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DREAM Act Would Reduce Deficit Over Next 10 Years, Says CBO

First Posted: 12/03/10 03:15 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- A bill to create a pathway to citizenship for the children of undocumented workers would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over the next 10 years, according to a Congressional Budget Office report released Thursday evening.

But the bill, known as the DREAM Act, could increase the deficit in the long term as undocumented immigrants gain legal permanent resident status, according to the CBO. The potential price tag is likely to be seized upon by conservatives who oppose the legislation.

Over the next 10 years, the DREAM Act would increase revenues by $2.3 billion by increasing the number of authorized workers. This would lead to a $1.4 billion decrease in the deficit over the 10-year period, the CBO reported.

DREAM Act beneficiaries would be eligible for legal permanent resident status after 2020 if they completed either two years of military service or college-level education. After earning legal permanent resident status, they would be eligible for Medicaid, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and the federal heath insurance exchanges.

But this would in turn create higher costs for the government, the CBO reported. The CBO estimated the bill would increase projected deficits by between $5 billion and $20 billion between 2021 and 2061 after the first DREAM Act beneficiaries gain legal status.

Many undocumented immigrants currently pay into the system through payroll taxes, but do not receive these benefits in return.

"The goal is to set the rules so everyone is playing by the same rules," said Douglas Rivlin, a spokesman for Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.).

Proponents of the DREAM Act argue the CBO report does not account for the revenue increases that will come from the act as beneficiaries enter higher-paying jobs and pay more taxes. A recent study from UCLA showed DREAM Act beneficiaries would generate between 1.4 trillion and $3.6 trillion in income over a 40-year period.

The White House presented a similar argument when asked about the CBO score Friday morning.

"We don't think it fully takes into account what's going to happen when these people enter the work force and begin to make contributions to the economy," Cecilia Munoz, White House director of intergovernmental affairs, said on a conference call.

Still, conservatives will likely use the CBO's deficit number to criticize the bill, arguing it proves that the bill would create higher costs in the long term by allowing more immigrants to become legal residents.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who will helm the House immigration subcommittee next session, claimed in a statement Wednesday that Democrats were trying to obscure the potentially high costs of the bill. King charged that Democrats were keeping private a much less favorable CBO analysis that was done on an earlier version of the legislation.

"There are reports that Senate Democrats are covering-up an analysis showing that granting illegal aliens amnesty under the DREAM Act will cost upwards of $20 billion," King said. "If these reports are true, Democrats are willfully misleading Members of Congress, and the American public, about the costs of their open-borders agenda in order to secure support for their controversial amnesty legislation."

The House and Senate are expected to vote on the bill next week. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) delayed the bill after Senate Republicans pledged to block all legislation not related to taxes until the Bush tax cuts had been determined.

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WASHINGTON -- A bill to create a pathway to citizenship for the children of undocumented workers would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over the next 10 years, according to a Congressional Budget Of...
WASHINGTON -- A bill to create a pathway to citizenship for the children of undocumented workers would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over the next 10 years, according to a Congressional Budget Of...
 
 
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SonyaInTx
Money doesn't buy class.....
03:24 AM on 12/05/2010
Coward republicans.

They cry wolf about illegal immigration and then the Dream Act is put into place.....and the republicans don't want to pass it.

They are just throwing up smoke and mirrors to make Obama look weak, when he's been doing so much to clean up the mess left behind by the past republican admniistrations who did nothing about illegal immigration.

Hypocrites!
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Neapolitan
Reality has a liberal bias.
01:13 PM on 12/04/2010
"The potential price tag is likely to be seized upon by conservatives who oppose the legislation."

Ha! Conservatives will happily "seize upon" any reason or excuse that hides the innate hatred and fear many of their kind feel toward others different from themselves; doing so keeps them from having to actually announce to the world, "If you're not a white, straight, American-born, English-speaking person, we don't want you in our country; go away and stay away!"
01:45 PM on 12/04/2010
Foolish comment. I guess you think all immigrants are Latino or non white. Opposition to such legislation is not racially motivated, it is legal and due process oriented. Race ha no place in this conversation. To me you are the one who sounds like a bigot!
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Neapolitan
Reality has a liberal bias.
06:26 PM on 12/04/2010
Okay, allow me to rephrase:

"Of the hundreds of anti-immigrant people I have ever talked to, not a single one has ever failed to eventually admit that their primary motivation to keeping out others not like them was bigotry. Now, there may very well exist some who exhibit anti-immigrant behavior who are not actually bigots, although I can't vouch for this as I have never met a single one."

Is that better? ;-)
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gingerred
Proud lesbian conservative
03:47 PM on 12/04/2010
The Hidden price is when They as citizens Bring in their family and extended family to be granted legal status. That is Back Door Amnesty!
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
12:41 PM on 12/04/2010
pardon all the prisoners doing time for just having some marijuana, end the war on marijuana, and walk away with a $42 BILLION annual savings, creating jobs for hundreds of thousands of people, and further the cure for breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, skin cancer, MS, Alzheimer, and a plethora of others.
Just that easy.
$42 BILLION a year.
12:22 PM on 12/04/2010
If you believe this bunk, I have bridge to sell you. Here some facts.

* Would legalize about 2.1 million illegal aliens.

* Does not contain an English language requirement. We know that DREAM will grant amnesty to millions of non-English-speaking and limited-English-proficient illegal aliens without requiring specific steps to learn English. This will dramatically increase demands for taxpayer-funded multilingual government services, such as multilingual voting ballots, driver's license tests in multiple languages, translations for official documents and school textbooks, and government-mandated interpreters.

* Does not require recipients to have a record clean of all misdemeanors and felonies.

In fact, the provisions in all DREAM Act bills are so loosely written that most illegal aliens under the age of 30 or 35 would qualify.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
12:52 PM on 12/04/2010
you're starting the spread of misinformation so soon?
I don't know about misdemeanors (spitting on the sidewalk laws) but as for felonies?
No...that was established when the concept first came up.
We don't accept felonious perpetrators EXCEPT if it's a felony from the country in which they live.
For example, the fellow from China who won the Nobel Peace Prize...Liu Xiaobo...
We would gladly accept him, even though in China, his record calls him out to be guilty of high felony...

Felonies are funny things, are they not?
Here is a man who writes only for peace and freedom, and is a convicted felon.
We have similar incidences here, actually.
Some marijuana crimes are subject to life in prison with no case for parole.
Murderers get parole hearings.
Rapists get parole hearings.
Maddoff will get parole hearings.
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LynnTTT
04:00 PM on 12/04/2010
Everyone else estimates maybe 800,000 would be eligible. And it's a13 year wait for citizenship.
As far as English goes; these people must have been brought here before age 16 and have been here for 5 years. At this age they will have learned English just fine.
The latest version disqualifies illegal immigrants convicted of marriage and voter fraud, draft-dodging, smuggling and other misdemeanor and felony crimes.
They couldn't become citizens until 2014 and only then could they petition for immediate family.

face facts, we are not going to deport these people. Let them get in line, pay their taxes.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:19 PM on 12/04/2010
Everyone knows and I mean EVERYONE that you can solve the problem of the resident illegals without closing the border FIRST.

Why are we even talking about this. Seal the border first and then we can discuss humane options.

Any hint of amnesty at this point would create a stampede across our borders.
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KUjHwk
03:10 PM on 12/05/2010
This is not amnesty. Amnesty occurs when citizenship is conferred upon someone simply because of their existence in a country. Under the DREAM Act, citizenship must be earned. It is not automatically granted. Furthermore, the DREAM Act only applies to those young people who (1) are already in the country and (2) have lived here for at least 5 years continuously, so it this bill will not be a magnet for illigal immigration. It will not be available for persons not presently in the U.S.
Second, it's very naive of you that we will ever completely close our borders. We live in a global society. People will always find a way in. Also, it's impossible to deport the estimated 17 million undocumented persons presently in the U.S. A study just came out that found that it would cost the U.S. government upwards of $234 billion to deport this population. The U.S. govt can walk and chew gum at the same time - it can better secure our border from threats to U.S. safety while inacting humane immigration policy.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
01:05 AM on 12/06/2010
So if a bank robber who stole 50k was forced to give 30 of it back, give the other 20 to their kids who needed it, then let the robber go free would that be amnesty to you?

This scenario is very similar. These adults were brought here while kids but most are adults now and all had adults who knew better bring them here. So in order to feel good about that kid, we let them keep what their parents stole, have them meet some token requirements (which is full of loopholes and hardship waivers) then say it isn't amnesty because why?

They don't even have to pay the enormous costs associated with their paperwork, etc in order for them to stay, taxpayers would have to pick up the tab, again, to the tune of several thousand each.

If you think this is just then you must think convicted rapists sentenced a week doing community service isn't amnesty either.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:28 PM on 12/06/2010
I agree with almost everything you said. However, I don't see where I've contradicted you.

You can't conduct any program without somehow regulating the influx, other wise that line of those having been here more than five years just keep getting longer and longer.

Personally, I'd like to see us get the oil barrons of Mexico to invest in their own country rather than their next yacht. I know it won't happen because that thinking is so 'un_American.'
BigSuede
Not a Republican, Not a Democrat
12:16 PM on 12/04/2010
I have never read a report like this that had such a lack of cites or didnt discuss the process where they arrived to their estimates. The report claims that dream recipiants would increase revenue- but i am trying to determine what unemployment rate they are considering.

Our country is probably going into a decade of no growth- we are going to be overburdened carrying the citizens that we already have. It would be smart for our country to stop all immigration for the foreseeable future. We have a surplus of workers for very few jobs- Ironically- in the coming years, there will probably be more opportunity for these individuals in their country of origin
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Amakar
12:02 PM on 12/04/2010
Why are the loudest people shouting 'government out of our lives?' also shouting 'you need government approval to exist here'?

Why are the loudest advocates of 'free markets' so opposed to the natural movement of labor in response to opportunity?

Why are the so called followers of Christ so vehemently opposed to the poor trying to make their living?

Why do advocates of the hard-working family hate the people who do come here to work hard to support families?

Why do people feel entitled to local job creation at wages they like rail against entitlement? Why don't they relocate and take lower quality jobs if 'entitlement' is such a horrible thing?

Why do people who question the government constantly, and celebrate rebellions against senseless laws rabidly condemn people for breaking a law without actually questioning the merit of the law?

Why the hate?
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dtairtime
It is what it is
01:39 PM on 12/04/2010
Whole lotta assumptions there.

But you likely didn't know a large number of otherwise very liberal folks want no amnesty, in fact many want no immigration at all due to dwindling natural resources and environmental issues. I think about 30+ % of dems want no amnesty. About 40% supported the AZ law. That I'm sure you called racist and a rethug law.

You also probably didn't know that many wealthy, big business, chambers of commerce and wall street journal all support amnesty and pretty much open immigration because it will keep wages (and thus the lowly average worker) down. In fact all the big money players want what you seem to want.

But make yourself feel good by convincing yourself it's about hate, not money.
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KUjHwk
03:19 PM on 12/05/2010
If you're an econ persons or fiscal conservative, you should be 100% behind the DREAM Act. Why would you not support a bill that would give qualified and intelligent young people who have grown up here and graduated from high school a chance to pursue higher education and get higher paying jobs, thereby contributing more to the U.S. economy than they would if they were relegated to just a high school education and forced to work low wage menial jobs...especially when these kids are the cream of the crop, highly intelligent with skills coveted by employers. Either let them pursue their education or be ok with a class of low wage uneducated workers. And we all know what happens when education is denied a group of people - more crime.
02:19 PM on 12/04/2010
Why does the party promoting free and nonstop abortion at every turn gi e USA song and dance about the birth rate being so low we need to import and give citizenship to illegals in order to 'pay' for our entitlement programs in the future?
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11:48 AM on 12/04/2010
Lame duck shenanigans, bordering on criminal.. Dream Act is code word for Amnesty. Everybody knows this. Harry Reid and his ilk should be charged with treason. These elitist snobs will never have to deal with the ripple effect that this unconstitutional and racist bill would create. These snob elitists only care about securing the future vote of Hispanics. Meanwhile, for every illegal's son or daughter who gets into a school, that is one less natural born American who does not. This is not even remotely acceptable, and again shows the true colors of these corrupt , detached from middle America elites, who all need to be shown the door, including the Boehners, and McConnels.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:05 PM on 12/04/2010
What would you recommend besides doing nothing about this problem?
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12:30 PM on 12/04/2010
Here's a novel idea. I would recommend that, illegals be DEPORTED, NOT REWARDED with American citizen funded entitlements. BRILLIANT!!!!

They should stay in their native country, IF they are UNWILLING to participate in the same LEGAL PROCESS that every other foreigner seeking US citizenship must participate in. This whole idea of rewarding criminality all in the interest of securing a future voting bloc is as despicable as it gets, and preposterous beyond words.
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leo satx45
11:46 AM on 12/04/2010
The overwhelming majority of Americans find it smug, arrogant, militant and belligerent how these ILLEGAL-aliens flaunt their disobedience to our laws. It’s disgusting and disrespectful on so many levels. In addition, I must note, it’s only a pandering spectacle by Democrats because the “Scream Act” will never, ever, pass. It’s just that simple. ILLEGAL-aliens jump over the lines of millions of legal immigrants standing in line paying tens of thousands in fees, and praying for a chance to come here. What a disgrace. There is such a backlash brewing for Democrats, and it’s manifesting in a strong political change that’s evolving around issues of ILLEGAL-immigration. If ILLEGAL-aliens and their sympathizers believe it’s tough now, wait until the newly elected Republicans take office in January. 2012 is going to be another watershed moment for Democrats, just like the 2010 election in November. What a mess.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:06 PM on 12/04/2010
What would you recommend besides doing nothing about this problem?
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dtairtime
It is what it is
01:42 PM on 12/04/2010
Remove the many rewards and incentives for them to come here, take jobs badly needed by 30 million unemployed citizens, get social program money that should go to our own poor people who struggle and watch as they go home, on their own, at their own expense and on their terms.

Very fair and inexpensive.
martman1
retired business owner
09:52 AM on 12/05/2010
Increase the penalties for hiring illegal aliens. Include jail time and actually enforce these laws. You can bet the farm that the laws are not being enforced now because some politicians somewhere are being bribed.
11:37 AM on 12/04/2010
The CBO is at it again. Telling us something will save us money when it knows it won't.

Remember Obamacare? Before it was passed, the CBO claimed it would save billions. After it passed it turned out they, "overlooked," some things and Obamacare would actually be costing us billions...

Obama take your hands off the CBO and let it release untainted information.
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thepheonix
thepheonix..is that better Dems?
10:58 AM on 12/04/2010
DADT and the DREAM act. As you can see, the economy and jobs are AGAIN at the back door.
03:00 PM on 12/04/2010
So what are you saying that two groups are holding hostage the very legislative time that the entire country needs so desperately to focus on jobs and the economy, and that those two groups should be morally responsible for any American children that do without necessities that they may have otherwise had if not for the expense of these two groups selfishness? I mean, because if it is I agree.
10:55 AM on 12/04/2010
For those that only read the misleading 'headline'

"The CBO estimated the bill would increase projected deficits by between $5 billion and $20 billion between 2021 and 2061 after the first DREAM Act beneficiaries gain legal status."
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whitenoise007
John 13:30
10:32 AM on 12/04/2010
"Democrats are willfully misleading Members of Congress, and the American public, about the costs of their open-borders agenda "

ah, if only democrats could be as vocal about the republicans "willfully misleading" the public; we probably wouldn't be in a near-Depression economy right now. we'd have saved that 3 trillion dollars it's cost us to invade and occupy a country that did us no harm, to invade and occupy another country in an un-winnable war, to set up secret prisons and reclassify prisoners of war (no democrat has ever asked the logical: how can we be at war, and yet not have prisoners of war?). but alas, a worm is a worm.
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InBirmingham
In 2013 Obama's only a memory
11:30 AM on 12/04/2010
Nevermind the fact that the majority of Democrats in Congress voted in favor of that war. Let's just overlook that fact.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:09 PM on 12/04/2010
Dial it back bro. Who would have voted against mushroom clouds and WMD invasions spelled out clearly (and erroneously) by Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld?

What we learned is never, never trust a Republican.
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12:00 PM on 12/04/2010
Dude, are you still playing the same broken record? Do you not realize that democrats, signed on for, and approved spending for the Iraq, Afghanistan wars? Do you not realize that Democrats have been in control of congress and spending, NOT since 2008, but since 2006? Do you not realize that Bill Clinton implemented policy that forced banks to lend mortgages to bottom of the barrel credit score applicants who couldnt be trusted to pay a utility bill? Ever hear of a little thing called the housing bubble? You can thank the dems , and Tricky Willy for that.

whitenoise, this blame game has no credibility. More importantly. Pelosi has added 5 TRILLION sinece 06, and Obama has added 3 TRILLION to the debt in LESS THAN 2 years, with what to show for it? Get a grip, and get a clue.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:14 PM on 12/04/2010
The Banks do NOT have much of a record of being FORCED to do anything. And, definitely not one under a Republican administration.

The cluprits of the housing crash are Reagan, Phil Grahm, the Republican Party, Greenspan, and Bush. In that order.

Try to sleeze an escape all you want but you won't get away with it.

Get a clue f00L.
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Dawg1000
ⒹⓇ. ⓇⓄⓃ ⓅⒶⓊⓁ
10:27 AM on 12/04/2010
Round em up & move em out !
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
12:15 PM on 12/04/2010
Yeah, that'd makes some interesting video of America.