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Debt Commission Member Rejects Co-Chairs' 'Right-Leaning Plan'

First Posted: 11/11/10 04:10 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- The leaders of President Obama's debt commission drew national ire Wednesday for proposing sweeping cuts to federal programs, including Social Security. In an interview with The Huffington Post on Wednesday night, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), one of 18 members of the commission, criticized what she described as a "right-leaning plan" from the panel's two co-chairmen, former Bill Clinton adviser Erskine Bowles and former senator Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.).

"As far as I'm concerned the proposal is dead on arrival and should be soundly rejected," Schakowsky told HuffPost in an after-hours phone call. There are a number of ways to achieve fiscal solvency, she said, without taking it out of the hides of Social Security beneficiaries.

Schakowsky acknowledged that tough choices must be made to tame the country's soaring deficit but said the proposed reduction in Social Security benefits and broad spending cuts for many federal operations are out of the question.

Simpson and Bowles said their report was only intended to incite discussion, while Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R - Texas) called it intentionally "provocative."

"It's an impractical beginning," said Schakowsky of the Bowles-Simpson proposal, which would, among other things, raise the retirement age and result in higher taxes for millions of middle-class Americans. "It's important to say what should not be on the table," she said, adding that the deficit should not be paid off by Americans who are already hurting:

"While I think everyone on the commission agrees that we're on an unsustainable path, we cannot be putting the deficit or the debt on the backs of ordinary people, particularly senior citizens. When we started this commission we said nothing is going to be done to benefits for current beneficiaries. Lo and behold, the proposal by the two co-chairs would lower the cost-of-living adjustment for all beneficiaries, something that would compound over the years to significantly lower the benefit for future beneficiaries. They're talking about raising the retirement age. None of the offsets they talk about would be helping lower income seniors. According to the experts, this proposal would put more elderly people into poverty, not fewer. And that is just a nonstarter.

Liberals have long complained that the commission is heavy on conservatives and likely to favor large cuts to social programs. (Indeed, Simpson furthered that perception when, in an email sent to the executive director of National Older Women's League this summer, he infamously compared Social Security to "a milk cow with 310 million tits.")

That political makeup aside, the panel would need 14 of its 18 members to agree on a plan before it can receive an up or down vote from Congress.

If public opinion is any barometer, that looks to be a long-shot. Schakowsky explains:

If the idea is that we have to come up with a proposal that gets us all the way to primary budget balance by 2015, and that we all can agree on how to do that - I'm skeptical of that. But I think we can make some progress in terms of reducing the debt over the next 20 years. And again, I think there are a number of things that we ought to be able to agree on, but I think it may be a more modest proposal.

Despite being "disappointed" by the proposal put forth by the chairmen, there are a number of areas where the Congresswoman believes the commission can agree.

"Everybody seems to be on the same page or a similar page when it comes to cuts in defense spending and some of the tax expenditures like outsourcing jobs overseas," she said. "But I think right now when we're at the highest gap between rich and poor in the United States of America since 1928, we have to steer absolutely clear of proposals that make that gap even larger."

(Indeed data from the Congressional Budget Office shows that the gap between the wealthiest Americans and middle- and working-class Americans has more than tripled in recent decades.)

The chairmen, meanwhile, deflect criticism with a universal disclaimer.

"We're not asking anybody to vote for this plan," said Bowles at the commission's unveiling on Capitol Hill Wednesday. "This plan is a starting point. It represents only Al and my thinking and no one else's. We have run it by the president's advisees. I think every member of the commission today said they thought it was a serious plan."

The New York Times's Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman poked fun at that statement Wednesday, when he argued in a post titled "Unserious People" that since rich people live longer, if the retirement age is raised, those who make the least will be paying for those who make the most.

Obama, predictably, has not taken a formal position on the proposal, stressing instead the need to listen to all perspectives.

"The only way to make those tough choices historically has been if both parties are willing to move forward together," he told reporters at a late-night news conference in Asia. "And so before anybody starts shooting down proposals, I think we need to listen, we need to gather up all the facts. I think we have to be straight with the American people."

Schakowsky said she hasn't ruled out compromise, but added that given the time constraints, she's "not too optimistic about a comprehensive plan."

She took to MSNBC last night to elaborate:

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johndpieper 07:22 PM on 11/11/2010
You deficit hawks know nothing about deficit spending. Since the beginning of our country, one of the best tools the govt has is the ability to deficit spend . It is the best tool available to govts. and  has always been used this way. Once the economy gets stronger, you have natural tax influx that takes care of large parts of the  deficit automatically.

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05:21 AM on 11/23/2010
In my opinion, the so-called "majority" report of the President's "bi-partisan" Debt Commission is evidence of the two greatest threats to our democracy and a decent standard of living for most Americans - Neo Conservatism and Neo Liberalism. Thank God there are still a few voices like Rep. Jan Schakowsky who seek economic justice for working and most middle class families in America.
11:00 AM on 11/14/2010
This is an extremely important issue. I believe that the plan for debt reduction should come up for a "special election vote by the people". Our congress and Senate has proven that they cannot be trusted not to be bribed or conjoled. The PEOPLE should decide what is going to cut and whether or not taxes get raised. Congress and Senate are not concerned about American citizens they are only concerned about thier own pitiful job and benefits and perks. Let the people decide this one.
11:36 AM on 11/13/2010
"That political makeup aside, the panel would need 14 of its 18 members to agree on a plan before it can receive an up or down vote from Congress."
Ah, why is a "commission" supposed to come up with law? This is as good as lobbyists our think tanks writing legislation. I thought we had representatives to do this. Are the House and Senate too busy to work on law? Can I be on the Commission? And, how can Simpson get away with his comment? Obama should have kicked him off just for that. But, I don't think he picked him. But, let's hope people like this Rep. Shakowsky say firm, and do not get offered a big bunch of $$ for their districts to swing their votes.
11:07 PM on 11/12/2010
Could we start our own commission? A "people's commission?"
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
02:59 AM on 11/13/2010
Hear! Hear!
10:40 PM on 11/12/2010
Well, yes he did promise a Public Option. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/518/create-public-option-health-plan-new-national-heal/Barack Obama Campaign Promise No. 518: Promise Broken.
Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange.
"The exchange will require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new public plan and meet the same standards for quality and efficiency."
10:31 PM on 11/12/2010
Prof. Krugman has chimed in with his opinion of the commission:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1&hp
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astraia
recall scott walker
03:10 PM on 11/12/2010
"As far as I'm concerned the proposal is dead on arrival and should be soundly rejected,"

that's exactly what i wanted to hear. thank you rep. jan schakowsky for a speedyresponse to the wingnuts' outlandish recommendations.
11:50 AM on 11/12/2010
"Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), one of 18 members of the commission, criticized what she described as a 'right-leaning plan'"

And this is why we lose: Democrats try to make it illegal for health insurance companies to kick you out for getting sick, and they're branded nazi-socialist-communist-fascist-Kenyan-anticolonialists; and Republicans try to eliminate every single social program in the country and the response is that it's "a right-leaning plan."
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Cathy Brabant
10:48 AM on 11/12/2010
It just amazes me that since folks aren't working and many do not have health care, there are those who want to destroy all the safety nets put in place. When we are kicked to the curb, it's onto the streets for millions of us. I just keep thinking that folks like this do not look at the conquences of what they propose.
10:43 AM on 11/12/2010
The Grand Old Spending Party: How Republicans Became Big Spenders

by Stephen Slivinski

President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn’t cut enough spending to change his place in history, either.

Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush’s first term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5 percent of GDP on Clinton’s last day in office to 20.3 percent by the end of Bush’s first term.

Stephen Slivinski is director of budget studies at the Cato Institute.

The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.

Teapartylady read it and weep. Cato isn't a liberal organzation.
10:32 AM on 11/12/2010
It pains me to say this as a liberal, but if they know programs like Social Security will not survive, I would like to see the programs ended sooner rather than later.

The thought that I will pay into SS my entire life only to have it taken from me at the end really angers me. I'd rather not have to pay into a program at all if it's never going to be there for me as a social safety net when I am older.

The younger people already have enough mess to clean up. We have enough debt from past generations we will have to pay for. Don't burden us even more by making us pay into SS our entire lives, then taking that money away from us later.

But I'm sure, like most policies, the younger generations will be ignored because anyone under 18 cannot vote. The policies will be shaped to benefit the largest voting blocs, and not the country as a whole.
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doctorkosan
PhD Chem E, HBS
10:45 AM on 11/12/2010
Social Security is not in jeopardy and does not contribute to the deficit. That rhetoric is part of the fear campaign, do not succumb to it. It simply needs some small tinkering such as extend the tax to all income. Have a means test - Bill Gates and Warren Buffett do not need it.
10:49 AM on 11/12/2010
I agree in general about Social Security, but with the way our politics work today, I don't hold out hope for intelligent solutions like extra taxes on billionaires or reduced defense spending.

I mean, Dems held the Senate, White House, and House, and they couldn't even revoke the Bush tax cuts.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but I only see things getting worse with unlimited corporate money now part of our politics. That to me ensures the billionaires will never have their taxes raised and the military industrial complex will only grow stronger.
10:17 AM on 11/12/2010
"Right-leaning"? LEANING?! This plan is so far to the right it has slipped off the right edge and is hanging by it's fingernails.
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Christine Gallo
America, best democracy corporations can buy
10:14 AM on 11/12/2010
Rep Schakowsky made some good points in her interview yesterday on MSNBC when addressing cuts to Medicare and Social Security. She spoke to the fact that the country is in a depression because of the greed of Wall Street bankers; despite taking people's pensions, savings, homes, and jobs have suffered no consequences. On the other hand, she feels it is very unfair to ask average Americans, who she noted are only earning about $20,000/year, to be the ones who have to pay for the "sins" (my word, not hers) of greedy bankers and investors. These Americans depend on Social Security as their only form of retirement, and losing even the small cost of living increase poses a hardship to most seniors today. Also, increasing the age of retirement of someone who more than likely worked in a factory, as a janitor, in a department store, or garage, is a brutal request. After all it is not like they have been sitting behind a desk, and having long lunches 4 days a week. Something about which a Wall Street Banker is much more familiar.

I would suggest modifying Social Security taxes so they are taken from everyone's paycheck, not stopping at an artificial ceiling, is reasonable. And at the same time, I also think that if a person (a "Captain of Industry" perhaps?) retires with $500,000 or more in savings, that person would not be eligible to receive Social Security.

Those changes I could live with.
10:04 AM on 11/12/2010
Read Krugman, NYT, this morning and all will be clear.
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RandyFunk
09:58 AM on 11/12/2010
Somebody please dispute this logic ! A fair tax would be base on what % of the US property you own. The top .01% of wealthiest Americans own near 50% of the US wealth so they should pay nearly 50% of the taxes. Just like any enterprise you share costs based on ownership.