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Tax Cut Deal: Dean, Ex-Obama Advisers Lament President's Plan

First Posted: 12/07/10 11:26 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

Howard Dean

WASHINGTON -- Obama's decision to craft a deal with Republicans on the Bush tax cuts may have been, as administration officials insist, the product of economic and political necessities. But it has created deep reservoirs of distrust with the president's ability to handle high-stakes negotiations and has compelled even former staffers to level blunt criticisms about the White House's politics.

"I think the president made a huge mistake in supporting any extension of tax cuts," said Steve Hildebrand, the deputy national director of Obama's presidential campaign and a strategist who has long grown sour on Washington. "We can't afford it as a country, and we should recognize that. We need his leadership and bipartisan congressional leadership on it. And the whole idea of negotiating with Republicans who won't negotiate in good faith, it is not the direction the president should be taking."

Hildebrand -- while hesitant to discuss politics over policy -- was reacting to the deal reached Monday evening that would extend the Bush tax rates for two more years in exchange for a 13-month extension of unemployment benefits and other tax cuts provisions the president has long favored. He wasn't the only former Obama hand to speak critically about such an exchange, but the first since the administration announced the deal.

That none of the measures would be paid for was a major problem, Hildebrand and other Democrats stressed. Writing hundreds of billions in tax cuts was simply incompatible with supporting long-standing safety net programs, let alone protecting the country's long-term fiscal security.

"We clearly have to deal with the deficit; it is probably the biggest problem facing the country," said former DNC header Howard Dean. "But you can't deal with the deficit from a political point of view if you say to Democrats, we are going to cut Social Security and Medicare and, by the way, give tax cuts to those who make a million dollars a year."

Antipathy, however, was saved as much for the process of securing the final tax cut package as for the substance of the package itself. Suggesting that the deal could die in the House, Dean echoed a question other Democrats offered in the hours after Obama's announcement: Was enough secured in return?

"I'm not so sure you can get the House to agree to this in conference committee," he said. "And what about the president's other priorities: Don't Ask Don't Tell, START, DREAM Act? I mean, do we not get anything for the $700 billion?"

Certainly, Democrats got something, perhaps even more than expected. Discussing the arrangement with the Huffington Post, senior administration officials stressed that even the labor federation "AFL-CIO did not think...we could keep" the 13 months of unemployment insurance. The actual cost of the provisions that the White House secured, meanwhile, was pricier than the cost of extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich -- $215 billion (including UI) versus $95 billion, all over two years.

And so it wasn't entirely surprising that some more progressive-minded columnists and economists opined favorably (albeit with caveats) about the final package.

As Ezra Klein noted, "the end result is between $200 and $300 billion more in tax breaks, tax credits and unemployment insurance" that is, effectively, a stimulus.

And yet, for skeptical lawmakers, it was hard to ignore how bungled the entire process seemed to be. What could the president have gotten had he stood a bit firmer in negotiations?

"I don't like this at all," Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said. "The president has not put up much of a fight."

Moreover, why should the caucus trust the White House to re-litigate this same battle when the tax rates expire two years from now?

"My view is that if you've got a problem, deal with it now and you don't kick it down the road for later," Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), who is whipping members to oppose the deal, told the Huffington Post. "Two years from now, we are going to have the reality of a Republican majority in the House, and we know their point of view on this. They will be for more tax cuts and higher deficit...this was our best chance."

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WASHINGTON -- Obama's decision to craft a deal with Republicans on the Bush tax cuts may have been, as administration officials insist, the product of economic and political necessities. But it has cr...
WASHINGTON -- Obama's decision to craft a deal with Republicans on the Bush tax cuts may have been, as administration officials insist, the product of economic and political necessities. But it has cr...
 
 
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SilentSolidarity 01:00 PM on 12/07/2010
Repub Clowns. If you don't pay taxes would still have to purchase the same services (police, military, fire fighters, SS, Medicare, road construction and maintenance etc.) over the private market. Now, I try to get something in that thick head of yours.
Paying for all services separately in a private market for the same quality would cost you MORE than paying income taxes simply because companies  Read More...
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RumiSouth
Caerbannog!
12:41 AM on 12/15/2010
"And yet, for skeptical lawmakers, it was hard to ignore how bungled the entire process seemed to be. What could the president have gotten had he stood a bit firmer in negotiations?"

What might Democrats have gotten by dealing with the oligarch tax cuts BEFORE the election, or at any time in the last year? The president solved a crisis they made, so you'll excuse me if I don't think they get to pile on.

"Moreover, why should the caucus trust the White House to re-litigate this same battle when the tax rates expire two years from now?"

Forehead-slap. This was a winning issue in 2008; it will be a winning issue in 2012. You punt two years so you can have a reelection issue. Forehead-slap.
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dimplesmile7
06:19 PM on 12/08/2010
I sent an email to Senator Bernie Sanders supporting his efforts in reject the Obama-Republican deal. I just received an email back from him along with a link. It is a petition for stopping the deal. Please sign and let him know that we support him:

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/activities/419?t=e1
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Horus45
Liberal Activist, anti-Fascist
12:28 PM on 12/08/2010
The President worried that someone might get harmed, but if no one ever gets harmed by Republican ideas then where is the incentive to vote against them?
11:20 AM on 12/08/2010
I am just sitting here being sanctimoni­ous and purist... clinging to my frustratio­ns about the lamented public option debate. Don't mind me...I am just a VOTER.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
11:00 AM on 12/08/2010
Here's the thing with Obama: If there was even an inkling that he fought tooth and nail to get a better deal than the one we ended up with, I think people would have a lot more respect for the man. But as it is with this issue, and other high-stakes plays in the last two years, he forfeits the game before it's even played. No wonder the GOP is walking all over him.
11:05 AM on 12/08/2010
well said! "perception is the reality"
12:00 PM on 12/08/2010
"forfeit the game before it's even played"

I think that is a much better metaphor than "punt on third down" some are using.
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bluepond
person
10:51 AM on 12/08/2010
Here's the problem:
If you go to a birthday party and the host eats all the cake and ice cream, and keeps all the party favors, and threatens to invite different people to his next party unless you give him everything he ever wanted, do you go out and buy him more presents?
12:05 PM on 12/08/2010
great post faved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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UnknownSolider
10:36 AM on 12/08/2010
Nancy and the House did what they needed to do, they passed a middle class tax cut......... the Senate voted it down.......... the problem is with the Democrats in the Senate, they are not backing up the White House or the House........
 
Now the Senate Democrats, must reject this White House deal, they must reject, just based on politics......... it will give the White House some cover......... the White House cut a deal, but its not a good deal for the Democratic Politcal party....... so REJECT it...... but the Senate Democrats are cowards
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Horus45
Liberal Activist, anti-Fascist
12:30 PM on 12/08/2010
Why are Blue Dog Senators who LOST the election STILL bucking the party?
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StillIRise
The past, present and future are one
04:05 PM on 12/08/2010
Were ALL of the Blue Dogs voted out???  I think not!!!  And since those who were, were replaced by Republicans ... the midterm elections did nothing to change the dynamics of our "cowardly" Democratic Senate.
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brt929
01:14 PM on 12/08/2010
Are you sure?  I can't believe the Rethugs even let it get to the floor of the Senate for a vote. 
PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
09:15 AM on 12/08/2010
It's not just that Obama caved on extending tax cuts for the rich;
but he also didn't even get tax cuts for the middle class permanent.

No wonder he gets no respect from the Chinese, Russians, Castro, Chavez, Iranians, or even allies like South Korea. The guys an inexperienced,amateur.

Community organizing is great for campaigning; but isn't executive experience.
Obama might be better in a second term; if there is one, he will at least then have some executive experience.

What we've got now is on-the-job training for a "cool" guy.
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brt929
01:21 PM on 12/08/2010
Wow, another tr011 starting a new urban legend.  Obama is actually quite respected in the international community, they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize.  So why not take your little myth back to red states?
PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
02:21 PM on 12/08/2010
"Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro criticized U.S. President Barack Obama for accepting the Nobel Peace Prize as he steps up the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan by deploying more troops,"

There's more, much more.
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StillIRise
The past, present and future are one
04:08 PM on 12/08/2010
You're absolutely right.  I just finished reading a letter from my brother who lives in Paris.  In quoting one sentence from that letter, he writes:
 
"President Obama is loved by everyboyd on this side of the ocean, because people see how truly courageous he is and what an effective leader he is."
 
He goes on to say, "We (Americans) finally have a real leader.  Unfortunately,, the people he's trying to lead don't get it."
 
I think my big brother is right!
09:07 AM on 12/08/2010
As long as Obama depends on his Wall Street boys to do the negotiations we all lose, not the rich of course. This is just awful and I am insulted by the President's remarks about liberals.
08:52 AM on 12/08/2010
One thing is good about this discussion on tax breaks,everybody now talking!!!! The Democrats lose the midterm election!!!! They didn't talk about this issue!!! Why didn't they take vote before the election? The President is elected to represent,the best interest for the country!!!! 2011, The Republicans have control of The House. The Senate The Democrats only have a #2 seat majority!!! If The Democrats don't like what going happening,then they can speak out in the minority.The Republicans now have to govern!!!!! Let the debate begin!!!! Democrats had the majority,never spoke out about these issues!!! They want The President to speak out!!! The Congress pass laws and The President sign or veto the bill!!! The people don't understand!!! Politicians only worry about keeping their jobs. They worry about the next election!!! We need term limits!!! Yes!!! You want to limit President Ohama !!!!! Many you should be term limit,because you didn't do anything about the situation until now after you have lost!!! This is real life,not sport!!!!
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gumbo1049
polytechnician
08:46 AM on 12/08/2010
I can't trust him anymore.
08:42 AM on 12/08/2010
"Dean, Ex-Obama Advisers Lament President's Plan"
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Voters lament voting for Obama.
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bthechangeyouseek
09:01 AM on 12/08/2010
And yet it's an irresponsible Congress who write and vote such policy.
08:20 AM on 12/08/2010
Your a kid and the school bully says "Give me your lunch money or I beat you up!" and you make a deal to only give him HALF your lunch money and walk away without a mark. You still got taken, robbed, jacked , etc. Then you go to the other kids and say that was shrewd negotiation.
The other kids won't exactly put you on a pedestal.

That is why Obama finds his base starting to lose respect for him. He is negotiating with bullies when all we want is for him to stand up for himself. You accept that you may get beat up and you slug the bully in the nose. Most of the time the bully was never really prepared to fight anyway and he will think twice about asking for your (our) lunch money.

Repubs were NEVER willing to let unemployment and the middle class suffer.....that was the trick.
Call the bullies bluff.....Slug em and see how they react. There is no double jeopardy on bills.....if they really did reject the original draft as is ....REDRAFT a new negotiated bill but make them vote NO first. It would have been political disaster for the Republican party. They would have whined and cried about how they were being politically forced to say yes to this bill but it would have passed originally, they wouldn't have had a choice......would have shown the tea party and their base whose side they were really on.
07:19 AM on 12/08/2010
Why do we continue to pretend that the wealthy will not get their much needed, job producing, tax break? The Republicans got themselves nominated thru the superfunding of campaigns by masked corporations, millionaires and billionaires. It was obvious that this President was going to cave. If he did not, the super rich will buy another president. He is now in WASHINGTON, it is where the rich find like minded misers to make them richer and campaign promises peel away over months and then it is time for reelection and new lies are created. .
When the Supreme Court allowed corporate wealth to decide our elections, we all lost and have little control over the next election. We are now giving hours of overtime which used to be compensated. We work two part time jobs, pick up children after dark at day care, maybe turn on the news at the end of the day. Chances are it will be FOX news.
In about 14 months more poison will come to the air waves, only it will be worse, masked wealth has demonstrated that it does not matter what lies fill the airways.
It is about GREED and the war against the exhausted middle class.
Let the greedy wear their proud titles, let the tax cuts expire, let unemployment run out…maybe if people get really mad…maybe…..there will be hope again.
Washington can not solve this…there is too much conflict of interest, in ALL houses.
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SayWhat1955
08:01 AM on 12/08/2010
AMEN!
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bluepond
person
10:55 AM on 12/08/2010
first fan.
07:14 AM on 12/08/2010
gvscmr Commented 9 hours ago
"Haven't seen it yet but I did post a list of the Presidents
Achievements provided to me by Dr. Robert Watson from Lynn
University so I'm not interested in the little B@B1E$ who feel
the President caved... The ones complaining are probably the
same ones who did not vote in November. http://goo.gl/j7Lq0"

Dear gvscmr - I voted both in 2010 and for Obama in 2008 when he pledged on the campaign trail that he would let the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. He just needs to do what he said and not act like he didn't make pledges for 'change the we can believe in'...
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Fasteddie1515
08:25 AM on 12/08/2010
NO....he needs to act like his country is on its way to being a third world country.....because it is. And he needs to govern accordingly based on whats best for the country not Red& Blue.