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Gay Teen Suicides Pervasive, A 'Hidden Problem': Expert

First Posted: 10/22/10 09:06 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

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A recent rash of suicides among gay youth has captured the attention of the nation, with President Obama releasing a video Thursday aimed at reaching gay teens threatened by bullying.

Among the deaths most heavily reported by the media was that of Tyler Clementi, the Rutgers University student whose intimate interactions with another man were broadcast over the internet.

While Clementi's death is heartbreaking, and the details surrounding it particularly vivid, some experts say the bigger story is that hundreds of suicides go unreported or underreported every year.

"While it's great to have this topic in the news, unfortunately this isn't news. This is an issue that has been going on for a long time," said Leigh Powers, head of Information Services at the Suicide Prevention Resource Center.

The most recent data from The American Association of Suicidology shows that there are more than 1,000 suicides on college campuses ever year. In 2007, more than 4,000 young people aged 15 to 24 killed themselves.

"Given the data, it's clear that all of us need to be equipped to identify youth -- particularly lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth -- who may be thinking about suicide so we can keep them safe and connect them with services and support," Powers said.

Solid statistics are hard to find since most mortality data does not include sexual orientation, and anyway many youngsters have yet to come out. But a Gallup poll estimated that 10 percent of Americans or less had more than "occasional" homosexual relationships.

Further, a study by the Suicide Prevention Center shows lesbian, gay and bisexual youth are between roughly 1.5 and 7 times more likely then heterosexual youth to have reported attempting suicide.

"Being lesbian, gay, bisexual and/or transgender is not a risk factor for suicide," Powers emphasized to HuffPost in a statement. "Actually, it is the social stigma and discrimination that LGBT youth experience that results in feelings and behaviors which are, in turn, associated with suicidal behavior."

Some have argued the issue has been in the news media spotlight because the incidents were related to gay bullying. But bullying isn't rare either. CBS News reports that one in six students admits to being bullied two to three times a month or more.

Gay teens aren't the only ones whose suicides go unmentioned.

"Suicide tends to be underreported, because it's something that's embarrassing and families don't like to admit it," said Ronald Maris, who teaches at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine with a specialty in suicidology.

"If there is a suicide, often it's not made public," Maris said. "It's kind of a hidden problem. I would guess that there are certainly many other cases that have not been brought to the attention of the national media -- I mean that's pretty obvious. But how many cases there are? I don't have any way of knowing. "

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A recent rash of suicides among gay youth has captured the attention of the nation, with President Obama releasing a video Thursday aimed at reaching gay teens threatened by bullying. Among the death...
A recent rash of suicides among gay youth has captured the attention of the nation, with President Obama releasing a video Thursday aimed at reaching gay teens threatened by bullying. Among the death...
 
 
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01:17 AM on 10/31/2010
I have launched a new website that is designed to stop bullying and abuse.

http://www.haltnow.ca/ - Humanity Against Local Terrorism - HALT.

The more of our voices that say HALT; the more of our children we can save. This new website offers education, prevention, support and services to abused and bullied victims as well as hopefully finding a solution to stop this local terrorism of bullying, abuse and domestic violence within our communities. Please help us stop these senseless acts. Please take time to visit this site, become a member and add your voice.
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WarriorLemming
An avalanche On Republican's B*llsh*t Mountain
02:02 AM on 10/24/2010
Just as with the murders of abortion doctors the extreme religious right feel they are doing a service in the name of God when another "abomination" is wiped from the face of this earth. It isn't even possible to shame these people into seeing these deaths as wrong because after all they have God on their side.
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Jdaddy1951
08:43 PM on 10/23/2010
Bullies are unacceptable. Bullies are un-American. Bullies can be found in high schools and pulpits and in school administrative offices, among other places. Zero tolerance for bullies and bigots!
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KrautMan
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07:09 PM on 10/25/2010
Err... bullying is actually as American as it gets, from an international perspective.
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Jdaddy1951
09:03 PM on 10/25/2010
So what are you saying? That bullying is acceptable behavior? No, sir, it is NOT, whether it's being done by Americans or any other nation!
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DrBlunt
Telling it like it is....
07:50 AM on 10/23/2010
Just think... before they were teens, they were taught:

"...the land of the free" - BooShet!
"...home of the brave" - More BooShet

Maybe in 1814 - Not These Days! - These days, it's more like like; home of the racists, homophobes & true bigots!
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ThankGodhesgone
Always Progressive and loving the CONs meltdown.
04:33 AM on 10/23/2010
You people that preach your hatred of gays and lesbians, whatever your reasons, are directly responsible for the deaths of these children.

I hope that you are proud of yourselves.
12:42 AM on 10/24/2010
More than enough blood for more than enough hands.
03:14 AM on 10/23/2010
After getting this special right for us LGBT, I won't think we are kicked out by family, by world. I'm here as a bisexual, get very happy for this matter. Now I can speak out loudly "hi everyone, I'm a bisexual. I love the world." without any hesitation. Now, feel we are also common people as equal as others. "No matter we are gay, lesbian, bisexual or tansgender, our heart is full of love. And we also hope to have life-long love" said by one of my bisexual firiend met at the famous bisexual club BiFlirts.com on heart blog. Most of us like-minded people are deeply moved by her honest words. Thanks for making us accepted by others. We are really proud of who we are.
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SAVE WOLVES
08:16 PM on 10/24/2010
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
07:11 PM on 10/25/2010
This must have been the most disgusting case of product placement I've ever witnessed.
02:51 AM on 10/23/2010
it is more than gays the first time i came face to face with this i was 13 years old [im 60 now]a kid in my class hung himself it is good when they do not take others with them as in a car or by cop but it is a growing problem like STDs it is better in the light
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ANuttyReader
01:04 AM on 10/23/2010
When I was a teenager many times I contemplated suicide, I could not face the world telling them I am gay, I was going to desintegrate for sure and the world was going to shun me forever.

I still have trouble coming out - it gets easier.

I am happy I hung in there, it gets better and there is still so much to do for equality.
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
11:56 PM on 10/22/2010
elizlucinda on Oct 22, 2010 at 23:13:28
“Perhaps people who disagree with homosexuality could do it with their mouths closed.

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You make my point, some gay activist want to silence anyone who disagrees them.
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WhereIsTheTruth
We need more chlorine in the gene pool!
12:08 AM on 10/23/2010
This is not disagreement. This is some people thinking they are somehow entitled to tell other people how they should live their lives, who they should love and how they should love them. You don't have that right - your rights end where my begin. You don't have to like it, but that doesn't give you or anyone else who disagrees with gay and lesbian people the right to berate young LGBT people, beat them up and torment them until they can't stand to live anymore.
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
12:39 AM on 10/23/2010
It's called freedom of speech. :) I never said anything about beating anyone up, that's against the law.
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Lawson Meadows
Plant in your kids, the seeds of greatness!
03:17 AM on 10/23/2010
Roll'inTruth,

Well said! As an aging, married, short, atraight, chubby male with an irritating bald spot, one thing I have learned, and become tired of, is the intolerance of differing preferences.

Another thing is the growth of disagreement without respect, which creates gaps in the process of understanding and accpetance.

No one should be subject to ridicule because of life choices. How many people have been blocked from their destiny, their passion, their greatness, and their happiness by pressure from those who service their own beliefs and values at the expense of potentials in others?

Then there is the family: "Be like me or you are nothing to me" stings from a parent fearful of a perceived stigma from their children. The parent's fear is born from potential judgment of others, but the shame is massaged into the minds of the children.

No matter the orientation, children need to develop the self's: confidence, image, reliance, control, et al. Along the way, they need to be guided or mentored so they will develop and adopt mental capacity, emotional stability, physical health, and strength of spirit.

Confucious said, "To cure the ills of the nation, cure those of the family." I say to cure the intolerance in our nation, cure the intolerance within the family. I know it is not the only area needing attention, but it is a big one. The better the self-image, the less likely to bully others.

Lawson Meadows
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
07:56 AM on 10/23/2010
John: Why do I need to hear that you disagree with the Gay lifestyle, as you have put it in other posts? you are free to disagree...you just don't need to share that with everyone.
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Lawson Meadows
Plant in your kids, the seeds of greatness!
05:48 PM on 10/23/2010
elizlucinda,

John is right as far as his statement goes, there are GLBT activists who would silence those in disagreement, and he does have the right to state his opinion.

What he misses, the whole truth he avoids, is that many in his "club" strive to silence those in the GLBT club (and anyone supporting GLBT acceptance) using methods from verbal intimidation to leathal violence.

Restricting communication is always unacceptable, and in the long run ineffective. Better to let him speak, because in the bright light of free communication, a bad idea casts a short shadow.

Respectfully,
Lawson Meadows
11:55 PM on 10/22/2010
When I was 13, my mother found Jesus. It wasn't long after that I was forced to attend a church that preached old-fashioned jeramaids- a puritanical, hell fire and brimstone philosophy.
They certainly had a way of making God out to be an extremely unlikeable entity. The pastor imprinted his worldview on the congregation- telling them to vote for Bush, belligerently asserting that being gay was unacceptable, a damnable offense, a perverted, sick and twisted lifestyle to CHOOSE. So every Sunday and most Wednesdays, I was forced to endure HOURS of this preaching. At 13, knowing I was gay, not having a family unit I could turn to for support or a sense of strength I could cling to, it was very easy to become bitter and hopeless. As a teenager, I felt trapped, abandoned and alone. I believe, indiscriminately, that all life is valuable life. As a teenager, I felt trapped, abandoned and alone. I remember it all too vividly. And while things have gotten much better in most ways for the LGBT community, they are not quite there. It hurts that we have to live in such a hateful society and world. I have zero tolerance for intolerance.
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ANuttyReader
01:00 AM on 10/23/2010
I am sorry you had to go through that
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
02:46 AM on 10/23/2010
Blame your mother, not the rest of us. We had nothing to do with what your mother did.
10:10 AM on 10/23/2010
john, you sound clueless! live a little... and let others do the same! no one cares what you think. i bet your life sucks... i would hate to be full of so much prejudice :- /
02:43 PM on 10/23/2010
It's unfortunate that, as a human being, who has 100% faith in a God that was constructed for him, that you would so rashly assume I was looking for an answer or advice or somebody to "blame". Your response is exactly the kind of response I would expect from someone who believes that God gives a crap about some filthy American's chances of winning the lottery. Really, you pray for that? How sad and naive. But if you could, however briefly, take into account other peoples struggles instead of your own shallow and myopic point of view, you would see that my comment was simply a personal account, an example, to try and encourage kids not to give up. You are what is wrong with the world, but something tells me you just like upsetting people- it's a fetish you have. So, I don't buy it one minute. Good day!
11:32 PM on 10/22/2010
"The suicides" are the most oppressed group in our society.
Read an excellent article about it at: http://zinelibrary.info/files/EXPECT%20RESISTANCE.pdf
pages 258-261 of the book.

it is the best thing i've ever read on suicide. please read it.
IT DOESN'T GET BETTER.
that's why people need to NOT commit suicide, and stay and fight against all the disgusting injustice in this society!!
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kenhamlett
11:25 PM on 10/22/2010
The problem goes back to the status of gays in our society. As long as religious leaders condemn the lives of people because of their identity at birth, and as long as political leaders determine that they can make gays and lesbians second class citizens by deciding on their own which rights gays and lesbians can have (subject also to changes of their minds, as we have seen this week), and as long as modern media are allowed to demean gays and lesbians with epithets and slurs that no other minority groups can be subjected to at this point in our history, young gay people are going to feel hopeless and frightened and hated. As a gay man who came through the process at an even more difficult time in our history, I know that things get better. But, late in my life, I still experience hateful name-calling and looks of disgust from some people who still feel at ease hating me simply for who I am. We need action from our leaders in every field to change this for good and forever. But, these leaders have not yet shown that they have the courage or the morality to say once and for all that we are all equal. I had hoped that this would be the period in which the change would come, but it has not.
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CHARLESTHETENTH
11:23 PM on 10/22/2010
Where was all this years ago when Gay & Lesbian agenda was not in your face and making every front page ?? As a society the sad truth is Gays & Lesbians will never be accepted. It seems the more exposure they create for themselves the more it ruffles Society and in turn the more anger is generated against them. The Civil Rights Laws of the early 60's brought greater awareness to Racism then ever before and to this day what has really been accomplished. Racism is alive and well in our Society more than ever, and no Law will change that. States can pass Laws favoring Gays & Lesbians and force upon Society something Society is not equipped to handle. Human nature being what it is some things are difficult to fully accept....like equality of all Human Beings regardless of who they are and whatever place they may hold in our Society. Man has been struggling with these issues and many others since the beginning and will continue to struggle to the very end. Maybe if we face the truth in our convictions and come to terms with our frailties "We Can Overcome".... but that may be better said than done. !!
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Paddy Murphy
11:34 PM on 10/22/2010
Any particular Reason you're capitalizing Random letters?

I would Hardly call my orientation a Frailty. It's Just who I Am. Sorry if You and "Society" aren't comfortable with Us. You are on The wrong side of history, However. The more the LGBT community becomes a part of Society at Large, the harder Those who hate Us will push back. In a generation, being Gay will not Be an issue, because People like you will No longer matter.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
11:05 PM on 10/23/2010
People like him will be dead by then -- the younger ones are more accepting
(OK, not if dyed in the garments Mormons, etc)
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BenK1976
12:18 AM on 10/23/2010
progress has been made and society is capable of changing for the better ...pushing for a better society is patriotic and American in the best sense.
11:19 PM on 10/22/2010
The hidden problem being that some people are sort of like gay? Hopeless gynophile myself, I find Gay men and Lesbians are really fun people to know. Get over it so called conseratives. Only your insecurity drives you to such extreme nonsense.
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Fernando
My Micro-bio is empty? Really?
11:36 PM on 10/22/2010
You are referring to them as if they weren't repressing anything. ; )
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ANuttyReader
01:01 AM on 10/23/2010
fun, like for your personal entertaiment?
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Jdaddy1951
11:12 PM on 10/22/2010
"...'Suicide tends to be underreported, because it's something that's embarrassing and families don't like to admit it,' said Ronald Maris, who teaches at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine with a specialty in suicidology ..."

This is true. I hope the focus on gay teen suicides continues and the war against bullies continues. But I also hope that the message of "It Gets Better" reaches beyond just gay people and to all people who are considering taking their own lives.
02:38 AM on 10/23/2010
thankyou for your post you are right when persons asked for help and are not heard {in there minds} they do things that we have no way of knowing they would do no matter who they are. {AND RICHARD CORY WENT HOME LAST night AND PUT A BUlITT IN HIS BRAIN} A OLD SONG hope we all look after our kids. love you all jj