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Joe Biden: 2014 Afghanistan Pullout Is 'Drop Dead Date'

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AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 11/19/10 09:34 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

LISBON, Portugal -- President Barack Obama and NATO's 27 other leaders open a two-day summit Friday on keeping the Cold War alliance relevant - but the meeting is being overshadowed by the escalating war in Afghanistan, where the alliance is struggling to contain Taliban militants.

NATO officials say they expect unanimous support from the allies for Obama's plans for a new, expanded missile defense system in Europe that would be based on an existing shield meant to defend military units from attack. The U.S. already has a missile defense system based mainly in North America, and it is planning one for its European allies.

But Obama will face tough questions from U.S. allies on his exit strategy in Afghanistan. He will also meet with leaders of the European Union on Saturday to defend his preference for stimulus spending at a time when many European nations are enacting economic austerity measures.

On Friday morning, appearing on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Vice President Joe Biden described 2014 as the "drop dead date" for "transitioning" power to Afghan authorities. Watch:


Biden offered similar sentiments during a CNN interview on Thursday:

While defending the military surge in Afghanistan after eight years of what he termed "neglect," Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that Afghan leaders could soon be left on their own, whether they're ready or not.

"We had to say, 'Look, you've got to step up, man,'" Biden said Thursday on CNN's "Larry King Live."

"Let me tell you, we're going to start -- Daddy is going to start to take the training wheels off ... next July, so you'd better practice riding."

The NATO leaders are expected on Saturday to endorse a plan by Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, to start handing over responsibility for security in some areas of Afghanistan to government forces in 2011. The plan is to end the alliance's combat role by 2014 if conditions on the ground allow, but to retain significant forces in the country after that to train and advise the Afghan army and police.

The alliance's target is in line with Afghan President Hamid Karzai's goal of having his forces take the main responsibility for security by 2014, Obama said in an interview published Friday in El Pais, Spain's leading newspaper.

Obama also told the paper he expected the allies will pledge additional trainers for Afghan security forces.

"This effort is going to take time and our commitment to Afghanistan and the Afghan people is for the long-term," Obama said. "We cannot turn our backs on the Afghan people."

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton defended the high cost that European nations are paying for their participation in the war in Afghanistan, and urged them to stay the course despite dire economic difficulties for many countries that have translated into wage cuts, lost jobs and massive government budget reductions.

"Though we are very supportive of the difficult decisions that will have to be made concerning the economy, just as back home President Obama is making difficult decisions concerning our own economy, we believe that the mission we are pursuing in Afghanistan must continue," Clinton told reporters.

The alliance has 140,000 troops in Afghanistan, two-thirds of them Americans. The government's security forces are being built up to just over 300,000 members. Their Taliban opponents are estimated to number up to 30,000 men.

Allied commanders have highlighted their successes this year against Taliban insurgents in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, to emphasize that transition is ready.

But allied casualties have also reached record levels of some 650 dead this year, and the Taliban have spread out into other parts of Afghanistan.

Failure in Afghanistan could leave alliance members questioning whether NATO's nation-building goals in the embattled country have been worth the cost, and whether they will support similar missions in the future, a RAND Corporation study said Friday.

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LISBON, Portugal -- President Barack Obama and NATO's 27 other leaders open a two-day summit Friday on keeping the Cold War alliance relevant - but the meeting is being overshadowed by the escalating ...
LISBON, Portugal -- President Barack Obama and NATO's 27 other leaders open a two-day summit Friday on keeping the Cold War alliance relevant - but the meeting is being overshadowed by the escalating ...
 
 
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SpookyTwo 12:34 PM on 11/19/2010
When Barack backed out of the public option during the 2008 campaign )just as any run-of-the-mill politician would have), I knew right then and there that, if elected, he wouldn't deliver.  Thus far, he hasn't.

When his supporters didn't hold him accountable for backing out of the public option in 2008, I knew that, collectively, they would never hold him accountable for  Read More...
09:02 PM on 11/28/2010
They didn't end the war. They will be out of office.
09:38 PM on 11/21/2010
I have two words for Biden, Obama, and all the other war mongers in Washington, D.C.

"Drop Dead!"

Peace,
Tex Shelters
http://texshelters.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/the-deficit-of-truth-and-ideas-the-surplus-of-lies-and-greed/
04:35 AM on 11/21/2010
Biden and Obama assume they will be around in 2014? Obama lied about ending the wars. Halfway thru a failed presidency, he is once again handing over the commander in chief role to "The Generals".
Obama should have stayed in India. With his dancing moves, he could be a big Bollywood star!
04:23 PM on 11/20/2010
Biden's comment that "Daddy's going to take the training wheels off." must sound like the height of condescention and even contempt to the leaders of our puppet government.
04:14 PM on 11/20/2010
"The plan is to end the alliance's combat role by ++insert date here++ if conditions on the ground allow, but to retain significant forces in the country after that to train and advise the ++insert name of puppet government here++ army and police."
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lynettema
Little old lady
03:22 PM on 11/20/2010
No end in sight at all if we keep electing Cons.
01:49 PM on 11/20/2010
Joe Biden's requests sounds like a student asking for an extension on the business law term paper. In this case the professor are the U.S. voter's.
So often people confuse Al Qaeda with the Taliban, including the Huffington Post and even CNN. Al Qaeda is the military wing of Osama Bin Laden, younger brother of the Bin Laden family whom George Bush Sr., George Bush Jr. did business with. While the Taliban are an ethnic group of people who reside in the border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
03:22 PM on 11/21/2010
Max, the Taliban are not ethnic. They are a fundamentalist religious group that developed after Russia pulled out of Afghanistan. The Pashtuns that live in Kandahar and the regions you describe are an ethnic group that may or may not be a Taliban. Chaos often gives rise to fundamentalism as people seek order in their lives. If Adghanistan came to some order with integrity whereby citizens could have their needs met, Talibanism would die a natural death.
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11:46 AM on 11/20/2010
I am beginning to see more of George Bush and John McCain in Obama's military policy. I cannot believe that we will be spending over 20 years in Afghanistan by the time we completely hand over operations. There is a part of me that believe that we will attempt to occupy Afghanistan just as we presently occupy Korea and other countries around the world. I am deeply disappointed and look forward to find out who will be running for president in 2012. Presently, I do not see anyone worthy of my vote.
11:29 AM on 11/20/2010
I meant the country they're destroying is America.
11:24 AM on 11/20/2010
2014 is the best pullout the Pentagon could expect. By 2014 the Bush wars will have bankrupted America, and we won't be able to afford to stay longer. The real question is, how long will it be before America wakes up and realizes that the military industrial complex is destroying the country that it says it's protecting?
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WaveRhydr
DIEBOLD-WE VOTE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO
09:59 AM on 11/20/2010
Ok, time for grownups to take charge. You generals and morons in congress find something else to do because war time is over. Try nap time, then economy time, but you would stay in afghanistan forever if we let you.
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Roadrun
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08:49 AM on 11/20/2010
I just don't think Afghanistan is ever going to work out like some dreamer imagines in Sim WarTornCountry. It's not like they had their malls destroyed and Haliburton is going to rebuild them. This place has always been one of the least evolved places on Earth and nothing GWB didn't know can change that. There are certain facts of life on Earth and they are not going to change with dead American kids laying around roadsides in Afghanistan any more than they would change if those kids were home living the life they used to have.
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pa30
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08:32 AM on 11/20/2010
'Stay the course'and 'European missile shields', seem like terms I heard in the past. These wars with Salafi jihadist are really all about rejection of globalization ,as much as killing nonbelievers.
KennebunkportIndependent
Back in my day, we had NINE planets.
08:30 AM on 11/20/2010
Lisbon: Nato leaders endorse Afghanistan 2014 withdrawal date Nato leaders have endorsed on Saturday a plan to start handing Afghan forces command of the war next year with the aim of ceding full control by 2014.
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right Alice
08:03 AM on 11/20/2010
That is an awful expression - Drop Dead Date.
Bad enough energy and innuendo in everything.