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Minnesota Recount In Unresolved Governor's Race Gets Underway

BRIAN BAKST and MARTIGA LOHN   11/29/10 09:35 PM ET   AP

Minnesota Recount

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Barely an hour into a statewide recount of Minnesota's close race for governor Monday, a volunteer for Democrat Mark Dayton gestured toward an 8-inch stack of ballots awaiting a second look.

"This is all we have to do today?" John Cisney asked, drawing chuckles from those around him.

Not by a long shot. He was in Ramsey County, home to 193,000 of the 2.1 million ballots that will get intense scrutiny as officials try to determine whether Dayton's pre-recount lead of almost 8,800 votes over Republican Tom Emmer holds up.

The taxpayer-funded recount is automatic because Dayton's lead is within a half-percentage point.

If Emmer overcomes Dayton's lead – a result most experts consider unlikely – the GOP would hold the governor's office and both chambers of the Legislature. Emmer could also sue if the recount confirms Dayton as the winner.

Officials got through more than 947,000 ballots on the first day, from roughly 63 percent of precincts. Dayton picked up 20 votes over his Nov. 2 totals for those precincts, while Emmer shed four. Emmer also challenged three times as many ballots as Dayton, not counting those challenges deemed "frivolous."

The goal is to wrap up the recount by mid-December. On the first day, 56 of Minnesota's 87 counties finished their counts.

Across the state, the whir of heavy-stock ballots being sorted into piles for each candidate broke the silence in government board rooms and courthouses.

In St. Paul, ballot sorter Charlie Thompson added to the recount symphony, calling out votes as he built the piles for each candidate and another for now-forgotten third-party hopefuls – Dayton, Dayton, Dayton, Horner, Emmer.

"I'll be saying the names in my sleep," Thompson said.

Guided by the experience from a drawn-out U.S. Senate recount two years ago, armies of election judges and candidate volunteers dove into the work and some smaller counties finished fairly quickly. The day's results weren't scheduled to be published until later Monday night.

In Hennepin County, home to one-fifth of Minnesota's voters, election officials and partisan observers filled two penned-off areas. They cycled in and out of the counting, with fresh observers waiting their turn while watching the tedium. Hennepin isn't expected to finish all its ballots until next Monday, even with weekend shifts.

There were a few early fireworks as attorneys clashed over how challenged ballots should be handled, particularly those that officials had the power to deem "frivolous."

County elections manager Rachel Smith convened a closed-door meeting to get them on the same page.

Emmer attorney Tony Trimble said he wanted assurances the challenged ballots – even those considered frivolous – were not mixed in with the totals of verified candidate votes. Before the meeting, Trimble was heard threatening to go to court over the issue.

Smith ruled the ballots should be separated. The process was refined after the Senate recount in an attempt to head off flimsy challenges.

"`Frivolous' challenges are new this year, and so did we anticipate that this might create a little hiccup? Sure," Smith said.

Near the end of a day in which Smith expected some 65,000 votes to be counted, Smith said partisans challenged 20 ballots on what election officials considered legitimate grounds. More than 150 challenges were deemed frivolous, all but a handful from Emmer's side.

Trimble disputed that the challenges were frivolous.

" `Frivolous' is a very subjective term, and so if the challenger thinks something should be challenged, even if others think it's frivolous, the state canvassing board can make the determination, not a table judge, no one else," he said.

Larry Jacobs, the auditor/treasurer in western Minnesota's Renville County, said his staff had no trouble identifying frivolous challenges. Jacobs said the Emmer camp lodged 423 challenges – and 422 were frivolous. That's nearly 20 percent of Dayton's votes in the county. Because the challenges were deemed frivolous, the votes remained in Dayton's column pending possible canvassing board review.

Jacobs said the lead observer for Emmer's team, whom he couldn't identify, told him she'd been instructed to challenge any ballot with writing on it – even a ballot with a write-in in another race.

"We had one bona fide challenge," Jacobs said. "I think it was pretty easy for me to determine, but that's not my place."

Ken Martin, director of Dayton's recount team, said the Dayton campaign expected to have fewer challenges than Emmer's side.

"We don't need to go out there and try to make up ground and challenge every ballot, so it's much different than it was in 2008 when you had hand-to-hand combat," he said.

Challenges matter because they can temporarily keep votes out of candidate columns, distorting the numbers as the process moves along. In 2008, most of the challenges were either withdrawn later or overruled by the state canvassing board.

In St. Paul, Ramsey County elections manager Joe Mansky told the campaigns he wouldn't stop them from making challenges.

"If you challenge, then I'm not going to challenge you," Mansky said at the outset.

But he did nudge the campaigns into letting clear-cut votes count, reviewing challenged ballots one-by-one with the lead candidate attorneys. Some challenges stuck, others were withdrawn.

The disputed ballots carried questionable marks or goofy write-ins that challengers construed as potentially identifying the voter – a no-no under Minnesota law.

The first challenge in St. Paul came 17 minutes after election officials lugged the first sealed boxes containing ballots to 10 tables.

Emmer observer Bob Murray lodged it over a mark above a candidate's name on the back of a ballot, possibly signaling an identifying mark. Murray targeted another a few minutes later over a tailing mark above a completed Dayton bubble.

"It's probably going to come back OK. Just in case," he said to no one in particular. "Most likely it's going to go through." All three of his challenges were later withdrawn after Emmer's attorney conferred with Mansky.

One of the people sorting ballots, Luke Leadbetter, noted that there were fewer close calls because voters took more care with their ballots this year, crisply filling in ovals. "People did learn" from 2008, he said.

Challenges that remain will be decided next week by the five-member state canvassing board.

If all goes as planned, every ballot will have had a second look by Dec. 7, and stacks of disputed ballots will have been sent to St. Paul for the canvassing board to rule on. A winner could be certified by Dec. 14, although litigation could follow.

Dayton and Emmer have both created transition teams to build their administrations. The next governor is supposed to take office Jan. 3, but there's a chance departing GOP Gov. Tim Pawlenty could be pressed into longer service if the race isn't resolved by then.

Both candidates stayed out of public view as the recount got under way.

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IncredulousInNorthDakota
Never Surprised by Stupidity
07:40 PM on 11/30/2010
After reading about the "objections" being called by Emmer's people, it's obvious that the lawyers are not trying to find the winner, just create more billable hours for their firms.
Shakespeare's advice holds just as true today, if not more so...
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". - (Henry VI, Act IV, Scene II).
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
07:10 PM on 11/30/2010
Further proof that Republicans do not care what the will of the voters is, they will obstruct, challenge, whatever they have to do to win. This stalling tactic is just to allow Pawlenty to do more harm with an all Republican legislature.

Minnesota learned over the Coleman/Franken fiasco, maybe this time, they will complete their education on what not to do to nullify their ballots.

Now only if we could educate the twits who always vote for Bachmann to face reality, all would be well in Minn.
09:11 AM on 11/30/2010
Yes felons did vote in 2008. We all know that. What FOX didn't tell you is those votes were primarily for "Norm I stole Washington­'s wooden teeth Coleman". Franken won despite Republican cheating and so will Dayton L­OL!
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Kathleen Riley-Daniels
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11:09 PM on 11/29/2010
Minnesota -- Land of 10,000 Lakes, 10,000 taxes, and coming soon, 10,000 recounts. I can feel my tax dollars hard at work...
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:48 AM on 11/30/2010
Typical rethug, they think they should enjoy all the state has to offer but not pay any taxes. We pay taxes Kathleen so that hopefully we can safely drive across bridges.
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Kathleen Riley-Daniels
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09:01 AM on 11/30/2010
Are you talking about Emmer when you reference "typical rethug"? If it was in reference to me, thanks for the morning humor.

Thanks for the head's up on taxes -- I am "represented" by Mrs. Bachmann who isn't great about securing funding for bridge work. To be fair though, she actually isn't good at much besides polarizing commentary and self-promotion.

Have a great day!
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StellaRay
09:10 PM on 11/29/2010
Here's the problem we face in Minnesota. Emmer and his GOP cronies have nothing to lose---they've already lost---and everything to win by dragging this process out as long as they can. If they can continue to make legal challenges, Pawlenty continues to be Minnesota's governor until a certificate of election can be won by Dayton. Which means Pawlenty returns to a GOP Minnesota senate in January and can pass whatever he wants in weeks. This is what the GOP strategy is.

GOP attorney Trimble was active in the Franken/Coleman recount, he's an old hand at this. But he does have a bigger problem this time. While the Franken/Coleman race came in with around a 500 vote difference, Dayton leads Emmer by over 8,000 votes. I'm still hopeful that Minnesota's no nonsense, straight as an arrow approach to voting and recounts will render the GOP strategy useless, AND, that any attempt to prolong the obvious here will result in very negative publicity for the GOP. Folks here were plenty angry that Coleman prolonged the battle to the Minnesota Supreme court over far less ballots than this race---his reputation has still not begun to recover here.
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CabinAgue
We are ALL in this together.
10:45 PM on 11/29/2010
Agreed with everything you wrote.  I, too, am nervous they will find a way to string this out and let Pawlenty remain acting governor and do some serious damage before Dayton takes office.  It is going to be bad enough as it is, but we sure need the veto power, at least.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:53 AM on 11/30/2010
I don't think the rethugs will be successful in their attempts to thwart the will of the people as long this time. They already lost their first attempt at the Minnesota Supreme Court and I think people here have little patience with them. They sure will try though.
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Imzadi
Proud Progressive for decades
06:53 PM on 11/29/2010
"The goal is to wrap up the recount phase by mid-December. "

"`Frivolous' challenges are new this year, and so did we anticipate that this might create a little hiccup? Sure," Smith said.


Mark my words, Emmer along with Sutton will ensure this will be as long and drawn out as the Senate race. And in the end? Emmer will lose. Minnesotans may lose their faith in the process. And the state's coffers will lose unnecessary money.

What a sad state of affairs.
07:50 PM on 11/29/2010
Ha, there's no shot Emmer will win . . . Franken pulled off the largeest turnaround in US recount history under our Sec of State . . .

Dayton has a small lead this time.
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StellaRay
08:55 PM on 11/29/2010
No. Dayton has a comparatively huge lead this time----over 8,000 votes compared to a difference of a bit over just 500 votes between Coleman and Franken.
02:42 AM on 11/30/2010
"Franken pulled off the largeest turnaround in US recount history under our Sec of State"

With Republican and Independent State Supreme Court Justices overseeing the process.
06:45 PM on 11/29/2010
Will someone please explain to me, how is 8000 votes, to close to call? I understood the 300 or 400 vote difference that caused the Franken-Colemen recount, but an 8000 vote difference. Why is a recount even needed? EMMER YOU LOST, NOW GO AWAY.
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jbvbwysu
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09:50 PM on 11/29/2010
Minnesota state law requires a recount if the margin of victory is less than 0.5%. The gap between Dayton and Emmer falls just barely within that boundary.
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DrObvious
dissatisfied 99%er
06:30 PM on 11/29/2010
"millions" shouts the leadin   ...... that'd be 2.    you know, million ballots.  
 
and there's a real risk that we'll have a free and fair election for our governor,  though the race is close.
 
count on Republicans to trash the process until and only when their candidate wins.   otherwise, it is obviously rigged,  ballots in trunks,  ACORN registering felons and all the other nonsense they've already suggested, as before.  
 
why such Republican people - people who hate their fellow citizens for having a different political view ..... why do Republicans work so hard to take jobs in the government they hate so much?
04:25 PM on 11/29/2010
I was sorting out my sock drawer here in NJ and I found a few thousand ballots for Dayton. Anybody know where I should send them?
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
04:47 PM on 11/29/2010
Send them to Dick Cheney. He knows how to sue the Federal government in order to stop a recount and steal an election.
05:13 PM on 11/29/2010
Dick Cheney? You're still whining about Dick Cheney?

It's a long time since Grant Park...isn't it?
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sueinmn
05:10 PM on 11/29/2010
You have been watching Fox far too long. Our state carries good integrity of elections. Its the republicans who are sore losers and want to overturn every ballot possible. Atleast we dont have the hang tabls like Florida. As a counting observer (my day ended in a small county), we saw little reason to question anything. Both sides!
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05:25 PM on 11/29/2010
Gee Sue...someone who has made 12000 comments on this site - all clearly displaying a hard left ideology.

And you are a "counting observer".

My faith in the Minnesota recount process has been restored. I am sure you are fair and balanced.
04:02 PM on 11/29/2010
It was reported in today's Mpls Star Tribune that an Emmer challenger charged one ballot that was empty should be for Emmer.
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04:12 PM on 11/29/2010
Well, that does make some sense. If the oval on the ballot is not darkened in, it looks a lot like a zero, and if I had to guess who is best represented by a zero, it would be Tom Emmer
04:17 PM on 11/29/2010
lol...well ok then
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CarolinaYankee
04:43 PM on 11/29/2010
fanned, but I thought McCain was the one who went from hero to zero.
12:25 AM on 11/30/2010
Minnelusa, I'm an election official in CA, and all 58 of our counties have different ways of voting and I'm sure 58 ways of counting ballots. Is it the same in MN? Whether it was the recount in FL, Franken v. Coleman, or this recount, how can anyone say with a straight face that an unmarked ballot counts for one or the other? Election reform needs to start with accepted ways of counting ballots. We can work out what that means, but you can't have 58 different ways in a state.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
02:02 AM on 11/30/2010
The vote in Minnesota is uniform in every country. There were a number of things changed since 2008 to make it more difficult to present frivolous challenges. So fr it has been reported that the overwhelming number of frivolous challenges have come from rethugs and have been rejected by election judges.
storeysound
Zippy the Patriot?
03:40 PM on 11/29/2010
So if the recount goes against Emmer he can sue? Who's he going to sue? The voters who voted for Dayton?
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
04:48 PM on 11/29/2010
yes. they voted illegally. any vote not cast for Emmer is an illegal vote.
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Imzadi
Proud Progressive for decades
06:57 PM on 11/29/2010
Sadly, that is their mindset.
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JustJoy7
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02:12 PM on 11/29/2010
Minnesota is sick. They went through this same nonsense with Al Franken.
02:44 PM on 11/29/2010
And Franken won, eventually.
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BenzBunny1
04:52 PM on 11/29/2010
Can we send him back?
04:04 PM on 11/29/2010
Sick ? You mean because Minnesota has tough but honest election laws ?? Would love to know which state you live in.
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millcitymiss
24. Minneapolis. Dirty Minority Liberal Feminist.
04:35 PM on 11/29/2010
Yeah, I am pretty upset that the state I live in likes to make sure that every voter gets their vote counted properly. I wish they just threw all the votes in a fire and picked a winner out of a hat.
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intolleft
ObamaCare...getting you shovel ready
01:25 PM on 11/29/2010
SoS Project....'nuff said.
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
01:23 PM on 11/29/2010
Can we really expect that ALL the ballots cast will be represented in the recount? Oh wait! Franken found a way....so maybe there's a chance!
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
03:04 PM on 11/29/2010
Clark, you rethugs stole the big one in 2000 so I hardly think you have any right to cast stones.
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
03:16 PM on 11/29/2010
Then why did the NYT disagree with your point of view? They recounted and still fell short.
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CarolinaYankee
04:38 PM on 11/29/2010
fanned for truth
02:49 AM on 11/30/2010
Only if you can expect Republican State Supreme Court Justices to influence the election for a Dem.