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DADT Study: Pentagon Report Says Gays Could Serve In Military With No Harm

ANNE FLAHERTY and ANNE GEARAN   11/30/10 09:29 PM ET   AP

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The DADT study by the Pentagon shows that gays can serve in the military with no harm.

WASHINGTON — Gay troops can serve openly in the armed forces without harming the military's ability to fight, the Pentagon's top leaders declared Tuesday, calling for the 17-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" ban to be scrapped and pointing to a new survey to show most troops won't mind.

President Barack Obama, citing the troop poll, urged the Senate to repeal the ban before adjourning in the next few weeks, but there is still no indication GOP objections can be overcome with just a few weeks left in the postelection lame-duck session. Still, the survey did put new pressure on Republican opponents, led by Sen. John McCain, who say efforts to repeal the law are politically motivated and dangerous at a time of two wars.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the ban on openly gay military service "requires people to lie," and he called for quick Senate action.

"We spend a lot of time in the military talking about integrity and honor and values. Telling the truth is a pretty important value in that scale," Gates said as he released the Pentagon study showing that most people currently in uniform don't care about the ban.

Senate Democrats plan to force a vote in December. Senate Republicans were generally silent following release of the Pentagon recommendations for repealing the ban.

Although historic, Tuesday's recommendation that the military for the first time allow openly gay people came with a caveat that also frustrates many supporters of repeal. Gates wants an indefinite grace period while the Pentagon prepares for the policy change and phases it in.

"It would be unwise to push ahead with full implementation of repeal before more can be done to prepare the force, in particular those ground combat specialties and units, for what could be a disruptive and disorienting change," Gates said.

Critics led by McCain say the Pentagon's report doesn't address risks to morale and fighting mettle. Gates countered: "I obviously have a lot of admiration and respect for Senator McCain, but in this respect I think that he's mistaken."

Obama has called it a top priority to repeal the 1993 law that bans openly gay service. But gay rights groups have complained that he and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have done too little to see it through, focusing their postelection efforts instead on tax cuts and a nuclear arms treaty with Russia before Republicans gain congressional strength when lawmakers return in January.

In the report, the study's co-chairs, Pentagon General Counsel Jeh Johnson and Army Gen. Carter Ham, wrote, "We are both convinced that our military can do this, even during this time of war."

Gates said he didn't think the Pentagon would have to rewrite its regulations on housing, benefits or fraternization to accommodate gays if they were allowed to serve openly.

A defense policy bill that would overturn the law – pending certification by the Pentagon and the president that doing so wouldn't hurt the military's ability to fight – has languished in the Senate since it passed the House this spring.

In the meantime, a federal judge ordered the Pentagon to stop enforcing the law because it was unconstitutional. The Obama administration is appealing that decision.

"Given the present circumstances, those that choose not to act legislatively are rolling the dice that this policy will not be abruptly overturned by the courts," Gates said.

Obama said in a statement released by the White House: "Today I call on the Senate to act as soon as possible so I can sign this repeal into law this year and ensure that Americans who are willing to risk their lives for their country are treated fairly and equally."

The president noted that the Pentagon survey had found most service members willing to serve alongside openly gay and lesbian troops, and said: "I am absolutely confident that they will adapt to this change and remain the best led, best trained, best equipped fighting force the world has ever known."

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said repealing the ban was discussed during a two-hour meeting Tuesday between Obama and lawmakers and was the sole focus of a session Monday with the military service chiefs. He declined to provide more details.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday he agreed with Gates that "this is a policy change that we can make and we can do it in a relatively low-risk fashion," given time to prepare forces and leaders for new rules and expectations.

Advocates for repeal said Congress was running out of excuses to change the law before the courts do it for them. The Justice Department is fighting the recent federal ruling that the 1993 law is unconstitutional.

"For senators who were on the fence – Republicans as well as Democrats – this report should address most if not all the concerns that they have raised," said Aubrey Sarvis, executive director of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a pro-repeal advocacy group.

The Pentagon survey found that some two-thirds of troops don't care if the ban is lifted. Of the 30 percent who objected, most of them were in combat units.

Opposition was strongest among combat troops, with at least 40 percent saying repeal would be a bad idea. That number climbed to 58 percent among Marines serving in combat roles.

A summary of the report said 69 percent of respondents believed they had already served alongside a gay person. Of those who believed that, 92 percent said their units were able to work together and 8 percent said the units functioned poorly as a result.

"We have a gay guy. He's big, he's mean and he kills lots of bad guys. No one cared that he was gay," the report quotes a member of the special operations force as saying.

The report says that many gay troops would be likely to keep their sexual orientation quiet even after the ban was lifted. That discretion would probably be more common in the military than in the civilian world, the report's authors said.

Of those respondents who said they were gay, only 15 percent said they would want that known to everyone in their unit.

The summary included anonymous quotes from gay troops currently serving.

"I will just be me," one person said. "I will bring my family to family events. I will put family pictures on my desk. I am not going to go up to people and say, 'Hi there. I'm gay.'"

Though some troops suggested during the study that there should be separate bath and living facilities for gays, the report recommended against it because it would be a "logistical nightmare, expensive and impossible to administer."

Further, separate facilities would stigmatize gays and lesbians in the way that "separate but equal" facilities did to blacks before the 1960s, it said.

The report said commanders could address individual concerns on a case-by-case basis.

Reid, D-Nev., has promised a vote on the matter by the end of the year, after hearings can be held this week. But if he fails, the bill's chances of survival are dim as the new Congress takes over in January. Republicans have seized control of the House and the Democratic majority in the Senate becomes even more narrow.

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Associated Press writers Pauline Jelinek and Julie Pace contributed to this report.

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07:32 PM on 12/01/2010
My friend writes a blog about being queer in the military...Favorite line? After explaining how hard it was for her to stay silent while her unit talked about how DADT was unnecessary because gays don't care about America: "When I get the Army's chain off from around my neck,
oh friends, people are going to know what a godd*mned queer was willing to do for them." Check it out...lot's more where that came from. http://combatqueer.typepad.com/
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01:33 PM on 12/01/2010
The country of Malta is a small island nation in the Mediterranean.  It is one of the smallest and most densely population countries in the world.  While freedom of religion is permitted, the official state religion is Roman Catholicism, and approximately 98% of the population follow it.
 
The kicker?  This tiny, extremely Catholic country permits gays to serve openly in the military.
 
What the hell is wrong with America that we are MORE provincial than Malta?
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07:32 AM on 12/02/2010
Hi, theerrantsoul--

Thanks for the bit of information about Malta. It's amazing that the US, even in the 21st century has DOMA and DADT on the books. To think that little-bitty Malta allows Gays to serve openly in their military and not us us most galling!

Peace...

-ez

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11:10 AM on 12/01/2010
What are they going to do about the shower and bunk situation? I think they have seperate it like they do females.
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Ioan Lightoller
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06:41 PM on 12/01/2010
Grow up! Straight women have more to fear from straight men than they ever will from lesbians.

Gay men (and of course lesbians) have learned to have far more self-control than most straights would even dream of having. We have to. Our jobs, even our very LIVES can depend on it.

Get your head out of ridiculous fantasies that are never going to happen.
08:08 PM on 12/01/2010
Grow up? So in military I can shower with females then? If they complain i will tell them to grow up.
08:45 PM on 12/01/2010
Also if a gay man makes it a point to tell another man he is gay. Why shouldnt the straight man not feel uncomfortable around him in the shower and the bunk?
06:51 AM on 12/01/2010
The 10th Commandment Against Homosexuality
"Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife nor his manservant", of course there is more but the rest is not relavent to this issue. It's clear as daylight that God didn't want you to take a man slave and use him for gay sex. Many people see the 10th commandment as a all encompassing law full of plurality/duality and coveting a subordinate man for sex is forbidden. When you add all the other antihomosexual laws in the Bible to the 10th commandment you can easily understand God doesn't want you having gay sex.
If evolution is the future of mankind, then God after Evolution will follow. The Astronaut/King/God will validate the Bible as natures law.
08:56 AM on 12/01/2010
Wait, can I still have sl@ves?
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eve mahar
11:04 AM on 12/01/2010
Guess what? Some of us don't believe in the Bible or the ten commandments. You keep your religion, I'll keep mine. And the laws of our country have nothing to do with religion. Separation of church and state is there for a reason. It's for people like you.
06:48 AM on 12/01/2010
What a bunch of propaganda gibberish! Comparing a legitimate civil rights issue, racial discrimination with homosexual degeneration. The alleged "survey" lacks the clarity of defining maturity in it's participants. As we have always tried to have men and women with education combined with experience to direct us so as not to be lead by youths that have digressedformualted opinions. The end result being older people are usually in leadeship positions. We as intelligent humans have followed the trend for thousands of years, but the democrats are bent on putting kids at the top of our decision making process now? So who cares if the 17 to 30 year olds support the repeal, what does the 30 to 60 year old say?
This survey had best include the names of those polled, their rank,age, religious belief, sexual orientation, and whether or not they were offered any debate material or were preped in any way. They should have each and everyone of them brought before congress to testifiy and allowed to be rebuttaled by congress so as to see how many will change sides under pressure. And until that's done DADT should not even be considered.
10:38 AM on 12/01/2010
If we had done it that way, the Armed Forces would still be segregated.
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eve mahar
11:06 AM on 12/01/2010
the alleged survey? You mean the official survey done by the Pentagon? That's not valid enough for you? And you want people put under pressure to change their minds? And since when should we use surveys to establish equality and civil rights in this country?
06:44 AM on 12/01/2010
Gates says the gays have to lie and the military is all about honor and integrity, now isn't that an oxymoron? If gays had honor and integrity they would not lie to get in the military in the first place.
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eve mahar
11:08 AM on 12/01/2010
if DADT wasn't there they wouldn't have to. And many of them may not have known themselves that they were gay until later on. If the military is about honor and integrity, they shouldn't ask people to lie and hide who they are. Simple as that.
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03:17 AM on 12/01/2010
I just love watching the clips of McCain saying he would strongly consider overturning DADT if the military leadership said it should be done. Then, when they did, he said we should wait to see the results of this 10-month study. Now, the results are back, and he says it was just a promise made by an inexperienced candidate for president. I hope he's talking about himself.
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MadAs
Tuned-in science editor
12:57 AM on 12/01/2010
When it comes to global warming, McCain wants more study, more definitive data, more time.

When it comes to DADT, John wants more study, more definitive data, more time.

When it comes to a helping hand to those whose jobs the Repugnants off-shored, his Honorable-less wants more economic study, more definitive data, more time.

Just how much more study, more definitive data, more time did McCain's doctors ask for, or did they understand that time can run short.

Time is relentless Senator McCain and you're vendetta against this country for your 2008 defeat serves neither to your vindication nor to your long-past honor of service.
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llibsetag
09:49 PM on 11/30/2010
WHY must all of this be "approved" by Senator John McCain?

PENTAGON Leaders has verbally stated that DADT is a NON-ISSUE multiple times before Congress. PENTAGON has administered multiple "studies" & all of them have come to the conclusion the DADT is a NON-ISSUE. The Citizens of USA have spoken & The COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES has spoken that this is a Civil Rights Issue & that the time has come to end DADT in all of the branches of the military.

Yes, sir you are a War Hero & Veteran, but so are many others in Congress too. So, once again WHY do we have to even concern Senator McCain about this other that is "yea" or nay" vote on this issue.

Sit down. Shut up. Vote. Live with it. Retire.
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eve mahar
11:08 AM on 12/01/2010
F&F. Excellent points.
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MadAs
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09:22 PM on 11/30/2010
Gates vs McCain -- now who, oh who, is the most reasoned and thoughtful of the two?

Hmmm. It was Gates that promulgated a Ms. Palin to the national sceen -- right?
07:58 PM on 11/30/2010
"COULD SERVE?" They DO SERVE! Every day and since it began.
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filiusj
Expectation is the seed of disappointment
06:20 PM on 11/30/2010
We all work with gay people every day, including members of congress, but gays still can't serve in the military? What's a boy to do?
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snapshot1940
"We have met the enemy and he is us"
05:37 PM on 11/30/2010
I wonder what excuse John McCain can use now to try to delay the repeal of DADT.
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Superb1
Marine Viet-Vet.
05:35 PM on 11/30/2010
I know you are tired of seeing me post this but "one more time" is my mantra. One of the six Marines that raised the flag at Iwo was gay. Quickly, tell me which one he was............Give up? Good because it doesn't matter since the job got done. a former Marine.
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snapshot1940
"We have met the enemy and he is us"
05:42 PM on 11/30/2010
Semper Fi!!!!
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Superb1
Marine Viet-Vet.
07:50 PM on 11/30/2010
Semper Fi forever! for that you are f&f # 100
05:03 PM on 11/30/2010
Forget DADT-----Its just a distraction for Gay Marriage------
It like going to buy a new car and they throw in a full tank of gas---it basically a gimme-

Need a real leader to say Gay Marriage is simply a responsible thing to do and it good for the economy, stability of relationships, transfer of wealth etc etc---conservatives agree with that stuff and it all true-----its an apple on the tree---simply pick it. In mass----no one even talks about it---it basically accepted and a non issue----Hey dont get me wrong---if someone want to go to AFGAN ---under DADT my prayers are with them---but if anything WAIT TIL the War over first!