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Obama Signs Order To Reform Faith-Based Office

First Posted: 11/17/10 03:03 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

White House Faith Office

By Adelle M. Banks
Religion News Service

WASHINGTON (RNS) President Obama signed an executive order Wednesday (Nov. 17) that reforms the White House's faith-based office in a bid to improve transparency and clarify rules for religious groups that receive federal grants.

The nine-page order reflects numerous recommendations made more than six months ago by a blue-ribbon advisory council charged with streamlining and reforming the office created under former President George W. Bush.

"The recommendations that they've put forth make really concrete and tangible improvements to the government's relationship with faith-based organizations," said Joshua DuBois, director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

The executive order, however, does not address controversial questions of whether grant recipients can hire and fire based on religion. Administration officials have said those questions will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

DuBois and others said the new order gives better legal footing to public-private partnerships. "It ... clarifies that decisions about financial awards must be free from political interference or the appearance thereof," DuBois said.

In particular, the order reflects the council's special concern about the treatment of people who receive social services from a religious group receiving federal funding.

"The government has a responsibility to give a referral to a nonreligious program if the beneficiary objects to the religious program they're in," DuBois said in explaining the order.

Melissa Rogers, who chaired the advisory council, said the order both continues and changes the work begun under Bush. For example, grant recipients may continue offering services in buildings containing religious symbols, but will be required to provide beneficiaries with
written information about their rights.

"In the case of social service beneficiaries, that's been a real worry for many of us, that they might not know what their rights are," Rogers said.

Responding to recommendations for greater transparency, the order calls for agencies to post rules affecting religious organizations online, as well as lists of federal grant recipients.

Rogers said such steps may dispel notions there is a "pot of gold" waiting solely for religious groups that apply for grants.

"By having all this easily accessible, it heightens the chances that we'll be able to demystify the process and watch the process," she said.

Obama's order implements most of the dozen reform recommendations crafted by the council's task force on internal reform, which included a former Bush administration staffer and church-state separationists.

With the new order in place, DuBois said "well over half" of the council's total 64 recommendations -- on topics ranging from poverty to interfaith relations -- will have been implemented.

Other council members, who represent both conservative and liberal religious organizations, said they were pleased with the order.

"President Obama has advanced America's social welfare sector and protected constitutional principles," said Nathan Diament, the top Washington lobbyist for Orthodox Jewish congregations.

Rabbi David Saperstein, director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, said the new rules will "set the faith-based initiative on far firmer constitutional ground, and give much broader protections to both religious institutions and the beneficiaries than they've had so far."

The order calls for a new interagency working group that will issue guidance to federal agencies within 120 days.

DuBois said new members of an advisory council, who will succeed the group that finished its work in March, will be announced "as soon as possible."

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Chaotician101
03:41 PM on 11/23/2010
Having a faith based relationship in government is already a travesty and an unacceptable debasement of our secular government! Making rules is a typical Religious Right tactic of giving up an inch of the mile they have seized! This cements the continuing destruction by Obama of the fundamental basis for America, the Republican; and contnues the side to Fascism, albeit one couched in Fundamental Christian tyranny and bigotry!
05:53 PM on 11/25/2010
Around the world it is standard for governments to have a ministry of religion or something similar.
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Thinkster
I Think, therefore I POST!
05:57 PM on 11/25/2010
No - not this government. No religious authority or support from the government.
08:28 PM on 11/20/2010
Everyone wants to cut government spending. Start with this office and all funding.
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Thinkster
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05:57 PM on 11/25/2010
I agree with this - this office should be abolished.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
09:17 PM on 11/19/2010
How 'bout abolishing the damned office altogether?
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
01:48 PM on 11/19/2010
How does the gov't not "establish" as per the First amendment when they give them money?
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
10:21 AM on 11/19/2010
The ACLU and Teaparty should work together to get rid of this boondoggle.
11:39 PM on 11/18/2010
If there was any consistancy or rationality to their postion, the Tea Partiers and the "religous right" would have this unconstutional diversion of tax payer money on the chopping block in the wink of an eye - but of course there isn't any rationality to their position, and so they won't.

The "Office of Faith Based Intiatives" is an absurdity, and the day it is eliminated will be a day that marks this countries return to rational governing.
12:07 AM on 11/19/2010
Agree.

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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
01:48 PM on 11/19/2010
a step perhaps in that direction but this would be a good, first one!
08:29 PM on 11/18/2010
The first thing Obama should have done when he took office is eliminate this egregious violation of our 1st Amendment precepts.

Well maybe the 2nd thing. The first thing was to remove Dubya's Smurf wallpaper from the Presidential bedroom.
12:07 AM on 11/19/2010
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MmeFlutterbye
Mmeflutterbye
05:27 PM on 11/18/2010
I have always felt that even a hint of government collusion with any faith has to be illegal. The idea that a faith-based office of the government is going to be fair in its federal grants is ludicrous. It's a terrible slippery slope that seems to cater to Christians who think theirs is the only faith worth rewarding. I would take some comfort (but not much) if I saw grants going to Buddhist, Muslims, and other non-Christian groups. As it is any snake-oil salesman can put on a Christian hat and form a wacky religion and ask for federal grants which he/she can then pocket.
12:09 AM on 11/19/2010
Very true.

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Thinkster
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06:41 PM on 11/25/2010
I agree - what exactly is this office asking us to pay for?

Trot it out - I wanna have a chat. I have some complaints.
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Weirdwriter
03:51 PM on 11/18/2010
President Barack Obama is a Constitutional scholar and a man who does not wear his religion on his sleeve. He is not in a position to get rid of this office wholesale without it becoming a violent distraction on the part of his Rethuglican enemies. That may suit them just fine, but I think Obama properly sees that as an unnecessary battle at this time. At the least, he's made it more in line with other government entities.

FYI, despite all the gnashing of teeth about how this office is "unConstitutional," so far, I've not seen evidence that it actually is in direction violation of the Constitution. It's had quite awhile to be in existence and yet it's not been challenged successfully on Constitutional grounds in the courts. You'd think if it were that obvious, that would have happened by now.

There is also no verifiable evidence being presented that anything these organizations are doing is to advance some diabolical agenda to inflict religion on people.

Here's the web site for this office, folks. A little homework is advised: http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ofbnp
04:25 PM on 11/18/2010
Slurp, slurp, slurp the Obama juice. Buy whatever the White House is selling.
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Weirdwriter
10:39 PM on 11/18/2010
Hey, good on you!
12:16 AM on 11/19/2010
I believe, when the time comes the faith based program will be declared unconstitutional. The time will come when there are fewer Catholics on the SCOTUS.
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Weirdwriter
12:22 AM on 11/19/2010
The SCOTUS needs a CASE to even consider the matter. They justices cannot decide whether or not to hear something based on their personal beliefs.

So far, nothing has been presented, so far as I can tell.
03:49 PM on 11/18/2010
Weirdwriter 3 minutes ago (3:40 PM)
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You're the one making the claims without providing verifiable evidence for even one.

Pony up or quit being so defensive.

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I made one claim, that he had never been to a soup-kitchen. That claim I based on the nonsense he wrote in his comment of which he left unsubstantiated.

What exactly did I say that would be construed as defensive?
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Weirdwriter
03:52 PM on 11/18/2010
I wasn't responding to you, friend, but the same person making the claim. I apologize if that was unclear.
03:58 PM on 11/18/2010
No apology necessary, just be aware of who's Reply button you are pressing :)
02:42 PM on 11/18/2010
I don't understand why people think this office is unconstitutional. The bill of rights clearly states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Nowhere in that amendment does it mention the President or the Executive Branch. The President is not a member of Congress.
03:16 PM on 11/18/2010
The problem is that PUBLIC money is being used to promote RELIGIOUS endeavors. PUBLIC money is being redistributed to PRIVATE, religious organizations so that they may further their agenda.
03:21 PM on 11/18/2010
What RELIGIOUS endeavors are being promoted?

What agenda is this PUBLIC money furthering?

You make all of these ridiculous claims without even a shred of proof.
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MmeFlutterbye
Mmeflutterbye
04:48 PM on 11/19/2010
How can anyone believe that religion isn't being promoted? Let's face it. Christians get the biggest piece of the pie. The fact that these religious businesses (and they are BUSINESSES) are allowed to operate without paying taxes...and then they can apply for extra funds from the government, makes me furious.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
02:34 PM on 11/18/2010
Does anyone have any idea what the money is used for? Who audits the books? Who decides how much taxpayer money goes to these organizations? Is there a listing of what this program has accomplished somewhere?
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Ytrus
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04:22 PM on 11/18/2010
God knows.
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MmeFlutterbye
Mmeflutterbye
04:49 PM on 11/19/2010
And only He.
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Weirdwriter
10:43 PM on 11/18/2010
I tried to post this early and it didn't appear. Here's the web site for the office with the information: http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ofbnp
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
10:18 AM on 11/19/2010
Doesn't seem to be anything specific. Where are the statistics to show that the money being thrown into this program is working?
02:31 PM on 11/18/2010
DISCLAIMER: I am not a churchgoer or even a Christian. That being said,

What most of the commenters fail to realize is that the government is giving grant money to 501(c)3s that churches start that are completely separate from their church. It may use the church building for station purposes but there is NO preaching, proselytizing, etc. Now, of course in personal conversation with those who come for help, who knows what goes on? But these monies go to aid organizations like food & clothing pantries, international outreach, neighborhood daycares, etc while simultaneously creating jobs in the communities in which they serve. While working at a small United Methodist Church, the little old ladies who tended the outreach at the church never proselytized a bit, unless what you call proselytizing is sending a starving family out bundled with free groceries and shoes for their children & being told "God bless you honey!" Hows about you guys actually read what the FB initiative is about? Government doesn't give money to churches, per se, but to organizations started out of faith-based institutions based on faith-based creeds of service and ministry.
02:36 PM on 11/18/2010
These are 501(c)3s owned by churches = a group of people, just like anyone can start a 501(c)3. Should the government just ignore the thousands of churches in the country and act as if they dont exist, or try to partner with them in community programs to impact the community? Or should we just rely on the wonderful job the govt has done to feed, clothe, employ, and minister to the disfranchised of the US?
02:50 PM on 11/18/2010
When hungry people go to a soup-kitchen, they often have to sit through an hour-long sermon before they can access their "free" government cheese and stale bread, (donated for a tax deduction by local businesses). Not only that, a lot of these xtian organizations are connected to a xtian churches that dole out government granted money to members of their own congregations. Their senators and congress-critters have been cutting away at public programs, eliminating the safety net, for years, only to redistribute PUBLIC money to PRIVATE churches. So guess what? If you are not a member of that church, or won't jump through whatever hoops are required of you, you're simply out of the loop. These organizations can and do discriminate. The whole thing is a scam to get the public to fund their right-wing agenda and to usurp the role of government in ensuring the welfare of the population.
02:57 PM on 11/18/2010
You've obviously never been to a soup-kitchen.
05:27 PM on 11/18/2010
IF you have personally seen those offenses, and can gather some form of evidence, then those organizations are breaking the rules. They're misappropriating public tax money to proselytize their religion.

When I've tutored in inner-city literacy centers roughly organized by my church--but NOT WITH any federal money--even then we were strictly told to NOT get into religious areas, NOT use religious texts to teach literacy, NOT leave religious books lying around, etc.

So some organizations toe the line on NOT using community betterment programs for proselytizing and--per your experience--some that break the rules.

Please report specific law-breakers to the IRS. They'd love to hear from you. Have and present your evidence, not just verbal assertions.

The law-breakers deserve to be rebuked as they give this whole area of endeavor a bad name.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
02:30 PM on 11/18/2010
This is an area of the budget that should be cut to save the taxpayers money.
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Weirdwriter
03:54 PM on 11/18/2010
The Republicans pushed this through to do exactly that, because their contention is that government should not be providing these services to the needy.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
04:11 PM on 11/18/2010
Are you sure is wasn't to get them to tell their members to vote GOP?
02:29 PM on 11/18/2010
"President Obama signed an executive order Wednesday (Nov. 17) that reforms the White House's in a bid to improve transparency and clarify rules for religious groups that receive federal grants."

Well there's the problem, right there. There should be no "faith-based office" as per the separation of church and state. And religious groups should NOT receive any public moneys to dole out welfare to their congregations. It's a crying shame that tax-dollars go to promote the right wing's religious, bigoted agenda. I'm not opposed to more transparency, but to the existence of religious entities in government.
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Weirdwriter
03:42 PM on 11/18/2010
You've been asked several times to provide verifiable evidence that this is to promote the "religious, bigoted agenda."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ofbnp -- do the real homework, then get back to us.