More

Bush Tax Cuts May Just Expire After All


First Posted: 10/21/10 06:34 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters, By Kim Dixon) - Republican gains in U.S. elections next month boost the odds of Congress letting Bush-era tax cuts die at year end, a worst case scenario for Wall Street, and the opposite of the party's stated goals.

Prospects had seemed assured for months that the current Democratic-controlled Congress would strike a deal to extend the rates before the end of 2010.

But now, with Republicans looking likely to take control of the House of Representatives and gain substantial influence in the Senate, tax policy watchers say neither side will be in a mood to bargain in the post-election "lame duck" session.

"I don't think Democrats are motivated to extend them and Republicans won't have the political base during a lame-duck to extend them all for as long as they like," said Scott Hodge, president of the right-leaning Tax Foundation.

Polls show Republicans making substantial gains in Congress in the November 2 election -- enough to block President Barack Obama's legislative agenda and perhaps even force his hand on some issues -- on the back of voter angst about the economy and near 10 percent unemployment.

But a tax decision would likely come in the final days of the current session, and before the new Congress begins in January. Democrats will be in the majority in Congress in that period and political gridlock is possible.

A senior Democratic House aide said that a number of Democratic lawmakers have no interest in extending the Bush tax cuts for anyone. "The are Bush's tax breaks and they never liked them in the first place," the aide said.

Wall Street economists have been cautiously watching for months, worried that political deadlock could lead all tax rates to expire, further choking the limp economic recovery.

"Political gridlock in Washington may not necessarily be a good thing," Bank of America economists wrote this week. "Inability for policymakers to compromise on the extension of the Bush-era tax cuts could shock the economy in 1Q 2011."

Tax rates for all individual income groups, including rates on dividends and capital gains, will rise at year-end if Congress fails to act.

President Barack Obama and most Democrats had tried to pass legislation extending low rates for families with income of $250,000 or less.

But a small but vocal minority in their own party backed a rival proposal from Republicans to extend all the tax cuts -- including those for families with income above $250,000.

HOLDING OUT

Republicans say extending lower rates for all taxpayers will boost the economy. But most Democrats say that wealthier Americans are unlikely to spend cash immediately and that the country can simply not afford the cost of the all the cuts.

Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorff has advised that extending the tax cuts would be a short-term boost to the economy, but the increased government borrowing to pay for it, without any other changes in fiscal policy, would weigh heavily.

While the newly elected Congress does not convene until January, Republicans could gain four Senate seats right away due to vacancies that will be filled this year. But that might not be enough to get what many Republicans really want: long-term extension of all the Bush-era lower tax rates.

"Why would you settle for a half a loaf?" an industry lobbyist said of Republicans' potential strategy.

JP Morgan has estimated expiration of all the cuts could cut about 1 percent to 1.25 percent from GDP growth over the course of a year, as personal income falls.

If Congress allows the low tax rates to expire, it would likely just be temporary. Republicans and many Democrats would push to reestablish the tax cuts in some form in 2011.

Much depends on how fast Republicans can consolidate power.

"Obviously the sooner they fix it up the better," said Rudolph Penner, an economist at the left-leaning Urban Institute, who said it could be a "disaster" if they all expire.

Leading up to the election, Obama defended letting tax rates rise for wealthier Americans -- about 3 percent of taxpayers -- saying the country could not afford to keep missing out on $700 billion in revenue.

But will he change his mind with Republicans breathing down his neck?

"The big question is whether talk of 'Obama 2.0' means the president can climb down after his strident pre-election opposition to extending the tax cuts for upper income taxpayers," Capital Alpha analyst Jim Lucier said.

(Additional reporting by Donna Smith and Thomas Ferraro, editing by Jackie Frank)


Copyright 2010 Thomson Reuters. Click for Restrictions.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST BUSINESS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Money newsletter!
WASHINGTON (Reuters, By Kim Dixon) - Republican gains in U.S. elections next month boost the odds of Congress letting Bush-era tax cuts die at year end, a worst case scenario for Wall Street, and th...
WASHINGTON (Reuters, By Kim Dixon) - Republican gains in U.S. elections next month boost the odds of Congress letting Bush-era tax cuts die at year end, a worst case scenario for Wall Street, and th...
Filed by Ryan McCarthy  |  Report Corrections
 
 
  • Comments
  • 356
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (9 total)
  1 of 1  
COMMUNITY PUNDITS
dizmo4 01:08 PM on 10/22/2010
Returning to the Clinton era tax levels is probably necessary to position the country to having a balanced budget and ultimately paying down the national debt.

The second piece is to seriously cut defense. Lawrence O'Donnell had perhaps the best discussion on the budget and deficits I've ever seen last night. He sat down with former Senators Bob Packwood, John Danforth, Gary Hart and Bill  Read More...
12:08 PM on 11/15/2010
Wrong headline! This story is about the coming Obama tax INCREASE, not about expiring tax cuts.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
dhhh
07:14 PM on 11/18/2010
The tax increase is for The wealthy who earn over 250,000 a yr. The tax cuts will go through for the rest of us.
09:39 AM on 11/06/2010
The tax cuts were unaffordable when they were passed and they are still unaffordable and they should expire. The reason the repubs did not make them permanent when they had the chance was that they would destroy the economy. The repubs passed the leglislation, let them live with it. The tax increases were part of the repub bill.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Ortho Stice
Only the Left is in its right mind
01:35 AM on 11/05/2010
Shakespeare had a phrase for this in Hamlet: "The engineer will be hoist with his own petar."

Now that the Blue Dogs have no reason to betray their own party because, you know, they are unemployed, the rest of the Dems have no incentive to agree to any extensions.

Of course, when the extensions lapse and the deficit shrinks precipitously, the GOP will take all the credit.
11:06 PM on 11/02/2010
Let the Bush tax cuts expire and then just give everybody the same increase in personal tax deductions !

Everyone gets the same lump sum deduction !
10:18 PM on 11/02/2010
.
[JP Morgan has estimated expiration of all the cuts could cut about 1 percent to 1.25 percent from GDP growth over the course of a year, as personal income falls]

looks like a typo here--should be GOP, not GDP.
.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
janiepants
06:02 AM on 10/28/2010
I propose taxpayer no longer extend healthcare for goverment employees--Congress included and let Bush tax cuts expire for as long we're in an unofficial war in the middle east.
12:01 PM on 10/26/2010
Can someone please explain to me how higher taxes are good in the midst of an economic downturn? Everyone just seems to hate the tax cuts because they're associated with Shrub.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
12:36 PM on 10/26/2010
higher taxes are good because it is fair...dont you know....our president is on video saying that lower taxes increase revenue...so he must understand...but that isnt fair....and we want fair, not more revenue.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Ortho Stice
Only the Left is in its right mind
01:42 AM on 11/05/2010
Wisco:

I will give you a real world example. I am in the 28% bracket. My taxes will go up approximately $2000 per year, or about $40 per month. Keeping that $40 would buy me half a week's worth of groceries. On the other hand, if we let the cuts expire, it will add trillions of dollars to be applied to the deficit.

It has nothing to do with Bush. It has to do with the fact that the GOP pontificates about fiscal responsibility and lowering the deficit, yet they don't want to take measures that will do so. Why? Because many of them are in bed with the Chamber of Commerce, which sees any taxation as anathema.
photo
Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
10:54 AM on 10/26/2010
For almost two years, the Republicans have opposed President Obama and his policies. They could have worked with the Democrats to work something out about tax cuts before they went off on the campaign trail but they didn't.

Now, if, and I say IF, the Republicans regain the House, the Democrats should, to show them petty defiance works both ways, refuse to even consider doing anything about the tax cuts during the lame duck session.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
12:37 PM on 10/26/2010
for 1 of the years the republicans were 100% irrelevant....dims all of the way and they couldnt do what they wanted..
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
nomadrdw
Zen Druid
03:13 PM on 10/26/2010
so you really have no idea of how congress works then i take it. the GOP has done every thing in its power to block and destroy any thing the would have really helped the middle class, and instead, just worried about the big corps that pay for their over the top lifestyle, while the rest of us pay for their health care for the rest of their lives.
01:21 AM on 10/26/2010
If the GOOPers win, the vast majority of us will be to broke to worry about taxes,and the wealthy 74 will have so much more money they won't care about paying higher taxes, so who cares. Let them expire.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
12:38 PM on 10/26/2010
but you will have healthcare....i am not sure how healthy one can be without food but i think we may see soon during our 4 year recession...
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
nomadrdw
Zen Druid
03:15 PM on 10/26/2010
you do understand that this recession was cause by 2 wars that the GOP started but didn't bother to pay for?
that and the total deregulation of all industry during the Bush years?
10:21 PM on 11/02/2010
.
the soon-to-be-extinct "middle class", soon to graduate from the class of '99ers
won't have jobs, anyway--so "tax cut" becomes meaningless.
.
05:31 PM on 10/25/2010
Perhaps we can do comprehensive tax reform and produce a tax code that makes sense. And perhaps the sun will rise in the west.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ColoradoCool
Relentless...
05:10 PM on 10/25/2010
I'm always floored to see pictures and videos of Dubya the Incompetent leaning forward and patronizingly schooling people who are at least twice as smart as he is. The unmitigated hubris of the clown is jaw dropping.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
MileHighCityMan
Fight Boldly or Lose
04:41 PM on 10/25/2010
They should all expire for the benefit of the obscene Republican deficits ($1.3 trillion deficit the day before Obama got inaugurated) caused by two unfunded wars, a Medicare Big Pharma giveaway, and irresponsible tax cuts in the first place.

That being said, this article and the opinions of most neglect what is so obvious to some of us; Democrats will cave as they always do and extend all of the tax cuts in order to please the very same corporatists who will still call them Marxists and Communists regardless. The base of the Democratic Party will finally wake up and start organizing a restructuring of the party by throwing out the corporatist sellouts in 2012 primaries. There will be a huge grass roots progressive movement after the Democrats learn the wrong lessons from this election and abandon the base even more than it has already.
photo
getsit
good morning, I'm here
06:01 PM on 10/25/2010
Um-pie in the sky. You're expecting Democrats to get off their butts and WORK to change things?! If only they got out and voted on Nov 2. That would be a start.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
MileHighCityMan
Fight Boldly or Lose
06:10 PM on 10/25/2010
It's not hard to get the vote out when you act in ways that create an enthusiastic voter base... ie. 2008. The party needs to reorganize in a way that allows it to match rhetoric with action in terms of putting up a genuine fight for the policies they say they support. That's not going to happen with Blue Dogs having so much influence in the party.

But yes, people should go all out to support and vote for progressive Democrats and/or independents.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
CT Independent
04:08 PM on 10/25/2010
Let those tax custs expire. We all need to pay our fair share. ALL of us, not just the richest, but all of us.
photo
TexasDem0
USMC Vietnam combat vet
04:11 PM on 10/25/2010
Then let's eliminate all the loop holes which make the tax code so complex and benefit only the rich.
04:46 PM on 10/25/2010
Tell me again why we shouldn't give tax cuts to the middle class? Tell me why is it that we have to give the rich a tax cut if we want to help out the middle class? Surely you do not see a correlation between the two class.
photo
getsit
good morning, I'm here
06:02 PM on 10/25/2010
We only got the MINISCULE tax cuts for the middleclass so the rich could get their humongous tax cuts TWICE.
photo
BVictor1
Chicago, My kind of town...
03:02 PM on 10/25/2010
Just let them expire.

For those complaining about a deficit, you can't also argue for a tax cut as the two work against one another. However, knowing the amount of hypocrites out there. the argument will continue.
photo
4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
03:59 PM on 10/25/2010
Actually, all the GOPer-BAGGers are arguing exactly that; you can complain about the deficit and brag about billionaire tax cuts too in Fantasyland.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
CT Independent
04:09 PM on 10/25/2010
I am not sure where you are coming from, since the baggers want the taxes cut, This comment is saying let the tax cuts expire.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
CT Independent
04:08 PM on 10/25/2010
I agree, let themexpire for everyone. Well said.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
mynamesyow
Scientist, Gonzo, Champion of the Poor
01:58 PM on 10/25/2010
good. Im glad. Im firmly in the middle class (through hard work and education, not Family ties) and dont mind paying a little extra to get us back in the right direction. Sacrifice has been a Bedrock Of American Progress in times of War since the days of the Revolution when the Continental COngress asked for "Contributions" to supply our troops and run the war. and those same sacrifices helped us pay for (along w war bonds) and win
the World Wars of the 20th Century and after allowed our economy to thrive w money available for returning GI's to go to college and build the Great Nation we find ourselves in......In contrast after 9/11 bush and the Repubs idea of sacrifice was "to go shopping" while they borrowed Trillions from Communist China to pay for an ill-conceived war of Choice in Iraq and a Tax Cut for the Wealthy that was only allowable (bush's own words at the State of the Union Address) because of the Great economic success Clinton had achieved that left this country flush w a Surplus. but once that surplus disappeared bush had no trouble keeping the Cuts...
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
12:44 PM on 10/26/2010
i dont think folks would mind contributing if spending were cut and the federal employees were stuck in revenue increase time on their paychecks like the rest of the usa
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
nomadrdw
Zen Druid
03:22 PM on 10/26/2010
you are concerned with the income of federal employees and yet the fact that a CEO is taking home BILLIONS of dollars is totally lost on you. blind and well, you can fill in the blanks here.