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Time Is Running Out For DADT Repeal, Pentagon Study Could Help

First Posted: 11/10/10 10:44 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- Time is running out to repeal the Pentagon's Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) policy, with Republicans poised to take control of the House and increase their power in the Senate -- which will make repealing the ban even more difficult.

Meanwhile Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin is under pressure from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the chairman and ranking member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, to introduce a revised version of the defense bill that would remove the provision repealing DADT.

The White House, gay rights advocates and Senate Democrats -- including House Majority Leader Harry Reid -- are pushing Levin to proceed forward with a bill that includes language to repeal the ban on gays openly serving in the military.

A decision is expected to be reached before the start of the Senate's lame-duck session.

Reid has been outspoken in his support for repealing the measure, but "he, of course, can't do it alone," his spokesman Jim Manley told The Washington Post.

In September, Republicans voted down a motion to proceed to debate after Reid added an immigration measure to the defense bill and prohibited Republicans from adding amendments of their own.

But with the Pentagon preparing to release its report on the effects of repealing DADT, top Senate Democrats may find themselves in a better position to repeal the ban, according to senior members of a progressive think tank.

In a conference call on Tuesday, Winnie Stachelberg, the senior vice president for external affairs at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, told reporters that the liberal think tank has identified ten senators who have said they might be willing to vote for repeal given the chance to review the Pentagon reports.

"They want to take a look at what the study says, and hear from the troops and military leaders before deciding," said Stachelberg.

That sentiment is echoed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who told reporters traveling with him to Australia this weekend that he would like to see Congress take action after the Pentagon releases its report. "I would like to see the repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' but I'm not sure what the prospects for that are," he added. "We'll just have to see."

Senators who've claimed their ultimate decision will rest on the Pentagon report include Sens. Brown, Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), George Voinovich (R-Ohio) and Jim Webb (D-Va.), as well as Senator-elect Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) and Senator-elect Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). Though the fact that McCain is the very member in negotiations with Levin to strip the ban from the defense bill calls the validity of Stachelberg's list into question.

Other senators are vocally supporting repeal of DADT, but it's not clear their support will be enough.

On Tuesday, Democratic Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Mark Udall of Colorado, along with Connecticut Independent Joe Lieberman, called on Congress to "act immediately" and "pass a defense authorization bill and repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' during the lame duck session."

And on Monday the Obama administration reiterated its support for repealing the ban as well. "The White House opposes any effort to strip 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' from the National Defense Authorization Act," White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer said in a statement. "It's not whether" the ban will end, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told Huffpost's Sam Stein, "but how."

The Pentagon report is scheduled to land on Gates's desk on December 1.

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WASHINGTON -- Time is running out to repeal the Pentagon's Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) policy, with Republicans poised to take control of the House and increase their power in the Senate -- which will...
WASHINGTON -- Time is running out to repeal the Pentagon's Don't Ask Don't Tell (DADT) policy, with Republicans poised to take control of the House and increase their power in the Senate -- which will...
 
 
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DrBlunt
Telling it like it is....
06:18 AM on 11/16/2010
This is a sad state of affairs!

I still love my country; but it is a somewhat phuckkked up country...

Land of the free (Boo$hit) and the home of the brave (more Boo$hit!.)
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Scott Zwartz
12:13 AM on 11/11/2010
DADT is not a matter for Congress. DADT is an unconstitutional infringement on Liberty , see Lawrence v Texas US Supreme Court 2003

Obama could end DADT today by dropping the appeal and that would be a constitutional remedy to a constitutional wrong. By pretending that DADT is for Congress to repeal, Obama is denying that Gays have the inalienable and constitutional right to Liberty.

According to Obama, we only get what rights others wish to give or withhold. According to Obama he may think we can be in the military if others do not object, but we most certainly do not have the liberty to marry whom we love.
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MarkInEugene
A blasphemy a day keeps the deities away.
01:00 PM on 11/13/2010
smart comments.
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Jdaddy1951
10:58 PM on 11/10/2010
Every day that DADT lingers on, President Obama loses more support with the gay community.
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Turtlenews
09:30 PM on 11/10/2010
Where are the Big Protests ? Where is the Public Outrage ? Why is Senator Levin not been denounced and criticized for working with John McCain to strip DADT out of the bill. .Why is Levin not standing up to McCain?. Why have people not been organizing in mass to take to the streets in protest? i think DADT should remain in the Military Spending Bill. If it does not pass . There will be no spending for the military until DADT is passed
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
09:21 PM on 11/10/2010
END THIS DICRIMANTORY HATE FILLED RULING NOW!
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MarkInEugene
A blasphemy a day keeps the deities away.
08:51 PM on 11/10/2010
It needs to be said. We are a pathetic people who are manufacturing the struggle in this debate! How ludicrous, how insane we are over such a inconsequential fake issue!! As if life doesn't provide us with enough challenges, we've got to create more strife amongst ourselves, by pandering to our worst fears and prejudice over nothing more than a single human trait. I am so disgusted and disillusioned by the atrocious leadership on this subject, particularly by narrow-minded, deeply ignorant men like John McCain. Where are our true elders in this society?

This will be history one day and this will look like utter foolishness one day. Future generations will look at McCain perplexed by his hatred and fear, because in the more enlightened society they will live in, we will have a more grown-up attitude and understanding toward human sexuality.

This is just so idiotic and just plain stupid! My apologies to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters for this continued harassment and inanity!
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DrBlunt
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06:13 AM on 11/16/2010
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
07:39 PM on 11/10/2010
SLDN Launches Veterans Day Video Tribute; Continues National Push On U.S. Senate

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), a national, legal services and policy organization dedicated to ending “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (DADT), launched its Veterans Day Video Tribute today to recognize and honor all veterans – past and present, LGBT and straight – for their service in our nation’s armed forces.
[article: http://www.sldn.org/news/archives/sldn-launches-veterans-day-video-tribute-continues-national-push-on-u.s.-se/]

VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LiftTheBan#p/a/u/0/IQC8Dnqnfac

I contributed the "Montana" photo at 1:45 into the video.
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LLeGrande
An Increasingly Disgusted Liberal Democrat.
02:34 PM on 11/10/2010
Time is not running out; Time has run out.

This test was made in the Senate prior to election day. It was in a military funding bill. It failed the vote. Why? Because repeal of DADT was in it.

Gay America should never have counted on the Democratic Party to start bringing our gay brothers out of second-class citizenship status. Democrats do NOT support gay rights. They just want money from gays, while they dance around the subject.

DADT and DOMA were put in place during a Democratic Administration - gifts from President Bill Clinton.

I have said on multiple occasions that it will be the Judicial Branch which brings these laws of discrimination to come tumbling down.

I'm now wrong about that. The Iowa Supreme Court interpreted the Iowa State Constitution, and found for non-discriminatory gay marriage. In this election sequence, all three of the judges who were up for retention (Q: give another term to this judge? A: yes or no) were voted out of office, compliments of the NOW and its membership of gay bashers.
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MCWAY
02:44 PM on 11/10/2010
Am I reading that correctly? The NOW (National Organization of Women) helped vote out the judged that legalized gay "marriage" in Iowa?
 
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LLeGrande
An Increasingly Disgusted Liberal Democrat.
04:38 PM on 11/10/2010
Thank you for catching my error.

Not the National Organization of Women (NOW)!

I meant the NOM - The National Organization for Marriage. It was founded to diminish gay rights.
01:43 PM on 11/10/2010
If it doesn't happen, I think all gay military service men and women need to file their papers and walk out. If the military does not want them like they are and to live a lie, they should just walk.
The only problem is that there are no jobs for them to go to and that is the sad part.
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DrBlunt
Telling it like it is....
06:15 AM on 11/16/2010
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01:00 PM on 11/10/2010
John Wayne must be spinning in his grave at the very thought of sharing a shower with anyone except other jocks. . .
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
07:41 PM on 11/10/2010
Gay men are "other jocks."
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
08:09 PM on 11/10/2010
"Wayne co-starred with Rock Hudson in The Undefeated (1969), even though he knew of the actor's homosexuality. In this Civil War epic, the champion of right-wing political conservatism worked well with and even became good friends with Hudson."
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RonNYC
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12:40 PM on 11/10/2010
Obama needs to grow a pair and get this done pronto or he will be completely finished with the LGBT community.
01:10 PM on 11/10/2010
I guess the LGBT community forgot for 8 years to demand that George Bush "grow a pair".
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
07:43 PM on 11/10/2010
The activism didn't start two years ago. Overall, it started generations ago. On DADT it started BEFORE DADT was being crafted.

I guess you forgot that there is historical information available to all who care to rely on knowledge and facts.
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RM Greer
08:14 PM on 11/10/2010
HAHAHAHAHA. Now, we knew what a waste of our time and our money that would be. That ........ doesn't even know what gay means, other than a good ole time drinking the night away. We are not idi_ots to throw time and money on (same fourth word of this sentence).
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RatPack78
I enjoy playing devil's advocate.
12:38 PM on 11/10/2010
The clock is ticking on the Obama administration as well. If he can't get DADT repeal passed (which the vast majority of Americans support) then I think he can kiss a second term goodbye.
01:11 PM on 11/10/2010
How much time are you willing to give a Republican President to repeal DADT? I know that it must be more than 8 years, because that is how much time Bush had to repeal it and he did not.
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RatPack78
I enjoy playing devil's advocate.
11:37 PM on 11/10/2010
Yeah, but Obama is supposedly on our side. How much time SHOULD it take to accomplish an extremely popular repeal?
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Jim Neal
Candidate US Senate 2008. Chapel Hill, NC.
12:15 PM on 11/10/2010
This will pose the first major test of the President's leadership post-midterms. I'll be talking a lot about that L Factor in the year ahead. I believe that if the President fails to fight back and stand on principle, abandon trite commitments to process over progress then his political future is in doubt.

The window for action in the lame duck session is tight: from Dec 1st when the Pentagon report is released and ~ Dec. 15th when the Senate goes into recess.

Well-articulated post Lucia.
12:12 PM on 11/10/2010
The time IS running out. As the talented Ms. Graves concisely points out, it is now or never for the Obama administration. I eagerly await the release of the Pentagons report, and Ms. Graves equally insightful analysis of that report.
01:13 PM on 11/10/2010
I am amazed that the gay community is blaming Obama for not repealing DADT in less than two years of being in office and Bush had eight years and was not pressured. I truly do not understand.
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MCWAY
02:46 PM on 11/10/2010
It's simple. Bush NEVER campaigned or promised to repeal DADT. Obama did.
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
07:47 PM on 11/10/2010
The fight for gay equality is generations old. With respect to the right to serve, that battle was going on when the military was banning gays out of hand, before the DADT "compromise". It was also going on as DADT was made into law, and it has continued steadily ever since. It is in the news more now because repeal seemed possible under Obama.
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12:06 PM on 11/10/2010
@dreffein who posted:
You are not the USMC. And if by some chance you're currently enlisted, you're probably off committing attrocities against someone who doesn't measure up to your standards.
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The atrocities I commited where against Panamanians which did not meet up to my standards