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First Posted: 10/28/10 11:53 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Audrey Porreca said she began drawing unemployment insurance after losing her job at an architecture firm in June of 2008. After 99 weeks of aid, her jobless benefits ran out this year. She thinks it's ridiculous that she can't find a job.

"It's very weird. You feel unwanted. You feel like you don't fit anymore," said Porreca, who lives with her husband in Rockville Centre, N.Y. "You don't even know if you can walk back into an office and work again because you've been out of work for so long. And nobody seems to be paying attention to any of this. Nobody talks about it."

The plight of people who have exhausted all 99 weeks of unemployment insurance available in some states -- the "99ers" -- has received some attention from Congress and the media, but mostly their predicament is regarded as an intractable and pitiful part of a bigger problem.

One obstacle to helping 99ers is a lack of basic data. How many people can't find work after nearly two years of searching? How many 99ers are there? Nobody even knows.

The Department of Labor told HuffPost that it does not have the micro-level or individual claimant data to make an accurate estimate. With federally-funded extended benefits broken into four "tiers," the different number of weeks available in different states, and individual workers' potential stops and starts -- not to mention the congressional lapses in federal benefits -- nobody has figured out a reliable way to track the people who've used 99 weeks of benefits and still haven't found work.

Congress started giving layoff victims extra weeks of federally-funded benefits in July 2008 on top of the 26 weeks provided by states. As the recession deepened, benefits have been made more and more generous, to the point where in hardest-hit states, people laid off through no fault of their own are eligible for 53 weeks of four-tiered "Emergency Unemployment Compensation" and then 20 weeks of "Extended Benefits."

It's dreadfully confusing: All states offer Tiers 1 and 2, which provide 20 and 14 weeks of aid. Forty-nine states offer Tier 3, which provides 13 weeks of benefits, and 27 states offer Tier 4, which provides six weeks. Thirty-seven states offer Extended Benefits, which provides either 13 or 20 weeks. Which states provide which benefits changes every month, as the different levels of EUC and EB trigger on and off depending on individual states' unemployment rates.

In Montana, for instance, EB triggered off on June 19, so people who didn't reach EB before then can only become 79ers.

The Labor Department, using data provided by states, tracks the number of people who receive initial and final payments in each tier. Since July 2008, 1.7 million people have received final payments under EB. But that doesn't mean there are 1.7 million 99ers, because EB is triggered in some states that lack all four tiers, and because some layoff victims began collecting EB before all four tiers had even been created.

The government's data does allow groups like the National Employment Law Project to put together estimates of how many people won't advance to the next tier of benefits if Congress fails to reauthorize EUC and EB before they expire in November.

If that happens, NELP estimates that two million people will be ineligible for further benefits by the end of the year. (On Thursday NELP revised its initial estimate that 1.2 million would face a cutoff.)

Bills to create a fifth tier of benefits have been introduced in both the House and the Senate, but there's little chance they'll pass as Congress will have only a very short time to reauthorize the existing benefits after it reconvenes on Nov. 15.

Porreca, 53, told HuffPost that she and her husband were grateful to be able to sell their house. She said he's picked up part-time work since his layoff in January and that she is going back to school for nursing. She thought "60 Minutes" did an excellent job in its Sunday report on 99ers.

"It's about time somebody was talking about it," she said, adding that she wished "60 Minutes" addressed possible solutions for the extra-long-term unemployed. "Nobody is ever talking about what they can do to help these people."

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WASHINGTON -- Audrey Porreca said she began drawing unemployment insurance after losing her job at an architecture firm in June of 2008. After 99 weeks of aid, her jobless benefits ran out this year. ...
WASHINGTON -- Audrey Porreca said she began drawing unemployment insurance after losing her job at an architecture firm in June of 2008. After 99 weeks of aid, her jobless benefits ran out this year. ...
 
 
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10:30 PM on 12/02/2010
I recently became aware of The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance after reading a comment to a post on another news website. Curious, I goggled the term “The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance” and was directed to the rally’s page on a website dedicated to the unemployed, the under employed, and the working poor. The website www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com, has a “think tank were visitors go to come up with ideas to improve their circumstances. The idea for the rally was actually hatched there. If you can, please sign up for this rally. I really do believe that if we come together, we can change the agenda of our congress.
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09:39 PM on 11/05/2010
Americans should be ashamed of such a "system".... if not terrified.
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KWiedemer
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12:08 PM on 11/01/2010
Thanks to Aruthr Delaney and the Huffington Post for keeping this issue in the spotlight. I am a 99er in CO and have a very difficult time believing the DOL numbers are any more accurate than the 9.5% unemployment rate they report, not to mention the 5:1 ratio of job seekers to jobs available. From every single source or person I speak to who is looking for work there are often times HUNDREDS of applicants for every job they apply for (myself included).

Kelly Wiedemer
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http://www.examiner.com/unemployment-in-denver/kelly-wiedemer
09:43 AM on 10/31/2010
Possibly the Huffington Post can give more updated information to the unemployed and 99ers. Seems we are forgotten. Even if the Democratics keep the majority of the seats in Congress and the Senate, what will they do for us? Will there be any interest? Will the Republicans be interested? I don't think so. The Republicans would take over on 1/8/2011 does that mean Obama will do something between now and then.
09:36 AM on 10/31/2010
After interview after interview with no results of getting a job, one of the main reasons is that businesses will not hire if you are not presently employed, and they are told not to. Of course, they will take you, if you accept no money. For example, when you go on the interview they want you to go out and canvas the streets until late at night. You go in a van at night with strangers door to door to sign people up for these new small energy businesses. Your not even sure if the driver has a license to drive. It's dangerous. I've been volunteering to learn other careers and to keep active. I've had a good salary, and companys immediately look at your last salary and won't hire you. Very disheartening. Job after job even if you are more than qualified and they say you are qualified for the job and they like, there is no call back. I have one week left of benefits and then what? The better jobs are flooded with people and it is almost unheard of to get a foot in the door. I'm in my 30's with a really good resume, so what can the Government give as an excuse. If they don't pass Tier 5 to give us time as the economy is improving, they are throwing hard working people and good Americans under the bus from which they will never recover.
09:19 AM on 10/31/2010
What got us out of the “Great Depression” was World War II. There was a remarkable decrease in the population because our men & women died overseas. Also, the war created more jobs. The government is not admitting it but we are in a “Great Depression” & I truly believe that by ending all Tiers of Unemployment in the very near future is the governments way of decreasing the population so there will be more jobs to go around & correct the economy. They are truly condeming these poor people to death because they will not be able to collect Unemployment Insurance on any future Tier. America is the laughing stock of all other countries who know how to care for their poor. “Shame On You Washington For Condeming These Poor People To Death”. President Obama: Where are you on this ???? You have the power to stop this. Everyone know's you are not responsible for this & Bush is but you must be more assertive in stopping this & pushing through your heath insurance reform. Living on the street is a horrible death to endure. Stop the madness Washington !!! Simply, there are no jobs because the percentage of Unemployment Insurance has reached record high levels in most states. People cannot find work for this reason. Please allow them to live !!!
07:37 AM on 10/30/2010
How is it that illegal immigrants are never unemployed?
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08:04 AM on 10/31/2010
Because they work hard.
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12:08 PM on 10/31/2010
BS: They're unreported!
03:38 PM on 10/31/2010
Every time I go to Home Depot or Sears I see hundreds of them out of work and they look hungry, even when it's raining they are hoping for a little work. Our high crime rates are areas where they are living, if your hungry you rob and steal to eat. Perhaps it's different outside California.
02:07 PM on 10/29/2010
It is time to put the 99ers back to work !

All people receiving extended benefits should be made to do Public Service Work !

There are just too many things that need fixing up in America !

School classrooms need painting and repair, kids could use additional tutors, etc.

The 6 million receiving extended benefits collect on average $300 per week, $15,000 per year,
for a total of $75 Billion.

America gets nothing for this $75 Billion and the people get no work history so who is going to hire them over people who took jobs.

It is time to help these unemployed and America too.
03:00 PM on 10/29/2010
The problem with your theory is that the $300 average- aside from being illegal because it's below minimum wage- is not enough to be considered "stable employment." It is meant as a small stipend to prevent catastrophic losses (home, car, savings) while allowing the unemployed to continue to look for work. Give that person a 40 hour job- and you just replace one unsustainable situation with another...
12:26 PM on 11/03/2010
$300 per week is not even enough to pay rent.. most of us have come from jobs making $40,000 plus..this small portion is not enough to keep up with bills. The idea that anyone who has been unemployed for 6 months or longer, LIKES living this way..is ludicrous! I'm sure many would be willing to work public service jobs, just as many have resorted to minimum wage jobs to keep food on the table. But is this really a solution? Would these public service jobs restore our ability to live our lives as we once knew them? How long would they last? And would there be enough jobs for everyone? There would still be too many unskilled in those type of positions, so would more need to be spent for training? I think everyone has great ideas for temporary fixes. But we have yet to come up with a real solution. The debating continues as the problem continues to worsen.
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06:26 AM on 11/25/2010
the real solution was supposed to be that all the jobs did not go 'offshore.' then again, everybody would complain about high prices.
01:30 PM on 10/29/2010
DEDAND an Audit of FUTA (Fedral Unemployment Tax)

You are all missing the point after 77 years there should be more than enough money (trillions) in the FUTA fund to pay all claims and still have a huge surplus. And for you idiot republicans / tea baggers its not welfare when it was taken out of your paycheck and paid by your employers for 25 years. The Federal Unemployment Tax (FUT) is paid directly by you and your employers pay roll tax withholding It was put into place in 1934 by FDR during the last depression to provide economic security / stability during times of economic stress. There are no conditions of a sustained unemployment rate or other such non sense in the original law it is available anytime congress chooses to enact it and administered through the states. My question is where is all the money ? Ponder this, since 1934 every worker / employer in the United States has paid into this fund current rates are 6.25 % of the first $ 7000 or about $ 563 per year per worker. that’s potentially 103 Billion a year in FUT paid into the system. So for 77 years every working American has paid into this fund yet it has been sparsely used over the decades and only by 8 – 10 % of the workforce at any one time so where is all the money ? it should be trillions with 77 years of compound interest? I think an
poorwriter
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06:47 AM on 10/29/2010
I think our government is doing a poor job tracking just how many people are out of work, and NOT by accident. Politicians don't want us to know just how bad the situation really is -- because then there would be more pushback from the electorate to stop the Party of No and get all of them to join the Party of Go.
People who have exhausted their unemployment benefits are no longer counted as unemployed. Period. We are off the rolls and, apparently, off the grid. Bailouts are for banksters and Wall Street. We are supposed to roll over and play dead, after our pockets were picked to save the rich.
Hey, let's see a show of hands. Who thinks Paris Hilton needs another tax cut?
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04:14 PM on 10/29/2010
THANK YOU...accurate and to the point!

let's push for 90% (Elvis' bracket) taxations for millionaires and you'll see how fast the Party of NO will push checks for the 99ers....to keep everybody quiet..
.hahahaha

F&F
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03:50 AM on 10/29/2010
Hang in there 99ers!
I am trying to figure out a way to help, I would run for office just to help these great Americans! Something needs to be done, the two party system has failed the middle class for the last time.
01:57 AM on 10/29/2010
I suggest to anyone who is a 99er and still looking for a job to instead look for an internship. Better yet if you can do it well before unemployment runs out.

We've hired several great candidates out of our internship program and they are some of our best employees. It may seem counter productive to work for little or no pay but you learn relevant job skills and it gives you a chance to prove yourself to a company.

Best of luck to you all.
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Tax the rich, feed the poor
04:00 AM on 10/29/2010
This is what our system of capitalism has devolved into? Since there are no paying jobs we must compete for jobs that don't even pay a wage, in the forlorn hope that one day we will be hired until we are layed off again.
The irony is that there are many people out there who wish to trade the tyranny of a bureaucratic government for the more efficient tyranny of the unregulated corporation.
06:08 PM on 10/30/2010
You don't have to compete at all. Sit around until your unemployment runs out if you like as the gap on your resume gets longer and longer and your job skills become more stale. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. We have a limited number of salaried positions and I'd prefer they go to someone who really wants to work and grow.
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06:30 AM on 11/25/2010
and people willing to take any job - retirees, college grads, and high schoolers competing for the same min wage job, people worrying about food on the table - keeps them off point to generate a storm of action. they're too busy scurrying to find a way to live, and 'grateful' for whatever they can get.
09:53 AM on 10/31/2010
Yes, you are right, but it isn't so easy. It can really break you in two. My daughter volunteered for an internship with good training skills in the courts. You still need $ to pay expenses to get there. I liked that you said that they are some of the best employees. It's true because the best of the best will do this.
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10:53 PM on 10/28/2010
A lot of people have run out of benefits, myself included. As an older worker, I examine the job market and have found out that if you want to work, you have to network. And I don't mean necessarily putting your name all over the web. You have to socialize with others within your same occupation. Especially those that are still working.

Sometimes it's not your skills that get you hired, but who you know.

Even when I was collecting unemployment, I was able to go out and find occasional day work. For me, I liked auctions. So I started going to auctions and started talking to auction people. I had a good knowledge of antiques and this was something I enjoyed as a hobby in my off time when I was working and prosperous. So then, I started finding day work with auction houses. This didn't replace the 40K a year I had made previously, but at least it was work.

I still consider myself underemployed, but the day work has kept my car on the road so I can look for regular work. At the same time, with the holidays coming, it would be the decent thing for Congress to give the 99er's another tier of benefits. Instead of doling them out week to week, it could be better to get the benefits in one lump sum. With this, many people might use the lump sum to start an independent small home based business. I would.
04:19 AM on 10/29/2010
I agree 100 percent. I escaped the USA in 1989 and was lucky enough to find an overseas job. From that experience and getting to know lots of expats I got info on other jobs that are unavailable to most people. I was always looking for another job even when having one. It got me to 5 countries and I have never been back to the USA to live since that time.

And many of the jobs were TAX FREE.

Its not always WHAT you know but WHO you know.
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glossy go
06:35 AM on 11/25/2010
really good post. i luv auctions and collecting, and of course, all the auction house books like Inside the Sotheby's-Christie's Auction House Scandal by Mason. i don't know if there is PM on here. can you tell me about what you did at auctions, and how you created a position?
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10:34 PM on 10/28/2010
I hear very few crowing about NAFT or any of the other bad trade agreements. I did see Clinton getting involved in a the Florida race apparently telling the democrat to quit so the independent can be elected. Maybe what we really need is for the people to understand the reason why we have the 99er and why they are losing unemployment benefits because of people like Bill Clinton along with the rest of the silent NAFT voters. We need to get a better class of elected official and fire those that would give a foreign nation a gift of a $98,000,000 aircraft while letting someone starve because they give all the jobs to foreigners. Why allow them to keep their jobs? Actually I hear a good one today that elected office should be like jury duty. Pull the names out of a box and let them serve two years and never let them serve again.
09:07 PM on 10/28/2010
I have made an estimate using EPI data http://www.epi.org/analysis_and_opinion/entry/policy_responses_to_long-term_unemployment/ supplied to the House Ways and Means Committee that shows the number of people exhausting benefits by year's end will be 3.3 million. There is also the fact that there are 2.5 million marginally attached that don't collect unemployment benefits, since that group is too discouraged to look for work and you need to look for work to collect benefits.

What's as bad is that according to EPI: only 67% of the unemployed workers in the U.S. were collecting unemployment insurance in the fourth quarter of 2009. That's about 5 million unemployed who don't collect any benefits at all.

The system is broken. But the real tragedy is that the corrupt banksters were able to abscond with $700 billion and through their destructive behavior millions of jobs were lost, and now millions of unemployed receive zero bailout.
03:05 PM on 10/29/2010
Thanks Mike! Good tip on that EPI piece- it's the first I've seen with ANY estimate of the problem. It's truly despicable that no comprehensive study has been done.
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06:38 AM on 11/25/2010
and what about the people who deserve benefits but are fighting their employer contests? or, the family we are trying to help had their eligible unemployment benefits taken away for 10 penalty weeks and 1 waiting week - since september 5 - they have not received a dime. an employer said in 2009 that three weeks in nov 2007 they were overpaid - so they've received no employment benefits for the last 11 weeks - called penalty weeks. they can't 'prove' otherwise because any records they had are destroyed and, anyway, they were supposed to 'protest' within 30 days. they didn't even know there had been an audit.