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Jobless Claims Hit Four-Month Low

CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER   11/10/10 12:36 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — Fewer people applied for unemployment aid last week, the third drop in four weeks and a sign that more employers are hiring while layoffs are falling.

If the decline continues, it could signal more hiring in the near future. The report comes after the Labor Department said last week that private employers in October added the most jobs in six months.

First-time applications for unemployment benefits fell 24,000 last week to a seasonally adjusted 435,000, the Labor Department said Wednesday. Wall Street economists had expected a smaller decline.

The four-week average of applications, a less volatile gauge, fell 10,000 to 446,500. That's the lowest level for the average since the week that ended Sept. 13, 2008 – just before the financial crisis intensified with the collapse of Lehman Brothers. Still, weekly applications would need to fall below 425,000 to indicate that hiring is picking up significantly, economists say.

Economists were heartened by the figures.

The report is "encouraging" and "in line with the view that the labor market and overall economy are starting to strengthen," said Daniel Silver, an economist at JPMorgan Chase.

Still, economists stressed that the decline would need to continue for several more weeks to show that employers are growing steadily more confident about hiring. Mark Vitner, an economist at Wells Fargo, said that if the drop in claims endures, net job gains could rise from this year's average of 90,000 a month to 140,000 next year.

Yet even that's barely enough to keep up with population growth. The economy needs to create at least 300,000 net jobs a month to make a major dent in the unemployment rate, now at 9.6 percent.

The weekly jobless claims figures closely track layoffs, which have fallen sharply in the past year. A Labor Department report Tuesday showed that private sector layoffs have fallen to a four-year low. And small businesses, on average, are no longer cutting their work forces, according to a separate survey released Tuesday by the National Federation of Independent Business.

Separately, the trade deficit narrowed in September by 5.3 percent to $44 billion in September as imports retreated slightly while exports edged higher.

Rising sales of American airplanes and industrial machinery helped push exports to $154.1 billion in September. That's the highest level of exports in two years.

Still, imports exceed exports by a wide margin even though they fell 1 percent last month to $198.1 billion. And the trade gap through the first nine months of this year remains 40 percent wider than it was a year ago.

Weekly first-time applications for unemployment aid are now at their lowest level since early July, when they were temporarily lowered by the July 4 holiday. Last week's figures are also the second-lowest this year.

Applications fell partly because the weather has been relatively warm so far this fall, the Labor Department said. Construction and manufacturing firms haven't temporarily laid off as many workers due to cold weather as they have in the past.

Applications have previously dropped sharply this year, but have always bounced back. They have fluctuated around 450,000 for most of this year, after falling last year from about 600,000 when the recession ended in June 2009.

Some companies are hiring new workers, despite the slow economy. US Airways said Monday that it plans to hire 500 flight attendants and pilots next year, mostly to cover planned retirements and attrition. The jobs will initially be offered to former employees laid off during the downturn.

The number of people continuing to claim unemployment aid fell by 86,000 to 4.3 million last week, the department said. But that doesn't include millions of additional people on extended unemployment programs that were set up during the recession.

Including the emergency programs, about 8.6 million people received jobless aid in the week that ended Oct. 23, the latest data available. That's down by about 300,000 from a week earlier.

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WASHINGTON — Fewer people applied for unemployment aid last week, the third drop in four weeks and a sign that more employers are hiring while layoffs are falling. If the decline continues, it ...
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12:05 AM on 11/19/2010
Chipotle?LOL......yeah that will pay my mortgage and car payment. It's going to get worse.
07:24 PM on 11/17/2010
This is NOT a sign of hiring....it is merely the continuation of people dropping off the unemployed count because they have given up looking, run out of looking options, run out of extended extended unemployment.
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Timma
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11:05 AM on 11/11/2010
Anytime a politicians lips are moving they're lying. Sadly the House and Senate believe in fact you CAN fool all of the people all of the time. And they'll be proven correct if we continue to act as though the information we receive is valid. Facts do not tell the real story. Never have never will.
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10:47 PM on 11/10/2010
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts11082010.html
Paul Craig Roberts: Phantom Jobs

"If we cannot trust what the government tells us about weapons of mass destruction, terrorist events, and the reasons for its wars and bailouts, can we trust the government’s statement last Friday that the US economy gained 151,000 payroll jobs during October?

Apparently not. After examining the government’s report, statistician John Williams (shadowstats.com) reported that the jobs were “phantom jobs” created by “concurrent seasonal factor adjustments.” In other words, the 151,000 jobs cannot be found in the unadjusted underlying data. The jobs were the product of seasonal adjustments concocted by the BLS.

As usual, the financial press did no investigation and simply reported the number handed to the media by the government.

The relevant information, the information that you need to know, is that the level of payroll employment today is below the level of 10 years ago. A smaller number of Americans are employed right now than were employed a decade ago.

Think about what that means. We have had a decade of work force growth from youngsters reaching working age and from immigration, legal and illegal, but there are fewer jobs available to accommodate a decade of work force entrants than before the decade began..."
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11:06 PM on 11/10/2010
http://www­.counterpu­nch.org/ro­berts11082­010.html
Paul Craig Roberts: Phantom Jobs

"...In short, there is no employment data, and none in the works, unless gimmicked, that supports the recovery myth. The US rate of unemployment, if measured according to the methodology used in 1980, is 22.5%. Even the government’s broader measure of unemployment stands at 17%. The 9.6% reported rate is a concocted measure that does not include discouraged workers who have been unable to find a job after 6 months and workers who who want full time jobs but can only find part-time work.

Another fact that is seldom, if ever, reported, is that the payroll jobs data reports the number of jobs, not the number of people with jobs. Some people hold two jobs; thus, the payroll report does not give the number of employed people.

The BLS household survey measures the number of people with jobs. The same October that reported 151,000 new payroll jobs reported, according to the household survey, a loss of 330,000 jobs..."
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08:31 PM on 11/10/2010
Google announced 10 percent pay raise today for all employees. Labor shortage to come. Negotiate the best deal for yourselves.
07:29 PM on 11/10/2010
Ummm that's a picture of a Chipotle sign, not a Fortune 500 Company. I think people are losing sight of WHAT KINDS of jobs being created.
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
06:22 PM on 11/10/2010
happy days are here again
we can make you believe
Christmas cheer again
to get you to spend
and then
bye bye job again
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
06:20 PM on 11/10/2010
Businesses are temporarily hiring because they expect this Christmas to be better than the last two. Even news shows are pushing Christmas. If it wasn't for this massively commercial holiday what would businesses do? I'm not buying a thing.
03:57 PM on 11/10/2010
Sorry - I am not drinking the kool aid on this one -

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
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10:57 PM on 11/10/2010
Good for you, majorbuzz...

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff11092010.html
Dave Lindorff: BS From the BLS

"Many Americans simply assume that the government and politicians lie when they are talking about things like cutting taxes, or eliminating waste. But somehow, we tend to believe official government reports about things like economic “growth” or unemployment rates, or even cost-of-living increases.

The truth, sadly, is that the government is lying about these things too.

Take jobs and unemployment. Right after the election, the Obama administration’s Bureau of Labor Statistics proudly trumpeted that the economy had added 151,000 new jobs in October. President Obama, about to head off to India, land, where many American jobs have moved for good, made it sound like maybe the American economy had finally turned a corner. The news led to a jump in the stock market and everyone breathed a sigh of relief, because finally, we had a number that was greater than the 100,000 new jobs that we have been repeatedly told are needed “just to keep pace with the new workers who join the labor force every month.”

Only the number is a fraud. It turns out that this job number is a fictional construct created by BLS statisticians who are using outdated estimates for the number of new small businesses supposedly created every month, and also outdated estimates for the number of small businesses that go bankrupt every month..."
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03:54 PM on 11/10/2010
"Fewer people applied for unemployment aid last week, the third drop in four weeks..." . Doesn't this just mean that thousands have exhausted benefits for Unemployment?
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deepintheheartoftejas
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04:11 PM on 11/10/2010
No, these are first-time applications.
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OJohnny
06:49 PM on 11/10/2010
Here is whats happening. This last round of employment ext required that you submitted where you looked (where when and who) for work 6 weeks ago.

Those that did not keep perfect records at a time when they weren't even asking for them are being denied.

I know of a few cases where records stored in PC's were lost because of a crash or service has had to be discontinued. There are a lot of people that are in a terrible way who could receive benefits but for crazy reasons like this have been cut off. There are temp jobs now for Christmas but after the season unemployment numbers are going to fly sky high.
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cassie reinara
03:50 PM on 11/10/2010
If the jobs picture is really improving, why is the unemployment rate remaining at 9.6-9.7%? Because unemployed people's benefits are running out, so they are no longer considered unemployed based on how the government calculates the labor numbers. The real unemployment rate is far higher than official rate. Some people estimate it to be around ~17-19%.
03:32 PM on 11/10/2010
That picture is worth a thousand words. The only jobs available are at fast food chains and retail stores. Middle class can't survive on $7.25 hr.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
04:07 PM on 11/10/2010
Cue the 'take whatever job is available morons'.
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OJohnny
06:53 PM on 11/10/2010
Why don't you trade your job for the 7.25 per hr job your saying they should take. Some of these jobs cost more to work than they pay.
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10:54 PM on 11/10/2010
Waiters and waitresses only get $ 2.13 in most states, plus tips.
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guveqzero
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02:58 PM on 11/10/2010
Not much different than last year. Pretty low standards and expectations.
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mwsomerset
This is not the life I ordered.
01:22 PM on 11/10/2010
The bottom line for me is....All jobs in America should be at a living wage. People should not have to work 16 hours a day (at two jobs) just to have a place to live, food to eat and clothes to wear. I don't have a problem with people making lots of money....but when they are making it at the expense of their workers...I do have a problem. Of course...if all the workers are paid a living wage...then the price of EVERYTHING will go up and then the people who can afford to actually buy something other than pay rent, food and clothes...will complain. So the gov't steps in to help the working poor and then the people who do make a living wage complain of all the "free loaders' even though this action by the gov't is keeping goods and services at a lower cost for them....it's a vicious cycle.
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BMcCue7
I'm Buddy McCue (and you're not.)
01:47 PM on 11/10/2010
I agree. Anyone who works full time should be able to have enough to eat, shelter, and the basics of human existence and dignity.

Besides, it's one of the rights listed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, of which the United States is a signatory nation. Article 23, section 3 states:

"Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection."
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
01:51 PM on 11/10/2010
We're all supposed to compete with Communist China.

They're going to make life so hard, that people will be happy to have ANY job.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
01:52 PM on 11/10/2010
They'll bring out economists to explain why its just not possible.

The same economists that justified bailing out Wall Street.
01:13 PM on 11/10/2010
And the Dow Jones is back over 11,000