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All Talk: Voters Want Spending Cuts But No Consensus On How To Walk The Walk

First Posted: 11/30/10 01:42 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

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As the plan to freeze federal employee pay makes clear, politics on Washington since the election has focused on ways that the government can cut spending and reduce the federal budget deficit. The Obama administration appears ready to concede the point made so frequently by incoming House Speaker John Boehner and other Republicans that it became the butt of a Saturday Night Live skit. "The American people," Bohener argues, "want us to focus on their message during the election: Stop the spending."

But do they? The best answer we have from opinion surveys is mixed. Yes, a majority of Americans and voters want to reduce unspecified spending and cut the federal budget deficit. But that's as far as the consensus goes. When asked about specific measures, especially those that go beyond symbolism, Americans are far from agreed on what to cut, and they offer tepid support (at best) for measures that might actually bring the federal budget into balance.

Let's review some recent polling data. Most Americans do voice concerns about budget deficits and unspecified spending. An AP-CNBC poll released just this morning, for example, finds that 69% of Americans consider the federal budget deficit to be extremely important (37%) or very important (33%). But keep that number in perspective: Respondents to the same survey rated other issues even more important, including the economy (90%), unemployment (82%), health care (79%) terrorism (75%) and taxes (70%).

AP's report emphasizes another more dramatic-sounding result from a question asked later in the survey: 85% say they are very or somewhat worried that "increasing the federal debt will harm the financial future of your children and grandchildren," a result that is "the strongest expression of concern since AP polls began asking the question in 2008."

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The change is abrupt, as illustrated in the above chart. In surveys conducted between September 2008 and October 2010, expressions of concern about the increasing deficits were remarkably consistent, ranging between 79% to 81%. But then on the latest survey, the total concern number jumped to 85%. Why? And why the inconsistency with the importance rating of the federal budget deficit, which fell slightly over the same time period?

A big clue is the new question inserted into the survey just before the item about worries over the deficit causing financial harm: "How likely is it that the current size of the federal budget deficit will cause a major economic crisis for this country in the next ten years?" Before trumpeting the apparent spike in worry about deficits, analysts ought to at least consider that the order of questions artificially primed worries about the deficit on the most recent AP-Gfk survey.

That said, there is no question that a majority of Americans worry about government spending and budget deficits. Consider the most recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll which presented a list of issue positions and asked voters to assess whether each one was a reason for their vote. Of 16 items tested, "supported cutting federal spending" ranked first, with 66% saying that position was a major reason to support a candidate.

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No other item came close, although ironically, the highest-ranking reason to vote against a candidate was support for a specific spending cut advocated by many Republicans, "abolishing some federal agencies, including the Department of Education" (55% major reason to oppose).

So we do have evidence that a large majority of voters would like to see cuts in "spending." But what spending do they want to cut?

The same NBC/Wall Street Journal poll also included a series of questions on the draft report released by the co-chairs of President Obama's Debt Commission. The first described the draft proposal:

Recently President Obama created a Deficit Commission of Republicans and Democrats to recommend a plan to reduce the federal deficit. The proposal would reduce deficits by about four trillion dollars over the next decade. To get these savings, the commission recommends 75 percent come from spending cuts and 25 percent come from increases in tax revenues. Spending reductions include cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and defense spending. The tax increases include higher gasoline taxes, lowering the corporate tax rate but limiting business tax deductions, and placing a limit on the tax deduction for homeowners with mortgages over five hundred thousand dollars. Now, overall, do you think this proposal is a good idea or a bad idea? If you do not have an opinion either way, please just say so.

On this question, only a quarter of American adults (25%) said the plan was a good idea, 40% said it was a bad idea and the rest (35%) had mixed feelings or no opinion. Those who said they voted in the mid-term elections consider it a bad idea by a 42% to 28% margin.

Also, as the Wall Street Journal's report pointed out, Republicans were more negative about the plan than Democrats. Only 17% of Republicans called the plan a good idea compared to 28% of Democrats.

The survey went on to probe respondents about three specific elements of the draft plan. As the table below shows, the least popular idea is the notion of "spending cuts to reduce the federal deficit that would include such things as cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and defense spending." Only 27% of Americans say they are comfortable with the idea, with the overwhelming majority (70%) either not very -- or not at all -- comfortable. The results were very similar among those who voted in 2010.

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The new AP-CNBC survey found the same lack of support for specific budget cutting measures:

As for detailed cures, the poll shows little agreement -- a problem that has long bedeviled lawmakers who often speak about taming federal deficits but seldom vote to do so. Given more than a dozen options for helping balance the budget, majorities backed just four: Reduce the number of federal workers, trim their salaries, cut overseas military bases and eliminate the tax deduction on home mortgage interest in exchange for lower income tax rates.
"I'm sure there's waste somewhere," said Terri Davis, 44, a travel company employee from Ashburn, Va. "But I like a lot of government programs that keep order in the streets, that do research about what's dangerous. A lot of things are worthwhile."

The AP-CNBC survey tests more targeted reductions in Medicare and Social Security benefits and finds division even on reducing benefits for the wealthy. These include "reducing Medicare benefits for seniors with higher incomes" (45% favor, 43% oppose) and "reducing Social Security benefits for seniors with higher incomes" (44% favor, 46% oppose). By margins of 20 points or more, they also reject various proposals to scale back military and homeland security spending:

  • Reducing research on advanced military weapons systems - 39% favor, 49% oppose
  • Reducing federal government spending on homeland security - 34% favor, 54% oppose
  • Freezing the non-combat pay of members of the military - 28% favor, 55% oppose
  • Reducing the number of people in the military - 26% favor, 61% oppose

Taken together, these data suggest that when Americans call for cuts in "spending," they mean something other than Social Security, Medicare and much of the military. But that preference puts 61% of the federal budget off-limits, according to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. The data also help explain why policy makers tend to go for symbolic measures -- such as freezing the pay of government workers -- that offend relatively few voters.

So yes, a large majority of Americans say they want to cut government spending. But if policy makers want to be responsive to that particular "message," they will need to confront the gap that exists between the way voters perceive government spending and its reality.

Thanks to Public Opinion Strategies and Hart Research for sharing additional data from the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

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03:28 PM on 12/13/2010
Thanks for a great article. Go to my blog site comparing the great recession versus the Great Depression. There are some interesting comparisons on tax policy
http://www.wealthvest.com/blog/wade-dokken/4191/
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Bart DePalma
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01:16 PM on 12/01/2010
"As the plan to freeze federal employee pay makes clear, politics on Washington since the election has focused on ways that the government can cut spending and reduce the federal budget deficit."

This suggestion does nothing to actually cut spending. What Obama is calling a "cut" is actually declining to increase the baseline of spending.

Indeed, because the proposed "freeze" only suspends cost of living raises for two years, it is doubtful it will even stop raises through promotion in grade or step increases within grade.

In short, Mr. Obama has demonstrated yet again he is not serious about even the most modest spending cuts. No real surprise there. The man has increased spending by around 5% of GDP before his Obamacare costs really start biting.

Let's see if the GOP will do what voters elected them to do.
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ralphnovy
11:07 PM on 11/30/2010
Skewed, misleading poll.

"Voters want spending cuts"?

Sure.

And also to live forever.

So what?

More than anything else, they want peace, justice, food, shelter and honest government.

Blumenthal is a snarky, useless hack.
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ralphnovy
12:22 AM on 12/01/2010
gdi

Don't like "super user" and don't like purple.
07:59 PM on 11/30/2010
Classic liberal defense. You guys want less spending, but you just don't know what to cut, Oh well then. In a sense it's true, but in a sense it's a convenient lack of knowledge by the American people that the big government politicians take advantage of.

We had a balanced budget, actually we had a surplus back in 2000 under President Clinton. The world wasn't crumbling, people weren't dying in the streets, widespread disease and famine was not going on then. We had a balanced budget. There is waste everywhere from our foreign policy to Education that can be cut. Times are not that much different from 2000. It's not "unreasonable" or "old school" to think that we could have a balanced budget. We don't live in to "complex" a time to not have a balanced budget. Times have not changed so drastically that it's inconceivable to think that we could have a balanced budget now like the current President would have you believe.
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Ruthless1
Enough TEA already!
10:11 PM on 11/30/2010
Current President? Pay go ended when GWB entered office. Bush's accomplishments: Unfunded tax cuts and refund - debt, prescription drug coverage for the elderly - debt, two wars - debt, and TRAP 1 - debt. All payed for with borrowed money. Bush started this snow ball debt rolling down hill. It is really too bad McCain wasn't elected so he could be the one being blamed for this REP mess.
07:02 AM on 12/01/2010
We've also had 10 more years to age as a country. In 2000 most of the baby boom were in their prime working years, now they're entering retirement/medicare years. Clinton also halved the size of the army, to much republican criticism. That had to have some effect.
07:40 PM on 11/30/2010
Americans want a balanced budget, they just aren't willing to do any of the things that are required to get a balanced budget

Apparently we need to discover magic
08:02 PM on 11/30/2010
They don't know because of the fallacy that politicians create to make us think that all their spending is necessary. Naturally, you can see how they can get confused.
09:05 PM on 11/30/2010
Well yeah,I mean same with taxes, they think that taxes shouldn't be raised on the rich back to 60%

But you're right, I mean we could trim Defense down to $200 billion tops, that with the raise in taxes, would go a long way to fixing the deficit
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07:16 PM on 11/30/2010
I want to cut the salaries of the Congress Critters to the average of unemployment pay, since so many of them seem to think that the unemployed are living the life of Riley. Another cost saving would be taking away their subsidized (socialistic) health care. Let them "shop" for the best health care deal on the open market, since so many of them seem to think that is the best way.
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Ruthless1
Enough TEA already!
09:59 PM on 11/30/2010
Put it on the ballot for the next election. Eliminate socialized health care for congress! And eliminate their retirement benefits as well. After all it is suppose to be public service. Not self service.
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Frizzle Fry
gun owning liberal
07:03 PM on 11/30/2010
idiocracy
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"Mr. Cain instead decided to try to provide her wi
06:41 PM on 11/30/2010
The blunt fact of the matter is that the avg. US citizen doesn't know a whole lot about macroeconomics. They see that the government is running about a trillion dollars in the red, and they think that's bad. It is certainly a problem. So, like any person who is in debt, they think that an important thing the government can do is make cuts in its spending. They're right, but which spending? This is what no one can seem to answer.

At the same time, they want the recession to go away. Make no mistake, that was the issue in the midterm elections. The economy wasn't getting better fast enough, and the GOP made a lot of noise about the deficit, which conflated the deficit and the recession--two problems that call for very different solutions. By making the deficit into the leading issue, the GOP has found its rationale for pushing its agenda of unemployment cuts and killing employer based healthcare (along with other social spending) on one hand, which makes the recession worse, and extending ALL tax cuts on the other, which needlessly increases the deficit.

The GOP has stoked deficit fears in order to paint the Democrats as careless spenders, who hurt the economy. It's a blatant distortion, but they have managed to take the blame for the recession from Wall Street and pin it to the Dems and the deficit. It's pernicious electioneering, not a real effort to help the majority of Americans.
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RAYZR
Mourning the death of irony
06:31 PM on 11/30/2010
Another poster described the Bush tax cuts as the " Failed Bush Tax Policy". This should be the official name of the tax cuts for all Democrats. It should be as familiar to the ear as "Job killing tax increases" or "Failed stimulus" or "Common sense conservative values". When are the Democrats going to learn that no amount of explanation or logic is as as effective as a good punchy three or four word phrase. The Republicans have been very successful with their simple messages however nonsensical. Imagine how powerful a simple message would be if it had the additional benefit of being true!
05:49 PM on 11/30/2010
We need to spend until we bankrupt this evil nation so we can start over!
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Anym
Obama is GoldmanSachs
05:11 PM on 11/30/2010
Also gut the oil, coal, and corn subsidies.
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Anym
Obama is GoldmanSachs
05:11 PM on 11/30/2010
What this country needs is a tax receipt you pay your taxes and in the end you get a receipt showing what you paid for.
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shoegirl
05:45 PM on 11/30/2010
That may help people to see....not a bad idea.
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ander35
05:10 PM on 11/30/2010
One things is for sure, the deficit is real and has real consequences as we're now seeing in Ireland, Spain, Greece and etc.
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DXM
An extreme moderate
05:00 PM on 11/30/2010
None of this should be surprising. We have an entire generation who grew up believing that you can have everything you want but not have to pay for it. That explains everything from the Federal debt to personal debt. If decreasing the debt is important to so many people but they do not want to make any meaningful cuts to the Federal budget the only alternative is to raise taxes... of course we also have a whole generation of people whose math skills are so poor they can not understand this simple fact.
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ralphnovy
10:53 PM on 11/30/2010
"We have an entire generation who grew up believing that you can have everything you want but not have to pay for it. That explains everything from the Federal debt to personal debt."

All too true.

But....now....how to pay for it. WHO will pay for it? How, exactly, will we pay the piper? That's the rub. The greatest beneficiaries of this delusional thinking are saying that those who have benefited the least should do it. Does that sound fair to YOU? Doesn't to me.

This really isn't hard. Just restore the "progressive" income tax rates of the Eisenhower era. Presto, chango, deficit gone.

duh
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04:36 PM on 11/30/2010
The Department of Education serves no useful purposes.  It operates as the in-government lobbying arm of the NEA --- get rid of this multi-billion dollar boondoggle.  The Department of Energy has not fulfilled its mission of American Energy Independence, it has failed --- get rig of it.  Government control of the airwaves is silly in this era of mass communications and internet.  PBS and NPR are no longer needed --- cut the cord.
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nofriendofrepublicans
Mother friendly.
04:59 PM on 11/30/2010
How about we cut all subsidies to American corporations that have moved "off shore'?
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shoegirl
05:46 PM on 11/30/2010
Yes, I'd rather do that
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07:35 PM on 11/30/2010
How about we cut all subsidies period.  Every subsidy creates an unfair and distorted marketplace.
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Decorina
Hypocrisy means your karma ran over your dogma
05:06 PM on 11/30/2010
You forgot to include gun rights, George Soros, 9/11 Truthers et al.