iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Job-Based Health Care Threatened

RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   11/28/10 01:21 PM ET   AP

Erskine Bowles
Erskine Bowles, left, accompanied by former Wyoming Sen. Alan Simpson, co-chairmen of Barack Obama's deficit commission. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)

WASHINGTON — Job-based health care benefits could wind up on the chopping block if President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans get serious about cutting the deficit.

Budget proposals from leaders in both parties have urged shrinking or eliminating tax breaks that help make employer health insurance the leading source of coverage in the nation and a middle-class mainstay.

The idea isn't to just raise revenue, economists say, but finally to turn Americans into frugal health care consumers by having them face the full costs of their medical decisions.

Such a re-engineering was rejected by Democrats only a few months ago, at the height of the health care overhaul debate. But Washington has changed, with Republicans back in power and widespread fears that the burden of government debt may drag down the economy.

"There is no short-term prospect of enactment," former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a leading Democratic adviser on health care. "However, in a tax reform (and) deficit reducing context in the long term, the prospects are much better," said Daschle. He opposes repealing the tax break by itself, but says he would be "willing to look" at it with other changes that improve access to quality health care while reducing costs.

Labor unions believed they had squelched any such talk. Now, they're preparing for another fight.

Tampering with health care tax breaks is "a terrible step in the wrong direction," said Mary Kay Henry, the new president of the Service Employees International Union, which represents many hospital workers. "We want the middle class stabilized, not destabilized."

Employer-provided health insurance is part of a worker's compensation. Unlike wages, it isn't subject to income and payroll taxes.

Repealing the tax break would raise several hundred billion dollars a year, depending on how it's done. Many economists believe employers would boost pay if they didn't provide health care. Proponents of repeal usually call for a tax credit to offset part of the cost of individually purchasing coverage.

The leaders of Obama's deficit commission – Democrat Erskine Bowles, a former Clinton White House chief of staff, and Alan Simpson, a former GOP senator from Wyoming – have proposed to limit the tax break or eliminate it along with other cherished deductions, such as the one for mortgage interest. That would allow for a big cut in tax rates.

The commission is supposed to report its plan on Wednesday. It's unclear if leaders have the votes to back their sweeping changes.

A separate group, the Bipartisan Policy Center, is proposing to cap the health care tax break in 2018 and eliminate it over the next 10 years. That's part of a deficit reduction strategy from Democrat Alice Rivlin, a former Federal Reserve vice chairman, and former Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N-M., who once led the Senate Budget Committee.

"The problem of rising debt is so serious that Republicans and Democrats are going to have go back and look at almost everything to see how we solve this," said Rivlin.

Simpson calls the health care tax break a "tax earmark." He said that "you cannot get anything done in this game unless you deal with every single aspect of the federal budget, and the biggest thing to wrap our arms around is health care."

Democrats struggled with proposals to curb the tax break during the health care debate, but strong opposition from organized labor won out. The compromise was a tax on high-cost health insurance plans, which won't go into effect until 2018.

In a twist, the health care law eventually may make it easier to pry people away from employer insurance, a system that dates to World War II and has sustained three generations.

Starting in 2014, new insurance markets will make it easier for people to buy coverage on their own. These state-based "exchanges" would work like the federal employee health plan. Taxpayer subsidies will help individuals and families with low to moderate incomes pay premiums.

"Before health reform, a declining role for employers would have raised concerns," Rivlin and Domenici said in their proposal. But well-run exchanges "will provide a viable – perhaps even superior – alternative."

One Democratic member of Obama's deficit commission is wrestling with the idea.

California Rep. Xavier Becerra says it's a very different situation from the health care debate. Back then, policymakers were looking for money to pay for covering the uninsured. Now, they're looking at rebalancing the role of government in the economy. He's not considering health care tax breaks in isolation.

"What we are saying is that we are going to examine every tax earmark," Becerra said. "They are all on the table. If you want to keep one, then show us how you are going to come up with the money. That's where you really have to put your money where your mouth is."

___

Online:

Deficit commission: http://www.fiscalcommission.gov

Bipartisan Policy Center: http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org

Service Employees International Union: http://tinyurl.com/39ftmj2

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON — Job-based health care benefits could wind up on the chopping block if President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans get serious about cutting the deficit. Budget proposals f...
WASHINGTON — Job-based health care benefits could wind up on the chopping block if President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans get serious about cutting the deficit. Budget proposals f...
Filed by Alexander Belenky  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 3,630
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (68 total)
06:46 PM on 12/04/2010
This would be a step in the right direction. Employer based health care appears to be one of the worst systems around, and probably does contribute to a degree to higher health care costs. I was hoping a big part of Obamacare would have been to move away from employer based exchanges. Moving away from employer based health care should be a win-win for everyone too, employers would no longer be shouldered with the burden, while employees wouldn't have to worry about losing coverage when they switched jobs. It would just take some effort to develop alternatives.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
heardingcats
06:07 PM on 11/30/2010
Wasn't it Palin who quipped that we could barter for health care by trading carrots? Looks like we are heading in that direction. This some scary chit.
07:54 AM on 11/30/2010
Why aren't we discussing the cost of benefits for our elected officials? They need to feel the pain.
Considering that many of them are millionaires I think they could manage to stay off the welfare roles and pay their own way.Has anyone done a cost benefit analysis? I see that Simpson called this generation greedy.Is he excluding himself and other elected officials?I think that each and every tax payer should be alowed to do a performance review.I say no pay raises,no free government health insurance and pensions..This is what has happened to thousands of Americans because of corporate screw-ups and greed.Their insensitivity and contempt for the victims of that greed might change if they feel the pain..
09:11 PM on 11/29/2010
Doctor John,

I fanned you for you post that, while it complied with the rules of this site, was deleted solely based on ideology.
07:40 PM on 11/29/2010
Employer insurance is obsolete, worker do not stay with one employer for 30 yrs like they did
Employees move or get dumped and there goes all their insurance . People work for them selves
and their kids may be in an other state do to divorce . We need a national plan funded by a sales
tax . Every one pays and every one receives and sales tax is deductible .
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
CTtransplant
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow
09:00 PM on 11/29/2010
Excellent suggestion, fjm!   Fanned and faved!
05:58 PM on 11/29/2010
beware of gopers bearing gifts, fixes,or tax cuts

every time they do anything their pals get richer and everyone gets poorer
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
04:41 PM on 11/29/2010
Talk about bitter, perverse irony - the ultimate in stunning, hardcore, health care HYPOCRISY.

Apparently, pinkocommiesocialism is evil-bad...except for when it's really good by boosting your bottom line.

And who knew a Repub could be such a compassionate, humanitarian kind of guy?

“Despite Bashing Government Aid, Ron Johnson* Employs Prison Inmates With State-Run Health Care”

"Republican Senate candidate Ron Johnson [now Senator-elect], who has campaigned against government subsidies to business, employs up to nine prison inmates at his plastics factories, whose health care costs are paid by the state.

Campaign spokeswoman Sara Sendek said his companies hire inmates as a public service**. Saving money "was not a factor by any means," she said. "The factor was, this is a way to help put these people on the path back to recovery so they could contribute and work their way back into society."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/08/ron-johnson-health-insurance_n_756385.html

* "opposes subsidies as government interference in the free market"

** That Johnson saves about $90,000 on employee health care costs by hiring 9 convicts (instead of the unemployed) sure doesn't hurt either, huh? What a guy.
photo
FearlessLeader
I never lie. And I'm always right.
04:12 PM on 11/29/2010
"Many economists believe employers would boost pay if they didn't provide health care."

Obviously, after cutting health care for ordinary workers, they would then boost pay for CEO's. So in that sense, the statement is true.
09:06 PM on 11/29/2010
a prominent was on CSPAN, forgot her name. she was discussing one of the goals of the obama tax on comprehensive health insurance plans was to shift employer comprehension from tax free health benefits back to the salary where it can be taxed.
photo
FearlessLeader
I never lie. And I'm always right.
02:13 PM on 11/30/2010
I guess, to some people, tax increases are OK as long as it is the middle class, rather than the rich which are being taxed.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
03:46 PM on 11/29/2010
PRISONERS.

That’s right, we hard-working taxpayers fund government health care for convicted criminals.

2.4 million prisoners.

Apparently, prisoners are more valuable, their health and well-being more important than yours and mine.

Those who break the law - those who lie, cheat, steal, kill - get free health care.

Think Madoff, Abramoff, Manson, Hinckley.

Law-abiding, often uninsured citizens* get to pay for it.

They do NOT, however, deserve that same health coverage.

That would be socialism**.

Yes, Joe American is good enough to pay to keep criminals and Congress healthy, but not good enough to receive that same care himself.

Ah, the beauty, wonder, wisdom - the infinite justice of our free-market, capitalistic democracy.

* including 8 million children

** Better to bravely die uninsured - a true, patriotic American - than be a socialist. Talk about rugged American individualism - the ultimate personal responsibility. :)
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
FREEDOM BELL
03:03 PM on 11/29/2010
Everytime a deduction is eliminated in the name of 'fariness', there should be a corresponding decrease in the tax rates.  Otherwise, it is just a tax increase.  Tax deductions were important to the middle class.  They encouraged home ownership and raising children and taking care of your family and gave a break to those with health problems.  Tax deductions helped Americans to behave responsibly.  The current trend is to tax every individual the same without regard to their responsibilities or their socially valuable expenditures.  We should reinstate all the personal tax deductions in effect January, 1980.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
FREEDOM BELL
02:59 PM on 11/29/2010
Health care is a right and universal health care is necessary for the public good.  Health care is not something that should be rationed to those who can afford it.  Health care should not be subject to capitalist greed.  All profit should be taken out of health care and all hospitals should be not for profit.  Health care is like electricity.  Everyone needs it.  If not for greed and profit and fraud and waste by those who want to cheat to make more money, there would be enough money and health care resources for everyone to have proper care.  Americans should focus on the quality of health care in this country rather than how to wring a huge profit from people's suffering.  Americans should care about one another.
03:15 PM on 11/29/2010
What does this have to do with the topic at hand? The topic is getting rid of the incentive that allows employers to subsidize the employees insurance. If the government removes this ability, then insurance costs will skyrocket for the employee. It will not raise the pay of employees as they think because then the employee will have to fork out of their own pocket the cost of the coverage. Loose Loose situation. Another punishment on the working class.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Truth In Voting
Paranoid Rightwing Catchphrase Bingo!!
02:40 PM on 11/29/2010
Dear America,

We've repeated time and time again that the founding fathers' intentions were that governments should be small, poor people should be quiet, the rest of you don't deserve subsidized healthcare. But I understand, you want to vaccinate your children, have that bump you found checked for cancer. We can empathize.

So you want to want to know how to get healthcare?

Do what we do!

Forget about Obamacare with its death panels and publicly-funded gay marriage climate change abortions....

Here's the secret to affordable healthcare in America: GET ELECTED TO CONGRESS!

Several thousand dollars in an HSA to eliminate your deductibles and premiums, well baby visits, preventive care, no deductibles on prescriptions... do you see why we have the best healthcare in the world?

No, not the "everyone in America" we, but my fellow Congressional representatives. When I look at Capitol Hill, there's no complaints about skyrocketing premiums, preexisting conditions, or dropped coverage. Our healthcare is the BEST! So why reform healthcare? Ours is wonderful, why reform what's not broken? It's just common sense, unless Democrats are onto something we don't know -- which isn't very likely el-oh-el! And why govern employer healthcare for citizens -- after all, should you all have the FREEDOM and CHOICE whether or not to provide or accept healthcare?

So there you have it: Get elected to Congress, and get top-notch healthcare paid for by the American people's taxes.

Sincerely,
The Republican Party
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
redstateblues69
03:56 PM on 11/29/2010
Or become an OctoMom and get a 5 million dollar birth.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
Jeany
Woman w/ Pitchfork
01:59 PM on 11/29/2010
The millage trolls are out in force on this thread.
01:53 PM on 11/29/2010
what a horrible idea! eliminate tax breaks for small business? right now? WTF are they thinking?