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GOPers See 'Great Opportunity' For Afghanistan War Skeptic In 2012


First Posted: 12/10/10 12:41 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- In what promises to be a crowded field of Republican presidential candidates, there is a growing sense that a 2012 contender could distinguish himself or herself by giving voice to the skepticism many in the party feel about the Afghanistan war. It may not in the end be a recipe for victory -- more a gateway to a somewhat-isolationist segment of the base that prizes "truth-telling" on foreign policy matters. But if the 2008 presidential race was any indication, there's a brewing anti-Afghanistan war sentiment within the conservative movement that a candidate could capitalize on.

"There's a great opportunity for a Republican to distinguish themselves by taking a strong position on bringing the troops home from Afghanistan," said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), a strong critic of the war who has advocated -- and voted for -- redeployment. "It's a very conservative position. It will unite the right and the left, and it would certainly play well to independents."

Chaffetz isn't alone in his party, but he is in the minority -- at least of those who are willing to speak up. In July, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele suggested that the United States should reduce its role in the war. He learned the price of breaking with party orthodoxy and retracted his comments after being criticized by the members of the party who firmly back the U.S. effort in Afghanistan.

George Will, someone whose conservative bona fides are a bit more well-regarded than Steele's, gave voice to this silent minority in September, when he wrote a column titled, "Time for the U.S. to Get Out of Afghanistan." Other Republicans who have become skeptical of the war effort include Ann Coulter, Joe Scarborough, Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.) and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.).

In the 2008 presidential race, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) became a bit of a phenomenon, capturing more financial support and excitement than anyone expected. He was known for his libertarian streak, criticism of the Federal Reserve, and harsh criticism of the war in Afghanistan. In fact, he goes even further than many Democrats and is a non-interventionist who also opposed the Iraq invasion.

But Republican pollster David Winston cautioned that money and visibility don't necessarily translate into votes, and right now, the party still largely supports the war.

"I think generally, within the party on the Republican side, there's a sense that if we're going to succeed in the war on terror, one of the specific items we have to have success on is Afghanistan," said Winston. "So the two are intertwined."

So far, the field of 2012 GOP candidates seems to be hewing to the traditional party line on the war. A few possible contenders who are currently governors and therefore don't deal as much with national security -- people like Rick Perry in Texas and Bobby Jindal in Louisiana -- have less of a clear position on the issue.

Chaffetz told The Huffington Post in an interview on Wednesday that he hasn't yet heard of any possible candidates in the GOP agreeing with him on Afghanistan but insisted that moving away from standard talking points could be a winning issue.

"No one wants to take a vote to appear they're soft on the war on terror, but I beg to differ with some of the perceptions," said Chaffetz. "Bringing our troops home is a winning position. I think it's where America is at on this. We're still going to have a fight a global war on terror, but 100,000 troops in Afghanistan is not necessarily going to solve our problems."

That principled conservative stand has support among constitutionalists. Howard Phillips is founder of the Constitution Party and served in the Reagan administration. He is now chairman of The Conservative Caucus, a public policy advocacy group in Virginia, and strongly supports withdrawing from Afghanistan. He stressed that his group is not anti-war but against the operations in Afghanistan and believes the money being spent there should instead be used toward rebuilding the Navy and the Air Force.

"We had a meeting in Forth Worth, Tex. a few weeks ago and unanimously passed a resolution that the United States should immediately get out of Afghanistan," said Phillips, saying that more than 100 people from all over the country were in attendance. "There's no support among constitutional constitutional conservatives."

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10:13 AM on 12/29/2010
So I guess if President Obama surprises everyone and does a sizable drawdown as scheduled these people clamoring for a quick withrrawl will change their position.
09:19 AM on 01/21/2011
Those who have no principles will shift their position. But those who have been against the war years before the war even started, and those republicans who spoke out against the war while Bush was still in office are the principled ones who will continue on with their same message.

Troop draw downs, shifting troops back and forth between countries, tactical movements with 5,000 more in, then 3,000 back out are totally irrelevant. We need to be changing our foreign policy - it's as black and white as should we endorse interventionism or non-interventionism? Non-interventionism is the answer, because it's the policy we were intended to have and it's the policy authorized by the law of the land, the Constitution.
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01:45 AM on 12/16/2010
Howard Phillips is founder of the Constitution Party and served in the Reagan administration. He is now chairman of The Conservative Caucus, a public policy advocacy group in Virginia, and strongly supports withdrawing from Afghanistan. He stressed that his group is not anti-war but against the operations in Afghanistan and believes the money being spent there should instead be used toward rebuilding the Navy and the Air Force.

well, I am SO relieved that this joker isn't against war. Wonder if he or his children served?
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MuchMadness
12:21 AM on 12/13/2010
I hope that several candidates who advocate a quick withdrawal from Afghanistan and a final withdrawal from Iraq will run for the presidency in 2012.

The only way to "win" in either of those places would be to greatly increase the number of occupying troops, which would require a draft, and to become outright emperors (because the occupied population will never accept the presence of foreign troops as legitimate), and it would not be morally right for us to do that, so we have to withdraw.
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CarlIII
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11:10 PM on 12/12/2010
The US Military is almost entirely made up of republicans. At least the officer corps is. War with Iran is on the table with most conservatives. If the very conservative wing of the GOP gets control and nominates it's female media star. They are mostly hawks and some are very anti Iran. Sarah Palin is a hard hawk and very anti moslem. The war in Afganistan will continue. I'm ready to cut bate bring the Army home and concentrate SEAL and CIA hits on Al Queda bases in Pakistan.
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Cea80
κόπρος γίγνεται.
11:56 AM on 12/11/2010
There is absolutely no way in the world Republicans will nominate an anti war candidate in 2012. If anything, I guarantee they nominate the candidate who's most in favor of extended the war on (t)error and starting one with Iran.
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DARK STAR
One small step for Man...
11:22 AM on 12/11/2010
In other words, "what can the GOP lie about and get away with?"

Obama used it, and he got elected, why not the GOP too?
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GayGrandpa
01:31 PM on 12/11/2010
Obama Campaign Promise - October 27, 2007 "YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9ywEFRQkQ
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GayGrandpa
11:20 AM on 12/11/2010
I am for bringing them home...finding a candidate on either side who I can trust, that is the bigger problem!
07:49 AM on 12/11/2010
I think any candidate from any political party or philosophy that takes a position to end the war would do well. They tell us it is in our best national interests security and otherwise to be fighting over there, be we as a nation cannot afford either financially, or personally these kinds of wars, or military endeavors in regions where the objectives, or goals are either unattainable, or so difficult to reach that it creates the kind of protracted situation we have in Afghanistan right now. We have to realize that we can no longer afford to bring our military into regions like Afghanistan unless we are completely willing, and have the national stomach to do everything to takes to eliminate not just there ability to fight us, but there will to fight us. One would think Vietnam would have taught us something, but we appear to be falling into the same kind of trap.
01:43 AM on 12/11/2010
Republicans these days, the real ones with some money, like war, it gives them a chance to stand on the sidelines and cheer like that is even more patriotic than fighting in the war. See big Dick Cheney.
01:05 AM on 12/11/2010
Rep. Chaffetz gives me the heebie jeevies. Reminds me of Alfred E. Numan but not in a good way
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One more Thing
12:46 AM on 12/11/2010
We will have been run out of Afghanistan by 2012.
05:37 AM on 12/11/2010
That's right, we could be down to 50,000 or so. Worked in Iraq.
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
10:54 PM on 12/10/2010
You gotta hand it to the R's man... no one and I do mean no one can get as much mileage out of both sides of the same fence as them.

They push the country into 2 unnecessary wars, besmirch and destroy anyone who dares to say that this might be a bad idea, thump their chest and ride this issue to victory in '04 now are going to use opposition to this same war as the key back to the White House.

And they said Kerry was a flip-flopper.... watching the R's on policy positions is like watching a ping pong match...
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Debbie McPherson
09:50 PM on 12/10/2010
That is very odd - what about the military idustrial complex that bribes the GOP to continue these wars for profit?
 
Does he imagine they will just go away? Come on, Cheney will roll over in his grave (you see I am optimistic about good things happening) if the GOP wasn't 100% behind at least two wars...
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MyDawg1967
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09:32 PM on 12/10/2010
Hell they were skeptical of Afghanistan a month after 9/11 then they charged straight into Iraq!
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gypsysailor
Things that might have been never were.
09:04 PM on 12/10/2010
If republicans want to impress me they should vote to bring back the draft.
01:39 AM on 12/11/2010
They have their version of a draft right now....a bad economy.
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lost souls rembrd
01:48 AM on 12/16/2010
blunt, short and sweet rhubardpi

exactly my thoughts