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TCU Going To Big East Conference

STEPHEN HAWKINS   11/29/10 09:04 PM ET   AP

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FORT WORTH, Texas — TCU is getting out of future debates about whether the Horned Frogs deserve to be in a BCS game. They are joining a league with automatic access.

The Frogs won't have to be a BCS buster when they move to the Big East Conference, starting with the 2012 season. Win their new league and they will be guaranteed a spot in one of the big-money games.

In the latest restructuring of the college football landscape, TCU's board of trustees unanimously approved an invitation Monday to join the Big East in football and all other sports. The move from the Mountain West Conference becomes official July 1, 2012.

TCU athletic director Chris Del Conte said gaining automatic-qualifying status "was a big factor" in the move and gives the Horned Frogs "the greatest opportunity to compete for the national championship."

The Big East, currently with eight football teams, has one of six automatic BCS slots.

"Access got easier, not the road," said Frogs coach Gary Patterson, whose third-ranked Frogs (12-0) wrapped up their second consecutive undefeated regular season and Mountain West title with a 66-17 win at New Mexico on Saturday.

TCU is third in the BCS standings – the highest-ranked non-automatic qualifying team – and is in line for a chance to play for the national championship if Auburn or Oregon lose next weekend. The Frogs likely will play in the Rose Bowl if Auburn and Oregon both win.

"Who would have thought five years ago that the guaranteed fallback position is, you're going to the Rose Bowl, and one loss you're in the national championship?" Del Conte told a room filled with supporters and staff. "We're going to Pasadena, let's get fired up. We're going to the Big East, let's get fired up. ... It's a great time to be a Frog."

The pending departure of TCU continues a big shuffle for the Mountain West, which last summer announced that Boise State was leaving the WAC to join its league in 2011. That was expected to bolster the strength of the MWC and put the league in better position for possibly gaining an automatic BCS berth in the future. But now so much has changed.

Utah is leaving the Mountain West for the expanded Pac-12 and BYU is going independent. Fresno State and Nevada, and maybe Hawaii, are going from the WAC to the MWC in 2012 after TCU leaves.

"Today's intercollegiate athletics environment is very fluid," Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson said in a statement. "Our board of directors and directors of athletics, as they have throughout the history of the MWC and with even more focus recently, will continue to analyze the landscape and chart our course in the context of ongoing changes."

Thompson said there were "conversations already under way with potential future members."

Del Conte said losing BYU and Utah was a "significant blow" to the Mountain West.

"It was not the same league that we joined," he said. "It's not the same home that we bought, it's not same home we were invited to, and things changed, the landscape changed."

Boise State president Bob Kustra called TCU's decision disappointing "but not entirely surprising given the stakes of automatic qualification in the BCS bowl system and relative lack of access for non-AQ conferences." He said the Mountain West was still a good fit for his school.

TCU could help the MWC land an automatic bid to the BCS after the Frogs are gone.

TCU's excellent 2010 (and it's 2011 performance) will count toward the MWC's resume when the conferences are evaluated after the 2011 season.

BCS officials have said a non-automatic qualifying conference could earn an automatic bid for the 2012 and '13 seasons.

And if the Big East's BCS bid comes under scrutiny when the next TV contract ends after the 2013 season, TCU's 2010 season will also count toward the Big East's resume.

"It's too soon to speculate about what the BCS thresholds will be for the 2015 and beyond, but it seems likely that TCU's move will enhance the Big East's position," BCS executive director Bill Hancock said in an e-mail.

The Big East has schools in nine of the nation's 35 largest media markets and will being adding Dallas/Fort Worth, the fifth largest.

"Located in one of the top five media markets in the country, TCU also enables the Big East to extend its media footprint, which already encompasses more than a quarter of the country," league commissioner John Marinatto said.

The only current Big East team ranked in the AP poll is No. 23 West Virginia (8-3, 4-2 Big East), which is 24th in the BCS standings. Connecticut (7-4, 4-2) could get the league's automatic BCS spot.

TCU might not be headed to a BCS game without Boise State's loss Friday night in overtime at Nevada. Had the Broncos remained undefeated, there was a real possibility that the Broncos could have passed the Frogs in the BCS standings and been the only non-AQ team to get into one of the top-level bowls.

"This is a great move," Patterson said. "I'll say this, we don't seem to get bored around this place. ... The one last mark people have held against in recruiting is that we were not an automatic qualifier. Now that's been erased."

TCU was a BCS buster for the first time last season, then lost to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.

The Frogs have won 25 consecutive regular-season games, and 38 of 41 overall. The only losses in that span were in the Fiesta Bowl, and games at Oklahoma and Utah.

"Coach Patterson's done a great job there and has brought an awful lot of exposure to themselves just because of the success that they've had," South Florida coach Skip Holtz said. "Probably over the last five years, (they) have been one of the leaders in this whole BCS busters thing, and they've done it on a consistent basis. They've proven that they can compete at that level, that they're deserving of having the opportunity to be in a BCS conference."

Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich believes TCU is "a great addition" to the Big East, and has no problem with the league expanding so far west.

"Hey, the Big 12's got 10, the Big 10's got 12," Jurich said. "Why should we be any different?"

With all TCU sports moving to the Big East, it will create a 17-team basketball league.

Marinatto said the league was aware of the logistical issues associated with having 17 basketball teams and nine football teams and that those issues would be addressed. He wouldn't discuss the possibility of even more schools being added to the league outside of what the league previously stated.

Villanova, which won the FCS national championship last season, has been considering moving up in classification in football and joining the league in which their basketball teams and other sports are already a member.

"We are excited about the addition of TCU, as they bring a great deal of value to the Big East," Villanova AD Vince Nicastro said Monday. "However, our timeframe has not changed. We are continuing to move forward with our comprehensive evaluation of FBS level football, and are still targeting a decision by the spring of 2011."

The Big East will be the fourth conference for TCU since the Southwest Conference broke apart after the 1995 season and the Frogs weren't among the Texas schools that became part of the Big 12.

TCU was in the WAC from 1996-2000 before going to Conference USA for four seasons and then joining the Mountain West in 2005.

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AP Sports Writers John Kekis in Syracuse, N.Y., Will Graves in Louisville, Ky., Dan Gelston in Philadelphia, Tim Booth in Seattle and Ralph D. Russo in New York contributed to this report.

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05:51 PM on 11/30/2010
it's about time they get into a new conference. hopefully if these weaker conference power house teams get into the bcs conferences then maybe there won't be so much talk about where they should be at the end of the season
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aidendamien
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04:20 PM on 11/30/2010
This is actually a decrease in competition. The Big East and the ACC should be banned from BCS bowls until they get their act together.
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eldorado81
03:53 PM on 11/30/2010
At least TCU will be playing somebody other than Tennessee Tech and the little sisters of the poor now.Travel should be a pain though.
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Quotidien
06:54 AM on 11/30/2010
Time to rename the Big East
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mivogo
Single standard truth and democracy
06:49 AM on 11/30/2010
With the Alice in Wonderland, senseless quality of the BCS, it's no wonder that Texas Christian University winds up in the "east." Can't wait for Nevada to join them.
03:59 AM on 11/30/2010
How can anyone seriously consider TCU for the national championship game . TCU may be unbeaten but they have played the 74th toughest schedule ...... get real .
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huffponewbie
12:53 AM on 11/30/2010
They are just scared of the UNM Lobos!
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jukesgrrl
Hands off SS, Medicare & Medicaid
12:43 AM on 11/30/2010
Texans and Christians ... sure says "east" to me.
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09:55 PM on 11/29/2010
Rose Bowl: Wisconsin 31 - TCU 23
.....vaunted Frogie defense.........meet the TRUE Big Red Machine...
08:59 PM on 11/29/2010
Wouldn't it be funny if the Big East lost its AQ standing with the BCS? They should with the garbage they put out every season.
04:38 AM on 11/30/2010
BCS Conference records

Big East: 6-6
ACC: 2-10
MWC: 2-1
WAC:2-1

The ACC would lose it's BCS bid before the Big East if anything. Also, don't blame the Big East for the raid by the ACC. The ACC was suppose to be better, but Miami and BC have floundered.
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linton
Perseverance is one short race after another.
07:52 PM on 11/29/2010
It is all about the money for the schools and AD's.
06:17 PM on 11/29/2010
The Ohio State AD complains that Boise State and TCU play against "the Little Sisters of the Poor", but now TCU will be playing a WEAKER in-conference schedule, and will be able to play many more FCS/MAC/Sunbelt teams OOC and still waltz into a guaranteed BCS bowl game.

I hope TCU is a quick learner and gets all the weakest schools available on the OOC schedule immediately. That would accentuate how all the BCS "power teams" game the system.
06:14 PM on 11/29/2010
This is a smart move for TCU, but a bad move for college football.

Why stress over having to go undefeated in a tougher Mountain West conference when you can coast to a BCS game with 4-5 losses in the Big East?

The other upside here is that TCU and Utah (after a year of rebuilding, perhaps) will have a direct path to BCS games while Boise State will still have the guaranteed Non-AQ spot available.

If you thought the SEC and BigTen fans were upset before, just wait until it's the upstarts Utah, TCU, and Boise State all getting into BCS bowls ahead of them.
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Ivyleaguequaker
I tend not to read comebacks.
11:45 PM on 11/29/2010
Utah will have a harder time in the PAC. TCU and BSU who knows what their future holds. TCU figured it out, but it's to the back of the line for Boise State as they stay in a Non-AQ conference, they won't get in front of any school in the BCS conferences.
01:30 AM on 11/30/2010
I agree with you except the comment about Utah. Last year and this year we were rebuilding. We'll be quite the powerhouse in the Pac 12 next season.
04:52 PM on 11/29/2010
Well, they'll be putting in a lot of air miles
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Ivyleaguequaker
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11:46 PM on 11/29/2010
Not much more then they do when they travel to San Diego State, Wyoming, and Utah.
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Reyeshawk13
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02:28 AM on 11/30/2010
People have no concept of the distances involved when you are talking about TX and travel. If you drive from Dallas to Los Angeles, when you reach El Paso you are halfway there, but you're still in TX. If you go the same distance east, you will cross completely through Louisiana and Mississippi.
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Smurfaveli
"Riding his horse thru tooooown." *Palin voice*
04:31 PM on 11/29/2010
Well at least my UConn Huskies will have more opportunity in the spotlight playing this overrated team.