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Treasury Department Says HAMP Doesn't Put People Into Default

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First Posted: 10/26/10 07:02 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

A federal watchdog reported Monday that the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program sometimes causes people to lose their homes to foreclosure -- a conclusion that had already been reached by some homeowners and their advocates.

The Treasury Department, which administers the Home Affordable Modification Program, did not respond to that claim in its answer to the watchdog's report. But a Treasury official told HuffPost on Tuesday that no one who is current on their mortgage payments can become delinquent because of a HAMP modification.

Consumer advocates heartily disagree.

"Treasury's wrong about that," said Diane Thompson, a lawyer with the National Consumer Law Center. "Everybody comes out of the trial modification period owing more than they did when they went in, and everybody comes out with their credit worse."

Under HAMP, eligible borrowers apply for a modification that typically cuts monthly payments by $500. If they successfully make those payments during a three-month trial period, then their trial modification is supposed to become "permanent" for five years.

Borrowers in HAMP modifications typically receive foreclosure notices during their trial periods. To the utter bafflement of struggling homeowners, mortgage servicers are allowed to proceed with the foreclosure process during HAMP trials, just not to actually foreclose (though consumer attorneys say that such bogus foreclosures do, in fact, happen).

Bank of America staffers repeatedly told Troy Taliancich, for instance, that he he was seriously delinquent because of his reduced HAMP trial payments, but that he should continue to make the reduced payments anyway. Eventually, the bank stopped accepting his payments altogether because he was in foreclosure. Even as he was making the trial payments the bank told him to make, it turned out, the arrears and fees piled up. "I was only a payment behind when I first called," he said. "I could overcome one payment amount if I had known."

Clarissa Gaff, a staff attorney with the Land of Lincoln Legal Assistance Foundation in Alton, Ill., told HuffPost that her clients, Allen and Mary Pierson, became delinquent on their mortgage because of an extended HAMP trial modification that started in the spring of 2009.

"They were current when they started. They were just scraping by, but they were current, and the mod put them behind," Gaff told HuffPost. "Admittedly, they were at imminent risk of default but I think they could have made it [without HAMP]."

The Treasury official (who was willing to have his words paraphrased but not quoted) said that nobody who could possibly make a payment without HAMP is actually eligible for the program, and that documentation requirements tightened in June should prevent ineligible borrowers from getting trial mods. The Treasury official said that HAMP trial applicants were always told they'd be responsible for any unpaid amounts that accrued during the trial period.

The Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program -- the Wall Street bailout that also gave rise to HAMP -- reported Monday that some HAMP applicants, "who may have somehow found ways to continue to make their mortgage payments, have been drawn into failed trial modifications that have left them with more principal outstanding on their loans, less home equity (or a position further 'underwater'), and worse credit scores.

"Perhaps worst of all," SIGTARP's report continued, "even in circumstances where they never missed a payment, they may face back payments, penalties, and even late fees that suddenly
become due on their 'modified' mortgages and that they are unable to pay, thus resulting in the very loss of their homes that HAMP is meant to prevent."

Since June, HAMP applicants have been required to provide solid documentation of their circumstances by coughing up pay stubs and tax forms. Previously, servicers would grant trial modifications over the phone, contributing to what Treasury and HAMP servicers both called an excess of ineligible people in trial mods. Borrowers who are at risk of "imminent default" are still eligible, however, and the hardship criteria are so broad as to include a "change in household financial circumstances" or an "increase in other expenses."

Alan White, a professor at Valparaiso University law school, pointed out that a common complaint from HAMP applicants is that their servicers tell them they can't get help until they fall behind on payments. According to the Making Home Affordable call center report from February (PDF), 10.9 percent of all HAMP complaints arose from servicers telling borrowers they must be delinquent to be eligible for help. It's the fourth-most common HAMP gripe.

"Treasury is just wrong," said White. "I really wish Treasury would stop defending the banks and start acknowledging that they are preventing HAMP from achieving its goals."

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A federal watchdog reported Monday that the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program sometimes causes people to lose their homes to foreclosure -- a conclusion that had already been r...
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02:21 AM on 10/29/2010
Why not the FED borrow money to borrowers at 0%APR directly? Why we need the banks? Are they partners in using the taxpayers money?
02:42 PM on 10/28/2010
i don't know why they even started with any program this is abnormal and it started way back in 2003 or 2004 these people knew for the most part they could not afford these homes and mortgages that is why there were 80/20 and then in five years a balloon payment which could be up to 5 or 10 thousand dollars that is crazy there is no way i would go into some of those mortgages and the prices where i live in my area had gone up 200.000 to 400.000 dollars and people were buying them like someone said sale
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Gudrun
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11:16 AM on 10/28/2010
Okay, people, if HAMP is such a bad deal, stop applying for the program, you're on your own.
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
07:32 AM on 10/28/2010
The sad truth was stated in the first part of the article "the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program sometimes causes people to lose their homes to foreclosure ". The really sad part is that Obama has taken the side of Wall Street and refused to come to the aid of the American taxpayers. We have to hope that in the upcoming election, he is rewarded for his failure as a leader...
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Anna Cuevas
12:06 AM on 10/28/2010
Not even the HAMP Program admin or the HAMP compliance agent are enforcing any of the requirements of the program - homeowners need to question authority, know their stuff, and be the squeakiest wheel in town to get anywhere with the program.
04:04 PM on 10/27/2010
The outright hypocrisy is an insult to American citizens being denied due process having their properties illegally taken. The "paperwork problems" equate a VOID judgment.

Perjury is no-longer a crime if the perjurer is a foreclosure mill attorney? File false affidavits - forgery - fraudulent assignments - no-matter as long as the defendants are too poor to defend

Let’s see thus far

•They filed 100s of thousands of PERJURED documents. I believe that used to be called “material evidence.”

•They deliberately sold illegal mortgages to borrowers they knew could not repay.

•They deliberately sold those illegal mortgages to sponsors but refused to comply with state laws.

•They deliberately misrepresented the quality of these illegal mortgages to investors.

•They deliberately INSURED those loans to later cash-in on the illegal mortgage.

•They deliberately submitted fraudulent assignments to cover-up the FRAUDULENT investment.

•They deliberately submitted the false affidavits to illegally foreclose thus slide a quasi-Quiet Title in to cover their illegal mortgage scam.

But hey, let’s not be too judgmental about it - after all, those borrowers did default pretty-much as those lenders designed those loans to reset. it almost worked

I'm glad the FED gave lenders 3-Trillion dollars so they don’t go bankrupt. I mean, I can’t wait to apply for a new loan. I’m sure all those families tossed to the street will need a loan someday too. I wonder what their interest rate will be?
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
03:32 PM on 10/27/2010
Of course they would deny it. First of all, its true. Secondly if they admit it, they might be liable. Thirdly, they never intended for it to help homeowners, it was meant to help only the Ivy greed capitalist. Period.
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PhilipTaylor
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02:29 PM on 10/27/2010
IF YOU HAVE BIG EQUITY - BANKS FORECLOSE TO STEAL THE HOME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa55bPx7lfo
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02:07 PM on 10/27/2010
currently, treasury is an extention of banks ... do i need to say more? don't think so.
fraudsters and crooksters are pillars of capitalism. keep kissing asses of buffets/soroses/koches and inhale between farts.
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
01:43 PM on 10/27/2010
HAMP was created solely to help the big banks in their "extend and pretend" accounting fantasy BS, so that the extent of their losses cab be hidden indefinitely.

Helping homeowners was, and still is an afterthought of the program; after all, they're all actual or potential deadbeats, ain't they? That is how the Treasury honchos see average homeowners in America.

In this view of the universe, banksters are always the good guys.

Obama support Treasury.
Treasury's actions generates popular rage
Obama is dismayed at the popular rage.

Time to get a clue.
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rory talbot
Former Dem but they r now wing of Corp. party
01:22 PM on 10/27/2010
That's about right. Obama, please dump Timothy "Rumsfeld" Geithner. He and reality are unacquainted.
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Reno Fickler
Head Lifeguard/Dead Sea Marina
12:58 PM on 10/27/2010
HAMP reeks of the "just pay the interest and the principal will remain unchanged" rationale of the credit card companies. Your payments do not decrease your debt.
The blissfully unaware people never realized that a $200,000 house at 8% is a $400,000 house at 4%. Only bankers can explain how you can double your home's worth, but not paint anything.
12:58 PM on 10/27/2010
Positive home sales numbers should finally start to push home prices up and hopefully start to give ease to the 1/5 American home owners who have a mortgage valued more than home. With all the negative speculations concerning the foreclosure, some how the market was able to move a significant number of homes off the shelf. This was most likely the result of moratoriums on foreclosures across the United States last month and wariness by Americans to even list their homes in such a sour market. Even though that is the case, fears of another real estate double dip should be assuaged. Check out just what America might have dodged.

Real Estate double dip- http://www.hiddenlevers.com/hl/u?cyE8l1
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DebtNavigation
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12:37 PM on 10/27/2010
HAMP has been window dressing--a complete and total lie and a con. In contrast, FDR's HOLC saved 80% of the homeowners in the program.

Americans need to revolt.

In Mexico in the mid-'90s Wall Street engineered a currency coup that tripled the debt owed by small businesses and family farms and also allowed for them to be massively ratejacked on top of it. Mexicans consequently formed the "el Barzon" movement and pushed back Wall Street and deposed their ruling party of 60+ years. In this country YouTube phenom Ann Minch has already declared the debtors' revolt and begun going after them http://www.revoltstartsnow.com

If you've been pushed under, you can read every other page of my book for free: http://www.scribd.com/doc/25443175/Debt-Hope-Down-and-Dirty-Survival-Strategies-Evaluation-Version-Complete
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TMMA
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12:33 PM on 10/27/2010
Another case of disasterous 'unintended consequences' for Americans after our Government 'protects' us.