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Larry Summers: If Tax Deal Goes Down There's A 'Significant Risk' Of A Double Dip Recession

First Posted: 12/08/10 03:30 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

Larry Summers Tax Cut Deal Double Dip Recession

Senior White House officials significantly raised the stakes on congressional Democrats in their efforts to get a deal passed on the Bush tax cuts, warning on Wednesday that inaction would "significantly increase the risk" of a double dip recession.

It wasn't quite the metaphorical flare of mushroom cloud imagery, but outgoing senior economic adviser Larry Summers offered a fairly dire assessment of the stakes in the tax cut debate.

"If they [Democrats] don't pass this bill in the next couple weeks it will materially increase the risk that the economy would stall out and we would have a double dip," he told a gathering of reporters at an off camera briefing.

A double dip recession?

"What I said it would significantly increase the risk," Summers replied.

The message was hardly subtle. But it certainly was debatable. Summers himself, downplayed the significance of continuing the Bush tax cuts back in September -- though he was speaking, then, about the rates for the rich and the tax cut deal, at that point in time, did not include money for a 13-month extension of unemployment insurance or other tax incentives to help lower income workers.

Asked whether the country would find itself dipping towards the economic doldrums if Congress waited a month or two to get a tax cut package passed, Rob Shapiro, a former commerce official in the Clinton White House and a proponent of the current tax cut deal, offered more sober-minded analysis.

"The wait would not cause a double dip," he said. "A double dip would come out of the reality of a relatively contractionary fiscal policy... I do think the deal that they announced is stimulative. And it ought to boost growth by some increment... But the issue is, that the deal certainly is not enough to lift the economy to a different place. Will we see what happened with the large stimulus happen here, which is once the stimulus is over the economy returns to slow growth? That's the danger. And I keep on saying this, the single most important thing they can do to avert that is to stabilize housing prices."

Stabilizing the housing market, however, is not on the current congressional docket. And on Wednesday, the White House began a robust process of selling the deal to Democrats -- skeptical, as they are, about an extension of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and a generous revision of the estate tax.

There were few carrots to go along with the sticks. Asked, for instance, if the White House would be willing to revise the informal compromise to bring more Democratic lawmakers on board, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said any changes would be fine, so long as they didn't result in decreased support. Then he cautioned: "The physics and the blood and the sweat that might be involved in that, I'm not entirely sure I would put it quite as simply as that."

If anything, the pitch being offered from the administration to the rest of the party was: take the package now or risk being blamed for an economic downturn.

"I guess the question back for those who ask [why not fight for more] is where does this go, what is the end game and what are the consequences of playing it?" said senior adviser David Axelrod. "Do they have a sense of how this ends and how long will that take, because as Larry said there are real consequences to that. Just as the forecasts went up on the basis of this agreement they will go down if this agreement fails. That we know. We know that on January 1 people's taxes will go up, we know that at the end of this month 2 million people will lose their unemployment insurance. And so there are real consequences to that decision. We, I think we all stipulate, the president did, no one likes those provisions that they dislike but on the other side of the ledger are significant things that will help people and help the economy. And what we know for sure is that without any of it we are facing a really difficult situation."

Added Gibbs: "I think you would really have to ask somebody who says... lets have some eight week fight and on February the 15th come in and say, alright, now we are ready to make a compromise, who on earth, who on earth thinks that that is somehow going to be a fundamentally better agreement than the one we are looking at right now? No one I have ever talked to."

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Senior White House officials significantly raised the stakes on congressional Democrats in their efforts to get a deal passed on the Bush tax cuts, warning on Wednesday that inaction would "significan...
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Florence Baumgartner
02:21 AM on 12/13/2010
Dear Larry Summers,

why didn't you accept to be interviewed on the Inside Job, nothing to tell about the sub prime,
and the soon 9 millions without a home ? Did your support for deregulation, that you helped engineering and subsequently supported had nothing to do with these 9 millions people ?

Think of it, 9 millions of people without a home.
Still compassionate, ethical to support the tax deal ?
How do you want to sleep well at night for the rest of this life ?
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subinense
"We are star stuff" Carl Sagan
12:24 PM on 12/12/2010
I thought last election republicans took only the House, but it seems that they also took the White House ...
09:32 AM on 12/11/2010
Summers, along with Clinton, Rubin, and Greenspan, wrecked the economy by easy money, deregulation (a set up for the laxity of the Bush era), and endless policies that ship jobs oversees.
Here's what you need to know: There is no recovery except for their friends on Wall Street. Jobs will be created, but they won't be here. Next year we will be deeper in debt, have the same unemployed, foreclosures will be up, and Summers and his buddies will still be claiming any sensible policies will lead to the loss of more jobs.
Notice they always claim the next trillion of waste is "already baked into everyone's plans" and can't be withheld. What that means is, they have already taken positions in the options and futures markets that banked on the trillion being committed. That is why when the bills finally pass they have little effect on the market --- the front-runners have already soaked it up. Let's surprise them this time.
The other thing to watch for: Every time there is a compromise between the two parties, both sides get what they want and it costs double what any sensible policy would. For free we could cut them both off.
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waynesmyer
05:14 AM on 12/11/2010
But! as any Fool and Larry Summers know! Larry Summers sounds just like F-Yew Cheney spouting"Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid"
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waynesmyer
05:26 AM on 12/11/2010
F-Yew Cheney "Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid"
Larry Summers "Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid!
Wee Willie Clinton ! I'm afraid I will lose my million dollar tax cut!
08:04 PM on 12/10/2010
Heck-of-a-job. Larry!
08:03 PM on 12/10/2010
This is hilarious. The Double Dip is going to happen, regardless of what Congress does.
Obama, and corporate Dems think thay have just found a way to pin their double dip on congressional liberals. Don't think the issue won't go unnoticed by Republicans during the next election.
It's going to be open season on liberals, come 2012.
Summers was the one who grossly underestimated the required size of the 2009 stimulus.
If anyone is responsible for the upcomming double-dip, it's him.
07:01 PM on 12/10/2010
Larry:

You lie.

Oh, and SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
05:59 AM on 12/10/2010
Summers isn't a good forecaster, but ECRI is (all they do is study recessions). They say no double-dip (even if nothing gets passed), that the economy is already about to revive, and that the White House should take a page from FDR and stop fear-mongering.

http://www.businesscycle.com/news/press/2041/
07:39 PM on 12/09/2010
I don't hear Rush very often, but today he pointed out that on Tuesday during Obama's news conference, Obama stated that the "stimulus" package made it so we don't have to worry about a double-dip recession. Then the very next day, Larry Summers was out fearmongering about the inevitability of a double-dip recession if this unholy deal between Obama and the Repubs doesn't get passed.
06:15 PM on 12/09/2010
Another fat pig billionaire with flappy jowls holding a gun against the economy's head.

The terrorists aren't in Afghanistan. Theyre right here!
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jayszip
In honor bound
05:23 PM on 12/09/2010
From the guy who was Head of the Treasury under George Bush. (In part) allowed the economy to go to S@it to begin with, and now uses fear to suggest that we are going back to resession. I thought we were done with the "reaf factor", after we got rid of Bush and Cheney using fear pass the Patriot Act, and squash the Constitution!
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05:14 PM on 12/09/2010
Summers has made a terroristic threat, and should be arrested by federal marshalls
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04:53 PM on 12/09/2010
There is no risk of a double dip recession, ask anyone on the they street and they'll tell you it's a depression despite Uncle Joe's declaration of recovery summer.
04:32 PM on 12/09/2010
For at least 40 million Americans, including most recent college graduates, the nation never came out of the recession and for tens of millions of more, that "double-dip" is coming with the next pink slip or uninsured illness.

Summers is, as always, a propagandist for the plutocrats.
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licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:11 PM on 12/09/2010
There will not be any Middle Class in the USA without Jobs.

The US government created "Free Trade" laws and other anti-business laws and "Environmental Laws" that caused US businesses to move their US factories overseas and lay off all of the US employees in order to reduce their product prices to meet US consumer demands (and increase their profits).

Why blame the businesses? If a business's competitors take advantage of cheaper foreign labor and environmental costs, then the competitor will have less expensive products, and the business with the more expensive products made with US citizen labor in the USA will go bankrupt because the US consumer will not buy the more expensive US made product.

Both major political parties and their political contributors, mostly the various foreign manufacturer paid lobbyists, directed (bribed) our lawmakers to remove import tariffs that protected the jobs of US citizens working in US industries.

This action then created "Free Trade" which is the cause of most of the US factory closings and job losses to overseas locations.

The US jobs are not going to be recreated without "Extremely High Import Tariffs" that are high enough to prevent imported products.

What do you think that the future of the US worker will be? I do not know where to buy any US made products anywhere any more.

These jobs are gone forever and they will never return until US labor and environmental manufacturing costs meet or be less than foreign location manufacturing costs.