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Pot Advocates To Push For Legalization In 2012

First Posted: 11/04/10 05:27 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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Proponents of Proposition 19, the California ballot initiative that would have legalized recreational use and possession of small amounts of marijuana, have vowed they will get pot back on the ballot in 2012.

"We have a debate that was just heard around the world and the conversation has only begun," Dale Jones, a spokeswoman for Prop 19, said at a Wednesday news conference. "There's a seat at the table for 2012," she added. "This is not a matter of if, but when, and our leaders are already working on how to move this issue forward."

Although the measure went down to defeat on Election Day, Richard Lee, a medical marijuana entrepreneur and the author of Prop 19, noted that the effort "got more votes than Meg Whitman."

Legalizing cannabis garnered around 46 percent of the vote -- or 3,424,145 votes -- while Whitman walked away with just 3,088,070 votes. Notably, the former eBay chief executive spent $142 million in her effort to become California's next governor, while proponents of Yes on 19 had only a few million dollars at their disposal.

Steve Downing, a former deputy chief in the Los Angeles Police Department, said this year's efforts were just the first steps in a larger push for legalization, and that putting the measure on the ballot this year helped legitimize public discourse on the issue. "It became respectable and normal to discuss legalization," he said. "That conversation will continue."

Prop 19 would have made it legal for adults over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana for recreational use, and also allowed for commercial pot cultivation and the sale of marijuana at licensed establishments. Advocates note this would have injected billions of dollars into the state's beleaguered economy.

Critics have argued that allowing local governments to adopt their own policies would create a confusing patchwork of laws. That point was underscored last month when Attorney General Eric Holder vowed the Department of Justice would "vigorously enforce" federal drug laws regardless of the voters' verdict on Prop 19.

Supporters of legalization have long said that 2012 would be a good year to put pot on the ballot in California, as presidential elections drive much broader voter turnout. In 2010, turnout was especially low for the young, more liberal voters expected to support marijuana legalization.

But Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron, who serves as a senior fellow at Cato Institute, argued the campaign needs to reframe its argument to succeed. Miron suggested an emphasis on freedom and personal responsibility, telling All 24 News that "government should not interfere in the private decision to consume marijuana."

Jones argued that it was Attorney General Holder's message coupled with the scare tactics used by the opposition to California's marijuana legalization that led to Prop 19's defeat.

"Frankly the scare tactics at the last minute worked," said Jones. "We have to continue our education campaigns."

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Proponents of Proposition 19, the California ballot initiative that would have legalized recreational use and possession of small amounts of marijuana, have vowed they will get pot back on the ballot ...
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dawn9476
05:16 PM on 11/09/2010
The legalization of pot may be on the Ballot in Massachusetts. Not sure yet about legalizing but I up for anything on the ballot that brings even more young people out in 2012 and helps Dems win back the GOP senate seat in MA.
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Daniel Malo
04:57 PM on 11/08/2010
gangs ♥ prohibition

http://www.facebook.com/free.the.leaf
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J0E1
Phil Hill 2012
04:02 PM on 11/08/2010
Comments: 421... damn, just missed it lol.
02:02 AM on 11/08/2010
Maybe legalization is what the Mayans were talking about in 2012. Not the end of the world but the end of corrupt policies. Nah, corruption is endless and will only continue to sway the uninformed on voting for bad ideas.
02:22 PM on 11/08/2010
Perhaps they were talking about the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. I'm sure most hippies would agree that ganja would be legal in the Age of Aquarius.
01:10 AM on 11/08/2010
Legalize pot now!
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Angel R1240
Progressive for REAL change
10:23 PM on 11/07/2010
I would vote in favor of legalizing pot because how many people we put in jail every year and how much money we spend to keep these people in jail is ridiculous. If legalizing pot is on the ballot in New Jersey in 2012 I would vote yes. I think it's the right thing to do.
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souroil
Liberaltarian
08:27 PM on 11/07/2010
There's 2 million absentee and provisional ballots still being counted. Many of them are from Los Angeles and San Diego. If Prop 19 somehow got 60% of those remaining votes over the next few weeks of counting, it could still win.... I know I'm dreaming.
01:53 PM on 11/05/2010
imagine getting high by being kind to other people, it happens. http://www.stopoxy.com
07:34 AM on 11/05/2010
The fact is that Marijuana is much less harmfull than any other drug out there! that including alcohol and painpils! Crime will also most likely decline if marijuana is legalised, you can't argu with that! I can't see how anybody can be against legalising. there is noting bad about marijuana, you can't get addicted, you can't die of overdose (you can die of overdose by every other drug!). the only once who have died of marijuana has been killed in crimes related to marijuana! and that will be gone if legalised!
11:17 PM on 11/04/2010
Needs some solid studies on health impacts/benefits as well as clearer discussions on likely scenario regarding crime and the economic and social impact of reducing the burden on courts and prisons in America. Where will the criminals shift their business if this element of the drug market becomes mainstream? Compared to cybercrime, I suspect that drugs is a diminishing part of the crime portfolio anyway. Then again, our second amendment rights might be eroded unless drug smugglers demand in guns is reduced too.

Oh well, with the Republicans in control the next 2 years, at least 4% more of the California population will either change their vote or have a medical license anyway.
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01:23 AM on 11/05/2010
Wrong, wrong, wrong; the cartels won't be able to replace it with anything -- they will suffer much attrition due to infighting over a smaller pie; if you think drugs are diminishing, I have a bridge to sell you; screw your second amendment rights.

So even though you think it needs more study, etc, you realize that people can get doctors recommendations easily, enabling them to possess much more than one ounce. If people already have access, then the only reason to keep it illegal is to make money hand over fist on the backs of patients and faux-patients alike, and to prop up the black market with a gray market in which participants can launder money under the guise of protecting the growers from prosecution.

How clueless, fiscally irresponsible, and mean can you be? Are you a grower, a cop, a lawyer, a prison guard, or a know-it-all teabagger who pulls faux-facts out of his butt? How does continuing marijuana prohibition benefit you?

Wrong again!
10:59 PM on 11/04/2010
People say that grower's are against it - not true. No point. You can't lower the costs it takes to produce and harvest it so it will always be expensive. Anyways, forget Prop 19. Let's go for a repeal of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937!
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RevRayGreen
Here to make cannabis legal worldwide again
11:01 PM on 11/04/2010
#16 F&f
02:36 AM on 11/05/2010
PS: It is very easy to make those 99, 396 or 594 for that matter and get away w/ it. "I planted one plant per bed your honor" I say to the judge as I plead stupid.
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01:52 AM on 11/05/2010
Growers are against it because they won't be able to make the easily laundered easy money when their 99 plant gardens -- which require thousands of dollars per month in electric bills for the seemingly few ethical growers who actually pay for it -- face competition from legally sanctioned large scale producers -- who don't have to hide production and can grow outdoors in the abundant California sun.

Most of them are careful not to admit it to the customers they fleece, but they are against it, because they will have to go above ground -- which might be difficult for those who have made hundreds of thousands or even millions of unreported dollars since prop 215 passed in 1996.

It's unrealistic to try for federal legalization first, as there isn't enough support for it nationally. The prohibition of alcohol was repealed after a few states successfully legalized it on their own and the rest of the country wanted it, so the feds allowed beer and wine first, then everything else soon thereafter. This is the way it will happen with pot.
02:32 AM on 11/05/2010
If you were a grower, then you would no there is no competition as the demand is national and most growing is in California.

Legalization nationwide is not unrealistic. People were saying the same thing about 'don't ask, don't tell' in '04 and now most the country is for it. California's problem is Mexico. Mexican gangster's have too much influence because it is those that are growing low quality that stand to lose the most. Hell, they stand to lose it all. Once it becomes legalized, low quality will no longer be grown, or much of the criminal element involved.
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ver1tas
One nation under surveillance.
10:43 PM on 11/04/2010
Whooohooo whatever it takes!
Olethea
Life may be sweeter for this- I don't know.
10:17 PM on 11/04/2010
Hmm...well the people voted it down. But honestly, what's the big deal? If alcohol is legal, pot should be legal as well. I honestly don't see the difference.
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02:25 AM on 11/05/2010
The difference is that alcohol is much more harmful than pot. Indeed, a study just came out which said that alcohol is worse than heroin. People voted it down because they don't understand how harmless it is; because evil eric holder led people to believe that federal law would render it moot -- despite the fact that California law is separate from federal law and there is no law requiring California to enforce all federal laws; because the decimator signed a bill making posession an infraction, misleading sheeple into believing that pot is almost legal, so there would be no need for prop 19; and because the press published hit piece after lying hit piece for the opposition, with no rebuttal from the pro prop 19 side. The only place one could find unbiased reporting of it was on blogs like kos and huffpo.

Thanks to the easily manipulated voters in California, the black market will continue to flourish. Even though I abhor the black market, I abhor the gouging dispensaries even more. I vow to save money and buy all my pot on the black market from now on. No more 10% state sales tax plus 2.5% city pot tax! I'm going underground in protest!

Muahahahaha!

So stick that in your bongs and rip it, eric holder, dianne feinstein, lee baca, and all you selfish dopes who voted to perpetuate the drug war and the black market!
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RevRayGreen
Here to make cannabis legal worldwide again
10:00 PM on 11/04/2010
Our founding fathers are rolling around in their graves at cannabis prohibition.
02:26 PM on 11/08/2010
Amen to that. Washington and Jefferson grew hemp.
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gfs5541
09:40 PM on 11/04/2010
Weed Legalization won't happen. It didn't happen with Prop 19 and it won't happen the next time.
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RevRayGreen
Here to make cannabis legal worldwide again
09:59 PM on 11/04/2010
see Colorado, home of the first arrest for Marijuana. Colorado will be the first state to do the right thing,ending 70 years of injustice.

10/5/1937 DENVER Sam Caldwell, sentenced 4 years in Leavenworth for selling two joints. Sam died in prison from of all things stomach cancer.
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Tewhiti
For the people, not for the dollar.
02:51 PM on 11/06/2010
gfs: Why are you being such a wet blanket? Seriously, I don't understand what possesses people to inject such inflammatory and knowingly unprovable statements into a dialog regarding one of the most important issues of our time.
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gfs5541
04:51 PM on 11/08/2010
I'm only a wet blanket if you're high! ;)