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Alan Simpson: 'Grover Norquist Will Be Irrelevant In A Year'

First Posted: 11/19/10 10:44 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- Say what you will about the actual policy proposals put forth by the chairs of the president's fiscal commission -- both former Senator Alan Simpson and former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles certainly enjoy agitating their observers.

Calling for an increase in the retirement age for Social Security -- when the entitlement program is solvent until 2037 and contributes nothing to the debt -- was bold and bound to irritate progressives. And the two have basically reveled in the animosity they've engendered from AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and others.

But Bowles and Simpson have been equal opportunity offenders as well. And on Friday morning the Wyoming Republican ridiculed one of his foremost conservative critics, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, for calling on Republicans to oppose the fiscal commission chair's proposal on grounds that it was a tax increase.

"Every penny -- every buck we spend, we're borrowing 41 cents," said Simpson, during an appearance on "Morning Joe". "And that's what I tell them. And then they go, 'Well, I didn't know that'. I mean, you can come in here -- you can come in here with your no taxes, I mean, I think Grover Norquist will be irrelevant in a year, because if he's calling this a tax increase, he's in Disneyland."

The Bowles-Simpson proposal is, more generally, a massive tax policy restructure than an increase. Corporate rates, for example, would be lowered to 23 percent, but it would be coupled with the raising of rates elsewhere and a simplification of the overall code.

That Norquist and others voiced opposition to the plan wasn't surprising. Drawing such lines in the sand is, basically, the main function of Americans for Tax Reform. And while Simpson may think that such rigidity is pointless posturing, Norquist's relevance seems likely to more enduring than his. Few Republican candidates have the stomach to risk his ire, knowing full well that the tar of supposedly supporting a tax increases sticks during a primary process.

A request for comment from a Norquist spokesman was not immediately returned.

UPDATE: American's for Tax Reform responds to Simpson with a post on the organization's website:

That's an odd statement considering page 11 of Alan Simpson's own plan admits that the plan raises net taxes by $1 trillion over the next decade.
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WASHINGTON -- Say what you will about the actual policy proposals put forth by the chairs of the president's fiscal commission -- both former Senator Alan Simpson and former White House Chief of Staff...
WASHINGTON -- Say what you will about the actual policy proposals put forth by the chairs of the president's fiscal commission -- both former Senator Alan Simpson and former White House Chief of Staff...
 
 
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
11:14 AM on 11/20/2010
Aw yet more pearls of wisdom from the Catfood commission. I can say this, if they mess with Social Security and Obama and the Repubs act on this, Obama is done.

Strangely enough people will accept a lot: the rich running everything, 45,000 people dying every year from having no health coverage, no Public Option, people being tortured and on and on. The one thing they won't accept is messing with Social Security.

Bush tried this in 2005, this broke the back of his popularity. That along with Terry Schiavo and Katrina finished him. This could be the end of Obama if he backs their proposals.
08:04 AM on 11/20/2010
Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?
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Cleverboots
11:40 PM on 11/19/2010
All those in favor of an irrelevant Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles in a year say"Aye."
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blueinannarbor
My micro bio is now full
11:09 PM on 11/19/2010
The guy isn't that relevant right now. What's going to happen in a year to make him any less relevant?
11:01 PM on 11/19/2010
Shouldn’t Simpson be busy rehearsing for his part in “A Christmas Carol”?
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Kenyatta J Yamel
09:51 PM on 11/19/2010
Norquist is no good but Simpson isn't any better.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
11:15 AM on 11/20/2010
Exactly.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
08:57 PM on 11/19/2010
Why don't we starve Grover until he's weak enough to drag to the bathtub and drown him in it?
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JackWhistle
10:43 PM on 11/19/2010
I despise the man as much as anyone but.. that was downright.. republican. Hate the man, not his life.
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01:12 AM on 11/20/2010
That wasn't being literal. JP's alluding to a quote from Tom Delay.
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08:20 PM on 11/19/2010
He should be irrelevant now.

Norquist and Americans for Tax Reform were mentioned in Senate testimony relating to the lobbying scandal for which Abramoff pled guilty in 2006. Norquist has denied claims that he did anything wrong.[28] Records released by the Senate Indian Affairs Committee allege that ATR served as a "conduit" for funds that flowed from Abramoff's clients to surreptitiously finance grass-roots lobbying campaigns.
07:36 PM on 11/19/2010
Yeah because Simpson is doing Norquist's job for him.
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vonPinto
Who Dares Win.
07:18 PM on 11/19/2010
Irrelevant in a YEAR?

He IS ALREADY.
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Thomas Clarke
06:59 PM on 11/19/2010
If he's in 'Disneyland' as Simpson says - maybe he could play Goofy.
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
05:55 PM on 11/19/2010
If a guy who hasn't been relevant for 5 years says something, does it count?
04:53 PM on 11/19/2010
Anyone who thinks we can balance the budget, much less pay down the debt, at the current or lower tax rates is just plain dillusional. Not even if we had a boom on the scale of the 1995-2000 period for 20 straight years.
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ProfGiles
04:46 PM on 11/19/2010
Grover was never relevant. He's just another two-bit something-for-nothing whiner.
04:38 PM on 11/19/2010
Isn't FORMER Senator Alan Simpson irrelevant now?!
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06:34 PM on 11/19/2010
He should be, but our chess playing president chose him for this committee and breathed new life into the corpse.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
11:16 AM on 11/20/2010
Sadly true.