rockwell
Recovering Reagan republican. 26 years sober.
08:18 PM on 10/14/2010
Democrats take heart. We are going to see more and more that polls are BS. The only people I know who still rush to answer their phone are old buzzards of the Tea Bagger age group.

Young people don't have land lines. Middle aged folks like me ignore the phone in the evenings. I have to talk on the danged phone all day at work. I'm not picking that thing up unless I recognize the number (and feel like talking to them).

As someone below said so well, the "Depends Generation" is warping the polls. Don't believe them. We can protect our nation from a takeover by the "I've Got Mine, F**k You" baggers.

The majority of Americans are good and decent people. Let's make time to vote in November and put Beck, Palin, Angle, Paul, O'Donnell and the rest of the crazies back in their padded cells where they belong.
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
10:48 PM on 10/14/2010
Yeah !! #432
08:17 PM on 10/14/2010
I have never met Senator Murray, and likely never will, but I have followed her political career. Few politicians from any country in any era have equalled her work ethic, her integrity, and her sense of public service. Perhaps some northeastern Republicans from the middle of the last century, if one thinks hard enough. Certainly, no one in recent memory. Present day, she stands alone. Losing Murray would be a tremendous loss to Washington state, and to the nation as well.
08:32 PM on 10/14/2010
I am a constituent of Patty Murray's and I agree 100% with what you say.

Few people have the integrity, intellect, tenacity, and honest intent that Patty has, yet can still play hardball.

She's a winner.
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11:13 AM on 10/17/2010
Ask Whiney Patty about her 1996 vote for DOMA. The dumbbell is now telling everyone it was a vote for state's rights, which is nonsense because DOMA requires the federal government not to recognize the marriages of same sex couples performed in states that have marriage equality.
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11:17 AM on 10/17/2010
Intellect what intellect? Patty Muuray has an intellect?

Thanks for my first big laugh of the morning.