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MI-2012 President: 47% Obama (D), 43% Romney (R) (PPP 12/3-6/10)

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First Posted: 12/07/10 02:15 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

PPP
12/3-6/10
1,224 Registered voters (2.8% margin of error)
Mode: Automated phone
(PPP PDF)

Michigan

2012 President
43% Romney, 47% Obama
37% Gingrich, 52% Obama
39% Huckabee, 51% Obama
35% Palin, 56% Obama
38% Snyder, 49% Obama

Job Approval / Disapproval
Pres. Obama: 50 / 45

Favorable / Unfavorable
Newt Gingrich: 28 / 50
Mike Huckabee: 37 / 40
Sarah Palin: 34 / 60
Mitt Romney: 39 / 37
Rick Snyder: 48 / 26

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11:58 PM on 12/07/2010
So we just need to make sure that Romney isn't the nominee
10:21 PM on 12/07/2010
The "only" thing worthy of comment on this poll is that once again against Romney Obama performs far below his election results in 2008. He won MI with 57 percent, now he polls at 47????????? That is a 10 point drop in support from those who voted for him and say they would not vote for him again. And yet again, he is below 50 in a state he won.

Right now the key is only how well Obama is doing in these states, not a potential opponent. So far PPP has him doing much much worse is every state they have polled than he did in 2008. A sign that Indy voters and what GOP support he got in 2008 have faded away. Not that it cannot change, but at this point, if the election were tomorrow, he would be in deep trouble.
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03:26 AM on 12/08/2010
Hmm yes, comparing an actual result with the poll itself. My statistics teacher would have failed you Stillow.
10:17 AM on 12/08/2010
Then your reality teacher must have failed you....cus that is what we do here...compare elections, polls and other related data. Its obviously noteworthy that Obama's polling numbers state by state are running well below his election results from only 2 years ago. If you don't think thats a relevant point of interest, you might be hanging out i nthe wrong kind of blogs. Perhaps a nice blog on carrot cake recipe's....or a blog about hair loss? Something less complex perhaps.
10:23 AM on 12/08/2010
...and these are not approval polls X....these state PPP polls are asking who you owuld vote for for president. If Obama gets 57 percent of the vote on election night two nights ago...and now running against Romney only 47 percent say they would vote for him again....you don't think thats a relevant comparison to the current status of Obama's prospects for keeping the WH? If not, then its not perhaps, its definitely that you are hanging out o nthe wrong type of blog.
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05:35 PM on 12/07/2010
PPP is really throwing out a narrative for the election.
06:01 PM on 12/07/2010
Which is what, exactly? The way I see it, Obama seems to be in a decent position for 2012, though by no means fantastic. Anything could happen between now and then, and a ton depends on who the GOP nominee actually is.
06:42 PM on 12/07/2010
Their sample was eight points more Republican than last time...what do you want them to do? Cook the books to favor the Republican? They just report what they find.
05:11 PM on 12/07/2010
I get easily annoyed by pundits pronouncing an ideological sea change in the midwest, as though bluer-than-blue states like Wisconsin and Michigan have suddenly realized that unions and high taxes are the job-killing banes of economic vitality. I WISH that were the case, but the midwest has a long-entrenched liberal streak that will keep them voting Democrat for a long time. If someone thinks that Ohio, for example, is now a permanent red state, they are deluded. The midwest votes instincitvely for the pocketbook. It's possibly the most conceivably un-ideological place in the world, where the most important issues tend to be jobs, jobs, more jobs, and maybe then the outsourcing of jobs. In four years when there is still no job growth in the midwest, don't be surprised to see the talking heads clamoring about how blue the region has turned.
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05:17 PM on 12/07/2010
There is actually an antiquated arm of the Democratic party that is pro-agriculture that easily translates into votes in the Midwest. The agriculture debate is pretty muddled between local Republicans and National Republicans and thus have a limited ability in penetrating homes that have voted Democratic for generations.
04:12 PM on 12/07/2010
Romney needs to win his home state of Michigan to have a real shot at winning. Would've expected him to do much better here.
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03:08 PM on 12/07/2010
Not a bad poll for Michigan, considering their economy is in the dumps. Perhaps the improvement of the auto industry and Obama's steps to help regulate that is starting to get noticed. Any Republican would have a tough time winning Michigan in a presidential election.

Colorado, Nevada, Florida, Ohio, PA, Wisconsin, NC, Virginia, and NH will be Obama's real test.
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05:05 PM on 12/07/2010
I would actually expect Obama to do better than he did in 2008 in Michigan considering he essentially saved the remnants of their economy.
05:13 PM on 12/07/2010
Those are toughies, but I think Obama will do much better in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin than you think. Despite the formiddable opposition to Obama in those states, they are still definite Democrat-leaners.

Colorado, North Carolina, and Florida are probably going to be conceded surprisingly early in the election by the Democrats. Obama still can and may win, but he won't do it with those states.
05:58 PM on 12/07/2010
I think Obama will have a much harder time in New Hampshire, especially if Romney is the nominee, than in Colorado. I also think he has a better chance of winning Virginia than he does Ohio.