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AARP Signs Off On Obama Tax Cut Provision

First Posted: 12/10/10 07:56 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

Aarp Obama Tax Cut Deal

WASHINGTON -- The country's foremost senior-issues advocacy organization on Friday night lent its support to a critical provision of the president's tax cut deal with Republicans.

In what could prove to be a consequential assessment of "the framework," AARP's Executive Vice President John Rother says that both he and his organization have determined that a two percentage point reduction in the payroll tax rate (from which Social Security gets its revenue) would not endanger the solvency of their community's cherished program.

Critics of the tax cut deal have raised concerns that the even though the holiday is structured to be in place for just one year, lawmakers would feel compelled to extend the policy well beyond that, in the process endangering Social Security's finances.

Mother Jones called the provision a "Trojan Horse for Republicans."

"After all, won't they just come back a year from now and start screaming that if the cut is allowed to expire it's a tax increase?" wrote Kevin Drum.

The Obama administration has insisted that during that one-year holiday, Social Security revenue would be, essentially, firewalled. A fact sheet the White House has sent to the Hill (a sign, perhaps, that the president's team is worried about a backlash against this specific proposal) declares that: "The law specifies that Social Security will receive every dollar it would have gotten even without the payroll tax cut... the Social Security Trust Fund will be paid back for every dollar lost because of the payroll tax cut."

In speaking to The Huffington Post, Rother said that he had faith in the administration's calculus.

"It is obvious that the proposal has no financial impact on Social Security because the trust fund is made whole," he said. "So there is no dollar or cents impact but secondly some people may be worried that once you cut the payroll tax it won't go back up. I think that is a misplaced concern because if there is one program the public wants funded it is Social Security... We have all kinds of public opinion data that shows people would rather pay taxes for Social Security than see benefits get cut."

The notion that public opinion polls would compel Congress to allow a tax break to expire may seem -- as evidenced by the larger debate over the expiring Bush tax cuts -- a bit far-fetched. And at one point Rother seemed to acknowledge that there could be a revenue-juggling problem if lawmakers kept extending the payroll tax holiday down the road. But even then he was rather nonplussed.

"Social Security is, of course, a stronger system with a dedicated source of financing but in theory you could take money from anywhere to keep financing going," he said.
"Other countries do that. But we have a long tradition in this country of keeping Social Security self-financed.

"Everyone involved is quite clear that this is a temporary payroll tax holiday and given the deficit and the politics I have no doubt that that will be true. That in other words we will go back to the traditional way of contributing to Social Security once this period is finished."

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01:07 PM on 12/30/2010
Aarp sells stocks and mutual funds. Case closed.

They also liked the unfunded Prescription Drug Plan.
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07:18 PM on 12/30/2010
Also they sell medical insurance, and try to screen out Massachusetts residents because we don't allow prior condition waivers. Though actually, last I looked, Massachusetts did allow insurance companies not to cover a prior for six months after you sign up to lessen gaming of the system. That was before they made insurance mandatory.
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TruEngineHearing
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12:42 PM on 12/30/2010
Sure, he can let the Payroll Tax rise back to its former level next year, but that could doom his re-election chances - unless he also offsets the difference by lowering taxes for those workers affected. Obama may think he's playing chess, but I think it's 2 wolves and a rabbit discussing what to have for lunch.
01:25 PM on 12/30/2010
He could have given them a federal income tax break equivelent to 2% of their Social Security.
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Songbird53
03:06 PM on 12/13/2010
"...Social Security gets its revenue) would not endanger the solvency of their community's cherished program. "

And if it does, no doubt AARP will have a supplemental insurance program to sell the latest set of retirees. I would be surprised if they did not have a product already in development.
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Tom Payned
Card carrying member of ACLU
02:25 PM on 12/13/2010
The HE double hockey sticks to AARP.

We need to get on the phone Today and contact our senators and house members.

I'm telling them the following with a quote from

Senator Ted Kennedy in 1994:

"If the Democrats run for cover, if we become pale carbon copies of the opposition , we will lose--and deserve to lose. The last thing this country needs is two Republican parties."

Ted was right, in 1994 we lost the house and senate.

In 2010 we took a drubbing, it will be worse in 2012

Paris Hilton, and the Kardasions are going to use their fortunes to create jobs. Publicists to keep their names in the papers, plastic surgeons to keep their faces in the papers, lawyers to keep their faces off of more mug shots.

Now that's what I call job creation.
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kevin j williams
02:19 PM on 12/13/2010
blah blah blah of course there for this
12:53 PM on 12/13/2010
AARP is too myopic by half.

We're being set up.

Where can I buy an option on likelihood the Republican congress in the next 2 years will pass a bill to make that 2% reduction permanent? I would take all my money and buy that option because it will pay off.
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
12:00 PM on 12/13/2010
The AARP ought to know better; they've been had before. There is very little about this "compromise" tax bill that is temporary, only the unemployment benefits...13 months only. The tax cuts for the wealthy will be given again in 2012, probably in a permanent form and the Social Security payroll tax decrease will probably go on and on, perhaps even ultimately bankrupting Social Security in the future. It will certainly cause the Repugs to point out that this benefit is going broke: thus, end it. This bill is much more than what Obama tells us. The GOP has found its hero in Obama and our compassionate society will never again be seen.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:01 AM on 12/13/2010
AARP is a fraud. For years it's been little more than a front for United Healthcare. They are corporatists through and through and wander around pretending to help seniors. Balderdash.
stumanchu35
Tolerance is a one way street.
09:43 AM on 12/13/2010
Yeah, their called tax payers.
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09:05 AM on 12/13/2010
If there really were such as thing as a "TEMPORARY tax cut"..... whether it be for "millionaires", "billionaires", or a "payroll tax cut",
If there really were such a thing..........

We wouldn't be having this debate.
08:37 AM on 12/13/2010
"After all, won't they just come back a year from now and start screaming that if the cut is allowed to expire it's a tax increase?" wrote Kevin Drum.

This is exactly what will happen. And the 2% is really 4% with the employers matching funds.

Talk about giving away the store by our brave President.
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Skunkman
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07:47 AM on 12/13/2010
It appears that the far left has a history of going after centrist democrats. He is obviously doing the best he can. Congress, especially the Senate, is just too conservative to get alot of those progressive policies passed and with absolute zero republican support.

Mike
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:04 AM on 12/13/2010
He is obviously not doing the best he can. Sheesh, he's to the right of Nixon. There is something called a veto pen you know. I get that he can't push forward a bunch of progressive policies, but that doesn't mean he needs to go out and propose ridiculous ongoing tax cuts for billionaires and the beginning of defunding social security.
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Skunkman
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11:59 AM on 12/13/2010
Hi NWBrunette: Well it looks like we disagree. It doesn't happen often but
once in a while it's a good thing. I just feel bad for the unemployed & the
tax cut for the middle class. As for the super rich they have so much money
that their tax cut means nothing.

Well have a nice holiday season.


Mike:
02:12 AM on 12/13/2010
Just like Bush for the grass root Republicans, Obama became an embarrassment for the grass root Democrats. His every bill is written by the very crooks who are supposed to be crushed by it with a few feel-good provisions. But it is not really his fault, the system is infested and undermined by the people we never see or vote for.
12:50 AM on 12/13/2010
So now they're saying that Social Security will somehow magically be reimbursed for the revenue that will be lost. Where exactly are they shifting money from to cover it? Is it from China, yet again?
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marc bennett
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09:35 PM on 12/12/2010
Is that why Orange-glo was crying on 60 minutes?
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Skunkman
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07:50 AM on 12/13/2010
Good morning marc bennett: I needed a good laugh & you gave it to me. Thanks marc. LOL

Fanned & faved

Mike
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marc bennett
Free Speech doesn't mean "FACT FREE"
06:03 PM on 12/13/2010
LOL... you got it....1172