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Gallup's Frank Newport Responds To Criticism

First Posted: 10/22/10 07:16 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

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Gallup Poll Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport posted an online response this morning to the critical analysis of the Gallup likely voter model by Emory University Professor Alan Abramowitz that appeared on the Huffington Post earlier this week. Newport argues that Abramowitz misinterpreted Gallup's data and simply "did not like" the "double-digit Republican lead among likely voters" in the Gallup's recent poll.

For the past two weeks, Gallup has released results showing a huge advantage for Republicans among likely voters on the generic ballot for Congress, the question that asks voters whether they will support the Democrat or the Republican candidate in their own congressional district. They have released results for two scenarios: When they assume a turnout level of 55% of adults nationwide, Gallup's most recent release (based on interviews conducted between September 30 and October 10) gave Republicans a 12-point lead (53% to 41%). When they assume a turnout of 40%, which is consistent with typical off-year voting, they show an even wider, 17-point Republican lead (56% to 39%).

Abramowitz considers the results "wildly implausible" in comparison to findings from previous exit polls. In particular, he focused on results that Gallup shared with him among the non-white voters that show the Republican candidate leading by a 10-point margin (52% to 42%). Drawing on exit polls, he infers that this subgroup is likely two-thirds Latino and concludes that, as such, the apparent shift to Republicans is the "most implausible result" in the Gallup Poll.

Some Democrats have seized on the Abramowitz analysis, including Simon Rosenberg of the New Democratic Network (NDN), who concluded that the poll "is so statistically flawed that Gallup should revise the model and its results or take it down from its website immediately."

In response, Newport addresses Abramowitz' subgroup analysis:

Having the in-depth Gallup tabs in hand, Alan took issue with various voting patterns among subgroups, mainly saying that they were "too Republican". But of course, in a situation in which the Republicans have a historically high lead on the generic ballot, Republicans will mathematically have a historically high lead in many of the subgroups within the overall pools of voters. That point should, for most observers, go without saying.

One of the specifics of Alan's micro-analysis of estimated votes among smaller subgroups focused on "nonblack, nonwhites." That's actually a group not represented in the cross-tabular data we typically use and was not in the data provided Alan, but one Alan apparently attempted to identify by performing his own calculations. (Typically a scholar would contact us or inquire about aspects of the data they are unsure of, but I don't believe we heard from Alan on this one.) In this particular case, we would have told Alan that nonwhites in our usual procedures is a broad, mixed group of respondents, including blacks, Hispanics, Asians, other races, and a significant number of respondents who chose not to identify their race. Alan attempted to make guesses or assumptions about the composition of this group, and made an assumption as a result that Hispanics in the likely voter sample must be too Republican in voting orientation.

In fact, like most pollsters, we typically are cautious and do not report data for subgroups when there is low sample size involved. Hispanics are one of these. Certainly our analyses of broad, aggregated datasets has shown that Hispanic registered voters as a national group skew Democratic, as we have pointed out many times. But Gallup has also shown that Hispanics' support for President Obama tumbled into the low 50s earlier this year and has only recently recovered some. Further, among likely voters within all subgroups, those most likely to vote this year are disproportionately Republican in their orientation compared to the subgroup as a whole.

So the gist of Newport's response, which is worth reading in full, is essentially that Abramowitz was wrong to assume that most of the "non-white" respondents are Latino, and that more generally, their results will prove to be plausible if they are correct. I was curious, however, why Newport's post never spelled out just how many respondents were Latino. So I asked via email, and he sent the following response:

The overall percentage of Hispanics in the Sep 30-Oct 10 likely voter sample (using the low turnout model) is 4% and it is 8% in the national [adult] sample. Although, as noted, we do not report exact numbers for smaller subgroups, the vote choices of the Hispanics in the likely voter sample skew substantially Democratic. It is important to note that the percent of Hispanics in our final likely voter sample was 4% in 2002 and 5% in 2006, and both of the generic ballot estimates from these years were remarkably accurate compared to the overall national vote, even with one being a Republican year and the other a Democratic year. So this year's sampling appears to be on track with previous, accurate likely voter modeling. As I noted in my discussion, and as I think you understand, micro analysis of the composition of samples is often not productive, particularly when comparisons are made to other polls, particularly from past elections (such as exit polls), and misses the larger point that samples are accurate taken as a whole.

So Hispanics represented 4% of the weighted value of their likely voter sample rather than the roughly 85 that Abramowitz assumed. If the unweighted sample size is roughly the same as the weighted value, that 4% translates into roughly 75 interviews out of roughly 1900, a subgroup that would have a margin of error of at least +/- 12%. Newport is not sharing the actual result. Is it implausible? Well maybe it is, Newport implies, but so what -- it's a small sample size with a huge margin of error that has little impact on the overall numbers.

While I agree that a "micro" focus on small subgroup inconsistencies is often inconclusive, simply brushing aside criticism as griping from partisans about results they "dislike" misses the larger issue. The results of Gallup's traditional likely voter model, using their traditional assumptions about turnout, have been very different as compared to other pollsters this year. Given Gallup's outsized influence on the campaign narrative, we need to understand all we can about why their results look the way they do. Critical analysis from all corners is warranted, whether we dislike the results or not.

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Gallup Poll Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport posted an online response this morning to the critical analysis of the Gallup likely voter model by Emory University Professor Alan Abramowitz that appeared o...
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ylobrkrd
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02:09 AM on 10/31/2010
Polls are the new con on the American public. Inaccurate, prejudiced, misleading and most of all a cynical attempt at controlling voters attitudes. I want to see them have to post the questions online. Stop the push go polling (polling that is really an attempt at swaying opinions). It's all just unmitigated frap.
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ENS1976
I don't practice, I know what I'm doing.
12:03 AM on 10/29/2010
The Hohenwald Times is real. www.thehohenwaldtim.forumcab.com
Gallup assumes twice as many over 65 will vote as compared to those under 29.
Reverse those numbers since there are twice as many people under 29 who aren't being polled who have voted in the last two election. After two elections the odds increase dramatically that they will continue to vote.
Discount the polls that only poll landlines by 5%.
Completely ignore weighing in Republicans favour by Gallup. Democrats will vote whether they are enthused about the candidate or not. A grudging vote counts just as much as a Lunatic Vote. Democrats are going to lose seats, no doubt ! There are 40 Blue Dogs that need to be gone but we do need to keep just enough to keep the majority. But if we lose every Blue Dog we'll take those seats back with REAL Democrats in 2012.
The poll I posted showed the true results without weighing in favour of Republicans.
That doesn't fit the narrative the Republicans are trying to sell does it ?
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OLJW00
right is right
11:44 PM on 10/28/2010
The good news is all this conjecture will be put to rest in just a few short days..
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thepulse33
Power corrupts.
11:32 PM on 10/28/2010
Late in the Presidential election Gallup had McCain tied with Obama. Gallup polls are rarely accurate.
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Hontas Farmer
Stargazer
01:18 AM on 10/29/2010
That's not true. This webpage shows Gallups numbers for the 2008 election over time.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/gallup-daily-election-2008.aspx

As you can see they had Obama ahead of McCain for all but the period from 9/6 to 9/14 2008. Right before the election they have Obama 53 McCain 40. That's not a tie. Use Google next time.
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peace-love-brotherhood
11:18 PM on 10/28/2010
Gallup polls, think that they can sway voter outcomes by their "statistical premonitions". Well, many of us American Voters are not biting. We intend to vote our consciences. We intend to make the decisions. We intend to determine the outcomes without being told how to do so. So Gallup, Zogby, step aside. We will decide who will be elected.
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R Car
11:16 PM on 10/28/2010
Dems don't believe these polls, get out and vote! They have omitted minorities from the polls!
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LegallyPalin
needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
10:59 PM on 10/28/2010
Tancredo is a ter rorist and bigger threat than Al Qaeda, along with the rest of these tea bag fre aks.
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PaiaGirl
Progressive Engineer
10:51 PM on 10/28/2010
if the polls are correct and Sharron Angle is going to win in Nevada, the only thing I can say, "OMG, how can the majority of an ENTIRE state be so stupid!"
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11:12 PM on 10/28/2010
Too much gambling and prostitution at the Mustang Ranch I guess.
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Gebby
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10:44 PM on 10/28/2010
why does rasmusen and gallup ALWAYS have republicans stronger in every election. and why do they alway s come out right away with a poll that neutralizes another poll that shows dems performing well
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Hontas Farmer
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10:52 PM on 10/28/2010
Uhmm they don't have the republicans as stronger in every election remember these from two years ago?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111709/Democrats-Lead-Big-Generic-Ballot.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111703/Final-Presidential-Estimate-Obama-55-McCain-44.aspx

I could list more but... oh what the heck here's more counter proof...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111664/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Continues-Outpace-McCain.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111661/Gallup-Daily-Obama-52-McCain-42-Among-Likely-Voters.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111679/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Widens-Some-All-Bases.aspx.
Gallup does not always show republicans as stronger. They don't just make up numbers. There is no conspiracy. It's just a big cycle.

The pendulum swung to the left last time, and it looks like it will swing right this time. Personally I think that a republican congress would be good for Obama's 2012 reelection prospects.
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Gebby
artist gebhardtart advocate for a better world
11:40 PM on 10/28/2010
in 2008, what were gallups polls leading up to the election. and then what were they just before the election. you may find that they quickly swung obama's way just before they election. looks like in 2008 they adjusted a lot. generic polls in this years election have been 30% apart newsweek to gallup just in the last 2 weeks. how is this possible?
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Hontas Farmer
Stargazer
10:56 PM on 10/28/2010
Oh I forgot you also mention Rasmusen. What did they say in 2008
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2008/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"The final Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Election 2008 shows Barack Obama with 52% of the vote while John McCain is six points back at 46%. One percent (1%) of voters say they’ll select a third-party option while 1% remain undecided."

That does not sound like they were showing republicans as stronger now does it?
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Hontas Farmer
Stargazer
10:35 PM on 10/28/2010
Gallup's explanation sounds completely reasonable to me. Assuming that all the "nonwite-nonblack's" in their poll must be Hispanic is a bad assumption. America is racially/culturally more complicated than three or four easy categories. I'm sure all the other nonwhite-non black peoples, from American Indians to just plain Indians that live here would/could have very different views from eachother. I for one would Identify as more than one race or refuse to identify my race at all.

Prof. Abramowitz made one of the worst kinds of mistakes a researcher can make with their statistics. It would be like having a poll in which Democrats lead among straight white men, and then saying the poll must be wrong because straight white men must be Republican. That's just not logical or scientific.
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4QDC
Bring it on Hoffa!
11:24 PM on 10/28/2010
I have Fanned you, Hontas Farmer, not because I agree with your politics -- you appear to have somewhat Liberal leanings -- but because you provide a rational analysis, and in previous posts have bemoaned the name-calling that so frequently occurs with many of the Leftist-types posting on here. Thank you.
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Hontas Farmer
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11:40 PM on 10/28/2010
Thanks. That you think I have liberal leanings, combined with others thinking I must be Rush Limbaugh in disguise, could only mean I'm actually an independent. :-)
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espressobeans
. . . just saying it like it is.
10:24 PM on 10/28/2010
Gallop is in the push pol business.
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PaiaGirl
Progressive Engineer
10:51 PM on 10/28/2010
Really? It's only illegal in one state but should be illegal in all.

Why do you say this? Have they been doing push polls?
10:17 PM on 10/28/2010
It's right there in black and white. Gallup admits that they do no poll 'sub-groups' like minorities because the numbered polled, for them, will be too low. But that is besides the point:
Generic mid-term polls that Gallup does are not paid for by anyone. The associated news organizations to not pay them a dime.
Instead, these polls are a form of advertising for Gallup, and other polling organizations, who use the brand awareness to help with their real business -- polling and market research for corporations. Because they want to get that business, and most of these corporations are pro-Republican, voila! Republicans win!! And if the poll helps to create that result, all the better.
Under no circumstance take any Gallup poll any more seriously than a commercial for dog food. Dogs like dog food, but you will never really know what it is to be a dog and like dogfood. And Gallup will never really know what the real voting public is actually thinking.
10:11 PM on 10/28/2010
How can any anyone for a moment believe the "trickle-down-theory"?
The rich don't let their wealth "trickle".
That's why they are rich.
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PaiaGirl
Progressive Engineer
10:52 PM on 10/28/2010
and not only that, the rich I've dealt with are cheap tippers and will argue to death to get you to go lower on your bid.
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ENS1976
I don't practice, I know what I'm doing.
10:08 PM on 10/28/2010
After the election lets see if Gallup is as close as The Hohenwald Times Poll.
I'll bet the little poll nobody has heard of Kicks Gallups Ass.
Kentucky, Conway vs Paul Dem 45.3 Rep 44.7 Toss up
Maryland, Mikulski vs Wargotz Dem 61.8 Rep 30.1 Dem
Nevada, Reid vs Angle Dem 51.2 Rep 43.7 Dem
New York A, Schumer vs Townsend Dem 67 Rep 25 Dem
New York B, Gillibrand vs DioGaurdi Dem 60 Rep 28 Dem
Oregon, Wyden vs Huffman Dem 59.6 Rep 32.7 Dem
Pennsylvania, Sestak vs Toomey Dem 49.3 Rep 41.8 Dem
Vermont, Leahy vs Britton Dem 66.5 Rep 24.8 Dem
Washington, Murray vs Rossi Dem 53.9 Rep 40.8 Dem
West Virginia, Manchin vs Raese Dem 52.3 Rep 40.8 Dem
Wisconsin, Feingold vs Johnson Dem 50.7 Rep 46.8 Leans Dem
10:37 PM on 10/28/2010
Are you serious? Is this an actual poll? Because I will take that bet in a heartbeat.
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:39 PM on 10/28/2010
Wow, I like those numbers......but this poll does seem to be the outlier. I guess we'll know soon enough.
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RRundbaken
10:02 PM on 10/28/2010
These polls are out of control. Everyday we are told poll numbers and nothing happens the way they say. It's irresponsible. We do not need to be told poll numbers over and over again. Likely voters, leaning voters, undecided voters, the numbers are widening, the numbers are closing. Sheesh, enough already. The moment a newscast mentions polls I turn the channel.