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Parents Blamed Most Often For Failing Education System, Poll Finds

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First Posted: 12/13/10 12:21 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

SEATTLE (AP) -- Blaming teachers for low test scores, poor graduation rates and the other ills of American schools has been popular lately, but a new survey wags a finger closer to home.

An Associated Press-Stanford University Poll on education found that 68 percent of adults believe parents deserve heavy blame for what's wrong with the U.S. education system - more than teachers, school administrators, the government or teachers unions.

Only 35 percent of those surveyed agreed that teachers deserve a great deal or a lot of the blame. Moms were more likely than dads - 72 percent versus 61 percent - to say parents are at fault. Conservatives were more likely than moderates or liberals to blame parents.

Those who said parents are to blame were more likely to cite a lack of student discipline and low expectations for students as serious problems in schools. They were also more likely to see fighting and low test scores as big problems.

"Nobody is too busy to raise a child for a successful future," said Wilfred Luise Vincent, 65, of Coppell, Texas. Vincent worked early or late shifts for Delta Airlines during most of his career so his two daughters would have a parent at home after school.

Now he's retired and home after school to help guide his granddaughter while his daughter works.

The problems children and their parents deal with inside and outside of school every day are growing, said Julie Woestehoff, executive director of Parents United for Responsible Education, a Chicago advocacy group.

Children are tired, they're hungry and they need someone to help with their homework. Some kids face violence at home or in their neighborhood. Some parents are trying so hard to keep a roof over their family that they can't help with school.

More than half of those polled said student discipline and fighting, violence and gangs were extremely or very serious problems in schools. Nearly as many expressed concern about getting and keeping good teachers.

Most said education in their local public schools is excellent or good, but 67 percent also believe the U.S. is falling behind the rest of the world when it comes to education.

But a majority of parents see improvement in the system since they were in school: 55 percent believe their children are getting a better education than they did, and three-quarters rate the quality of education at their child's school as excellent or good. Most say their child's school is doing a good job preparing students for college, the work force and life as an adult.

A variety of research in past years backs up the poll respondents' sense that parenting plays key roles in school performance.

One in 10 kindergarten and first-grade students misses a month of school every year, which can put them behind their classmates for years, according to Attendance Counts, an advocacy group. By ninth grade, missing 20 percent of school is a better predictor of a student dropping out than test scores are, said Attendance Counts director Hedy Chang. In the poll, 41 percent said students not spending enough time in school is a serious problem.

Exposing kids under 2 to too much television can cause them to develop language skills later, researchers at the University of Washington have found.

Hungry students do worse on standardized tests and are absent more often, according several studies that have connected poor nutrition with students who have trouble concentrating.

Educating parents about how the school system works and welcoming them to get involved may also help their children, according to Joyce L. Epstein, research professor of sociology at Johns Hopkins University, who focuses on school, family and community partnerships.

"Without programs to educate parents, everyone is working in some stage of ignorance." Epstein said.

Some things just can't be fixed by schools or even the community, says Mike Principe, 62, of Melrose Park, a suburb of Chicago, Ill.

In addition to worrying about school violence, a lack of student discipline, low expectations for achievement, difficulty attracting good teachers and unimpressive student test scores, Principe is concerned about divorce, the economy, single parents and the national debt.

"These are tough times we're living in," Principe said. "What's our world going to be like when our 2-year-old is an adult?"

The AP-Stanford Poll on Education was conducted Sept. 23-30 by Abt SRBI, Inc. It involved interviews on landline and cellular telephones with 1,001 adults nationwide and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.9 percentage points.

Stanford's participation in this project was made possible by a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

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Online:

AP polls: http://surveys.ap.org

Attendance Counts: http://www.attendancecounts.org/

Parents United for Responsible Education: http://www.pureparents.org/

Johns Hopkins University program on school partnerships: http://partnershipschools.org

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SEATTLE (AP) -- Blaming teachers for low test scores, poor graduation rates and the other ills of American schools has been popular lately, but a new survey wags a finger closer to home. An Associate...
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02:07 PM on 01/30/2011
How parents fail:

- Two weeks into the semester, I sent letters home to parents of every student who had not been submitting homework. One emailed me back saying that her daughter had not submitted the homework because the web address for the assignments was "misspelled on the board" in my classroom. In point of fact, it wasn't. In addition, there were two distinct URL's for the homework blog, plus a link on my main website and the school's website; no one else had complained of a misspelling; the student had never reported such to me; and, again, this was two weeks into the semester.

- I had a parent come to parent-teacher conferences, livid that her daughter had failed my class. The student had signed in after the semester started, and the mother claimed that she "had no idea" that she was supposed to do the everyday notebook writing, in class, that she had failed the marking period for not doing. When I showed the mother my Class Handbook and website, and explained how the class operated, including instruction and announcements regarding notebooks, and mentioned the two letters I had sent home about the missing notebook (i.e., illustrating that there was no reason for the student to -not- know the requirement), she complained about my attitude. Throughout the conversation, she kept repeating, "This is -my- -daughter- we're talking about."
01:46 PM on 01/30/2011
How parents fail:

- I had a student who did very little work, was 15 to 20 minutes late or absent from class just about every day, and was just generally one of the most obnoxious, peevish, nasty teenagers I ever encountered (which, in my experience, is saying something). When the parent received correspondence from me about the child's attendance, behavior and lack of scholarship, I got an angry phone call saying, "My daughter doesn't -miss- class," demanding proof of her absences, objecting to the fact that I required students to do their work at the time it was assigned, the fact that I wrote answers and explanations for the homework questions on the blog instead of on each individual student's paper, that they needed to read those explanations on their own (which, when I was in school, was called "studying"), and that I had not given her child the direct personal attention that she deserves. She even complained, bizarrely, that I had begun accepting late homework on a limited basis where I had originally said I wouldn't. She accused me of being disorganized, sloppy and careless with student work, when the truth and my reputation in the school was the precise opposite.

- I had a parent insist that her child could not fail the first marking period, because he had been absent the entire time.

- I had a parent insist that her child could not fail my class, because she was incapable of understanding the literature.
01:29 PM on 01/30/2011
How parents fail:

- I had a parent dispute that her daughter had cut school on the day of an exam. I showed her four separate contempora­neous documents that establishe­d the child's absence. She responded, "If my daughter says she was here, then she was here."

- I had a student miss an exam one day; when she asked for a makeup the following week, she said that she had "overslept." I therefore did not give her a make-up, since her absence was the result of her own negligence. Two days later, the parent emailed me to say that the student couldn't get to school on time on the exam day because he had "car trouble." When I told the parent that this was not the same reason the student had given me, without specifying, he told me she had overslept because of medication she was taking.

- I had a parent call and angrily berate me for giving her daughter a 65 in my 9th-grade English class. The child slept in class every day and was writing on a 5th-grade level. The mother insisted that the child was a brilliant writer and had been a straight-A honor roll student at her most excellent middle school. Her middle school grades, in reality, were 55's and 65's across the board.

- I had a student who persistently got the wrong answer on logic-based homework questions. The parent asked me, "Isn't logic just a matter of opinion?"
01:12 PM on 01/30/2011
Put simply, there are four stakeholders in education: parents, students, teachers, and administrators. All four fail to one degree or another, mainly because their roles in education today are all out of whack from where they should be.

To the extent that parents fail, they do so by instilling in their kids the idea that they are entitled to high grades and obsequious praise; that the purpose of schooling is to be congratulated for what they already know and can already do, not to learn new things and acquire new skills. Parents fail because they do not respect teachers' judgment or expertise; they do not consider teachers to be experts either in their subject-area fields nor in pedagogy and assessment, nor do they believe that teachers are objective and neutral when it comes to grading. Parents decide for themselves what grades their children should get, and substitute their own judgment for that of the teacher. Therefore the students know that no matter what their ability or effort, they will get the grades their parents demand, not the grades they actually earn. Thus they have no incentive to work, study, learn or improve.

I had a parent once dispute that her daughter had cut school on the day of an exam. I showed her four separate contemporaneous documents that established the child's absence. She responded, "If my daughter says she was here, then she was here." This is how parents fail.
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GreenKate
03:52 AM on 01/09/2011
Kids attend school 36 weeks per year, minus snow days, teacher workshops and whatever they can ditch. Many are home by 2:15, a good 4 hours before their parents roll in from work. Lots of free time to play video games, smoke weed, get pregnant.

Legend has it this schedule was originally designed so children would have time to help work the farm. In other words... a schedule that met the needs of parents too. Today you probably do not farm, yet protest having to oversee 4 hours of homework each night and you'll be accused of being a bad parent and asking the teacher to raise your kids.

Teachers complain that the average high school student spends only a couple of hours at home per week doing school work. Obviously this system is not working and does not meet the needs of 21st century families. Extend the school day to 9 hours and eliminate homework entirely. Give kids the same schedule their parents have: 8 hours work, an hour for lunch. Let families have family time again and make students and teachers responsible for what goes on at school.
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JWW33
If we cannot dig ourselves out, we must go deeper
05:56 PM on 12/30/2010
Learning should not stop after the last school bell has rung. Parents have a major role and responsibility when it comes to fostering a learning environment for their kids at home. Repetition and hard work are the best ways to succeed at anything, so there are few excuses for children who have normal learning abilities to not succeed in the classroom when their parents work with them at home. Conversely, children whose parents don't work with them after school will be at a disadvantage.
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sweatermoose
"Spitwads are not free speech."
01:45 PM on 12/28/2010
I worked with elementary school children for ten years. Some kids I knew and worked with every day for five years of their education, and I would say the conventional wisdom on the subject is pretty much correct. I have worked in wealthy areas and more middle class ones, and I have worked with several families who were headed by single moms and received government assistance. The difference was in the standards for behavior set by the parents, and the parents' willingness on every level not to take the easy way out. Not to make excuses for their children's inappropriate behavior, not to pack pre-packaged, unwholesome lunches filled with HFCS and chemicals, not to insist that others help their kids with their homework instead of supervising it themselves. And while I know poverty plays a role, for sure, I saw plenty of poor single moms who made their kids tow the line, and plenty of rich ones who were too preoccupied with their clothes to pay attention to their kids. Guess which ones were better off?
11:04 AM on 12/20/2010
I think yes. from a senior currently attending a public school that is failing in Louisville, KY>parents send their "untrained" kids everyday to get babysat. please start sending your kids to school to LEARN! and trained too!
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KaAp
09:30 AM on 12/18/2010
The blame game is like a hot potato of the usual suspects (I mean look below to the comment about illegal immigrants) passed around and passed around in some kind of perverse blame game. The poll that creates a conjecture: our failing education system ... places blames on parents (and that usually means: single mothers, poor people, people who speak languages other than English as their first language, working parent(s), gay and lesbian parents and on and on) -- the poll immediately assumes the system is failing ... rather than saying the system is being de-funded by privatizers or that the disparities between the rich and poor have grown so much that homelessness and hunger ought to be real topics for discussion.
It is just so much easier to blame parents, teachers, schools etc etc etc ... why not clear the log in front of your eyes and understand that what is happening to schools is part of the new "gilded age." Capitalists acting as predators on our schools, on our progeny, on their ability to have any form of education above and beyond rote skills. Feeding off our children like vampires, sucking the money out of schools while pretending they are benevolent reformers or philanthropists.
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SonyaInTx
Money doesn't buy class.....
02:18 AM on 12/17/2010
A favorite teazcher of mine said about parent-teacher night conference, "I don't worry about the children of the parents that are here.....the children who need parent-teacher night are the parents that are not here...."

Active parental involvement is key to a successful child.....
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anesthesia84
12:18 AM on 12/17/2010
totally agree. ask any economist why people are unemployed they say a large part of it is the lack of workers who have skills companies need...like advanced math, life sciences, etc. my parents didn't give me a choice...i had to go to med school, nothing else. and today i am living without complaint. science was hard, nothing scares me more than organic chemistry. but it made me someone with a marketable and needed skill. how many of my friends did what i did? one...he's a phd from harvard in chem engineering. everyone else is unemployed, a lawyer or paper pusher. science is the future and america needs to wake up and embrace it starting in the home.
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SonyaInTx
Money doesn't buy class.....
12:29 AM on 12/17/2010
Fanned.

Science is not easy, but nothing worth doing is.
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LucreziaBorgia
07:06 PM on 12/16/2010
Parents are the big 800 lb gorilla in the room! Believe me.
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KJLSanDiego
02:53 PM on 12/16/2010
Both of my parents grew up dirt poor in unsupportive families.
I'm glad my mom was smart, and knew to wait and have kids when her and my dad had the money and time to take care of my younger brother and I. Because of her, I will absolutely not get married and have kids until I have all the resources to support my family.
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Lawson Meadows
Plant in your kids, the seeds of greatness!
11:37 PM on 12/17/2010
KJLSanDiego,

You mom was indeed wise... taking poverty from the equation broke the cycle. Good for her, because poverty changes everything in that it invokes ancient limitations... like climbing a ladder with one hand, it's not impossible, but darn difficult.

The good news, you grandchildren will likely benefit from it too.

Lawson Meadows
02:01 PM on 12/16/2010
of course who else.. You can blame the politicians who made the law and policies.Can't you?
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Michael Gerety
11:10 AM on 12/16/2010
"Parents blamed most often for Failing Education System, Poll Finds"

"But a majority of parents see improvement in the system since they were in school: 55 percent believe their children are getting a better education than they did, and three-quarters rate the quality of education at their child's school as excellent or good."

Something seems a bit weird here. Someone makes up a problem then watch people fight over it. Maybe there is a problem after all. Yes, the US does not win all the math competitions, so the only decent system is the one that wins the world series? Get real guys, stop fighting ghosts, other countries have really smart kids too and we will not come in first all the time (skiing, gymnastics, chess ...) It does NOT mean our system is bad. Heck, even the data presented in the above poll contradicts the headline!

The adults on the educational pages can't manage their thoughts. Who do you guys want to blame for that? Your fifth grade teacher? Your parents? At a certain age it is OUR responsibility to learn and to teach our children. So do it! Those of you that can, do an analysis of these comments and you will see what I mean. Sorry, but someone has to say it. The teachers are not the "problem," you are.

Facts are different than opinion and emotion is not thought; if you believe everything you think, you are not thinking.