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Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg DEFENDS Octomom's Fertility Treatments

SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER   11/17/10 07:18 PM ET   AP

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LOS ANGELES — A doctor testifying on behalf of "Octomom" Nadya Suleman's fertility doctor repeatedly defended the in vitro treatments she received, saying it was appropriate considering her impaired fertility and desire for a very large family.

Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg took the stand in a hearing that resumed Wednesday in Los Angeles, where closing arguments are expected to begin by Thursday in the Medical Board of California's licensing hearing for Dr. Michael Kamrava.

The state licensing agency is seeking to revoke or suspend the Beverly Hills physician's license to practice medicine, accusing him of gross negligence in his treatment of Suleman and two other patients.

Steinberg, a longtime professional acquaintance of Kamrava's and a fertility doctor, said Kamrava had to take into account his clinic's low success rate when treating patients for fertility.

Steinberg's testimony conflicted in several instances with earlier testimony from the medical board's expert witness, University of California San Francisco's fertility chief Dr. Victor Y. Fujimoto.

Kamrava's treatment in one attempted pregnancy, when he implanted eight embryos, was "aggressive" but "I can't fault his judgment, to be honest," Steinberg said. Suleman's hormone levels indicated she had the decreased fertility of a woman over 40 years of age before she was 30 years old, he noted.

All 14 of Suleman's children were conceived through in vitro treatments provided by Kamrava.

Fujimoto had testified that the number of embryos Kamrava implanted in his repeated treatments of Suleman exceeded the standard of care, which is to implant one or two embryos.

It is unheard of for a patient to be implanted with 12 embryos, as Suleman was in the conception of the octuplets she birthed in 2009, said Fujimoto.

Kamrava, in earlier testimony, has said he regrets implanting Suleman with 12 embryos, which, in his own words, resulted in the "very risky, unhealthy pregnancy" of the octuplets.

Steinberg also seemed to easily read and understand Kamrava's medical records and notations, which Fujimoto said were substandard and difficult to decipher.

Kamrava had gone out of his way to warn Suleman of the risks of implanting all 12 embryos, Steinberg said.

"(Kamrava) clearly spelled out over and over and over again that number one, he disagreed with her decision, and that she understands everything, that she's insisting he transfer all the embryos," said Steinberg.

Steinberg said, had he been in Kamrava's position, he would not have found it necessary to recommend Suleman for a mental health evaluation after she came back for repeated treatment, despite already having two children through in vitro fertilization.

He later added that in hindsight, she needed mental evaluation but no doctor has the "crystal ball that everyone expects us to have."

Fujimoto testified last month that providing unabated fertility treatment to a single woman should have raised questions, and resulted in mental health consultations before each additional pregnancy going forward.

Under cross examination, deputy attorney general Judith Alvarado asked Steinberg if doctors have an obligation to the welfare of existing children when they're considering providing fertility treatments.

"No, I think the mother has that obligation. To imply that fertility physician should assume responsibility for families of all their patients is way beyond our expectations and abilities," Steinberg said. "None of us would be able to practice medicine."

The hearing is expected to resume Thursday, with the state calling one more witness before closing arguments.

After this week's hearings, the administrative law judge overseeing the case will draft an opinion and submit it to the Medical Board, which will make the final decision on whether Kamrava can legally keep practicing medicine in California.

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LOS ANGELES — A doctor testifying on behalf of "Octomom" Nadya Suleman's fertility doctor repeatedly defended the in vitro treatments she received, saying it was appropriate considering her impa...
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tttony
Genius Christ
07:37 AM on 11/19/2010
Didn't the doctor apologize for the same thing 2 weeks ago?
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Mort
Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
12:04 AM on 11/19/2010
Criminal irresponsibility. Words won't cut it, doc. Give up your license and bank account, and then we'll think about whether or not to provide you with 3 squares a day and a bunk mate.
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lolyla
Now what?
11:18 PM on 11/18/2010
The physician had the responsibility of taking the extra effort to be certain Suleman did not have a mental illness. Making her get clearance from a psychiatrist -- and making sure she actually told the psychiatrist about her family planning in progress -- before each implantation would have completely changed this situation.
11:16 PM on 11/18/2010
today, I heard on TV, that the doctor conducted a fertility experiment on Nadya. This is was an experience that has affected 14 children. The doctor ought to have his license to practice medicine revoked.
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katielady
02:49 PM on 11/18/2010
The Society of Obstetrics and Gynecology should take his credentials. The risk for poly pregnancies is dangerous. And there should be regard to the home and life the child would have..
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Lorrie Jackson
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01:14 PM on 11/18/2010
Seeing that her doctor and even her parents have enabled Octomom all this time, reality is justifably a mutha for her, but I feel sorry for those kids, since their mother has no chance and no clue. They should 'neuter' his ability to practice medicine going forward, pun intended.
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valeskas
catlover/book lover democrat
11:43 AM on 11/18/2010
The State of California should sue the doctor, for the payments, California gives to this woman. All I have to say is Pay up, Doctor it was your fault.
11:47 AM on 11/18/2010
My thoughts exactly, valeskas.
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bridgeman
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08:08 AM on 11/18/2010
Doctor DEFENDS Octomom's Fertility Treatments

of course he does...can you say $$$$$$$$$?
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valeskas
catlover/book lover democrat
11:43 AM on 11/18/2010
Pay up Doctor.
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10:34 PM on 11/17/2010
""No, I think the mother has that obligation. To imply that fertility physician should assume responsibility for families of all their patients is way beyond our expectations and abilities," Steinberg said. "None of us would be able to practice medicine.""

The mother certainly has an obligation, but the doctor also has an obligation. It's not asking for a physician to assume responsibilities for a patient's family to thoroughly evaluate a patient's ability to care for the children she wants to conceive. It is completely inexcusable to provide fertility treatment to a single mom with 6 kids and no job. I don't care how much the patient wants to. Your job as a doctor is to understand the risks and possible outcomes of that treatment.

All he had to do was think with his brain instead of his wallet. No good was going to come out of this woman adding more children to the family she already couldn't care for. All he had to do is say no.
10:02 PM on 11/17/2010
I agree, the doctors should pay child support for these 'experiments'.
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wilinot
09:09 PM on 11/17/2010
He needs to pay child support to raise these children. The irresponsibility of giving fertility treatments and impregnating a woman who already had 6 children, who was single and already getting state aid to support those children is unbelievable.
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SinfullySublime
I can't help it if the truth has a liberal bias.
08:46 PM on 11/17/2010
There is no rational defense for his decision to help create this mess.
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jjgg5
08:19 PM on 11/17/2010
He should lose his license for the burden he put on his patient, her children and society.
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babybecks
"because I am involved in Mankind;"
08:00 PM on 11/17/2010
If he wants to keep his medical license, he needs to pay child support for all of these children until they are 18. I see the precedent that would be involved in this, but they are already here now. And they didn't ask to be
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elkhawk
Alternate your future
07:07 PM on 11/17/2010
Octomom and her doctor were both in the wrong. No single woman should have that many children. The doctor knew she had many children already and should have never given her treatments to have more.
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NeoConsAreFinished
Fight the Ah mer I cun talibanned
06:25 AM on 11/18/2010
First off I dont think anyone should have more than 5 children.
You say no single woman should have that many children? What the hell does her being single have to do with it? I know many married people who shouldnt have children.
Do you think a married women should have that many children?
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elkhawk
Alternate your future
10:10 AM on 11/18/2010
I don't know why I said single. I guess because she happens to be single. I agree with your first sentence. No married couple or single person should have that many children.
12:56 PM on 11/18/2010
Listen I fully support single women, but there is no denying that being a single parent is harder then having two parents. Meaning its easier to make more mistakes. So yes I do think there is a bit of a difference. Being single does have to do with it.
I know two couples with 4 kids and they manage easily. Being single would be much much harder. I don't know why its so taboo to think that.