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Tax Cut Deal Handling Angers House Democrats

12/14/10 12:34 PM ET   AP

Tax Cut Deal House Democrats

WASHINGTON — The struggle over tax cuts is seriously straining President Barack Obama's relationship with House Democrats, who have backed him on key issues even when it cost them politically.

Expressing hurt and bewilderment, Democratic lawmakers say Obama ignored them at crucial negotiating moments, misled them about his intentions and made needless concessions to Republicans.

The president has responded that he acted honorably and drove the best bargain he could. But even his explanations offended some longtime allies. Aides to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi grumbled about a Dec. 7 news conference in which Obama claimed that some liberals would feel "sanctimonious about how pure our intentions are and how tough we are" by refusing to compromise, even if an impasse hurt the working class.

"Hardly anybody in the Democratic caucus here feels that the president tried hard enough to deliver on his campaign promises," said Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida, one of dozens of House Democrats defeated in last month's elections. Obama had House Democratic leaders "go through what turned out to be Potemkin meetings with his staff, when the real negotiations were being done elsewhere," he said.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat who has strongly supported Obama and won re-election last month, told MSNBC the chief House representative "wasn't even in the room, and we did feel left out" during the key tax-cut negotiations.

Hurt feelings can mend over time, of course, and it's not clear how much political damage Obama will suffer because of disenchantment among House members. His allies note that House Democrats will be in the minority in the new Congress, and it's essential for the president to negotiate with the newly ascendant Republicans to get things done.

Still, the estrangement is notable because House Democrats have been Obama's most dependable allies in his first two years in office. They passed a politically risky energy bill to cap greenhouse gasses, only to see the Senate ignore it. When the Senate refused to make further changes to this year's hard-fought health care overhaul bill, House Democrats swallowed their anger and pride, accepting big concessions to keep it alive.

Key liberal groups have attacked the tax plan, which would extend Bush-era tax cuts for two years for all Americans, poor and rich alike. It also would extend unemployment benefits and trim Social Security taxes for a year, steps most Democrats support. But the deal would tax large, multimillion-dollar inheritances at a rate lower than many had expected, and that infuriates many liberals.

Some of Obama's longtime allies have lashed out. Illinois Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. – who publicly chastised his famous father for criticizing Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign – said of the tax deal, "If we recklessly cut taxes for the wealthiest 2 percent, then Obamanomics will look an awful lot like Reaganomics."

The Congressional Black Caucus said its members "are overwhelmingly opposed to the president's compromise with Republicans."

Obama says GOP lawmakers held middle-class Americans hostage by vowing to tie up Congress – and thereby allowing everyone's income tax rates to rise on Jan. 1 – unless he met their demands to extend tax cuts for the wealthy for another two years.

"I know there are some who would have preferred a protracted political fight, even if it had meant higher taxes for all Americans," the president said last week. "I'm not here to play games with the American people or the health of our economy," he added. "My job is to do whatever I can to get this economy moving."

House Democrats are especially upset about a Dec. 6 White House meeting involving their party's leaders, Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, the administration's chief tax negotiator. Participants said Pelosi and one of her lieutenants, Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, knew the White House was nearing an agreement with Republicans, and they specifically objected to the proposed inheritance tax provisions.

Van Hollen says Obama and Biden indicated that no final deal had been cut. But shortly after the meeting ended, Obama announced the compromise reached with Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

White House officials say some details were negotiated almost to the last minute. But accounts of the meeting angered many House Democrats, who voted two days later to reject the tax cut plan unless it is changed.

"We left that meeting with the White House indicating that they had not yet cut final details," Van Hollen said in an interview. Referring to the estate tax provisions, he said, "Republicans are gloating because they got a windfall of $25 billion for the wealthiest estates." That would be added to the deficit, he noted.

White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer told the Associated Press, "We have been talking to the Democratic leadership since prior to the announcement and will continue to work closely with them to ensure that this important package is passed into law so the middle class doesn't face a tax increase."

Van Hollen says more negotiations will occur when the tax measure reaches the House, assuming the Senate approves Obama's version this week. House Democrats "are determined to strip the most egregious provisions from the bill, especially the estate tax giveaway," he vowed.

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WASHINGTON — The struggle over tax cuts is seriously straining President Barack Obama's relationship with House Democrats, who have backed him on key issues even when it cost them politically. ...
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den1953 09:49 AM on 12/14/2010
At some point this tax cut debacle will go through and then it will be once proven it hasn't worked time for finger pointing, and blaming one party or the other and the primary reason for this nations economic down turn will continue on, until every American jobs is gone to the foreign nation that out bids others for cheap labor. So once again showing Americans either party in Washington has no clue and  Read More...
09:32 AM on 12/15/2010
The only possible explanation: this president has now become a republican.
01:37 PM on 12/15/2010
The problem with trying to live at the expense of others is that others don't like it much. They stop producing and try to live at someone else's expense too. And pretty soon, you have a nation of poor zombies...feeding on the little living flesh still left alive.

"The idea that we can solve our structural-deficit problems merely by asking more of the well-off is totally unrealistic," said David Walker, who was US comptroller general from 1998 to 2008 and now leads a group advocating against deficits. "The math simply doesn't work."
05:47 PM on 12/15/2010
I think you should apologize to math.

The gap between rich and poor has ballooned. Your implication that the poor have been living at the expense of the rich is a classic “big lie”: it is exactly backwards, and because so much suffering is involved, it is offensive enough to leave decent people dumb-struck.

What is mathematically unsustainable, is for the rich to feed off of the poor and middle class, burp, look around at a country (and world) that they have ravaged PAST the point of ruin, and then demand MORE.

Your argument would be a little harder to see through if you hadn’t already created the outcome you encourage people to fear: The power structure has created a nation of poor (they were middle class, but the rich robbed them) zombies (they used to be competitively educated, but the rich raped public education).

If you insist on lying to yourself, at least stop lying to your fellow countrymen.
09:31 AM on 12/15/2010
When you start pissing off your own supporters en masse, you know the tires have come off the truck.
01:38 PM on 12/15/2010
Probably doesn't matter if there are more non-supporters than supporters.
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09:14 AM on 12/15/2010
First of all, Grayson's going out. He's a loser. He's only one vote until the end of the year, other than that he has no leverage.
Cummings will come back.
There were discussions with House and Senate leadership on what was possible with the lame duck. It's obvious that Pres. Obama took over negotiations because Cong. Dems were in shock over their pounding on Nov2.
My guess is that the Pres. will yield on the payroll tax cut because the economists say it will bring down the unemployment statistics. He will come roaring back as the defender of Soc. Sec. when campaign time starts.
He's going to win this argument, and then he's going to win the opinion war, and the left will have new-found respect for him.
Then, if that happens, the Dems will take back the House. That's my prediction.
08:37 AM on 12/15/2010
Look at that pic of Grayson.

Wow...what a l00n and a m u tt this guy is.

The most embarrassing member of Congress.
09:34 AM on 12/15/2010
He embarrassed his congressional district and they sent him packing. Now just a one termer. No House member deserved their loss more than Alan Grayson.
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08:21 AM on 12/15/2010
Their all beholden to the big money donate r any surprise.
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Fi
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07:53 AM on 12/15/2010
Grayson/Feingold 2012
09:35 AM on 12/15/2010
Grayson/Peter Cotten Tail 2012
06:59 AM on 12/15/2010
NEXT TIME we'll get single payer,NEXT TIME we'll get the public option,NEXT TIME, we'll get campaign fianance reform, NEXT TIME we' get cap and trade, NEXT TIME we'll get more regulation of big buisness, NEXT TIME we'll get fairer tax polocies, NEXT TIME we'll stop rendition, NEXT TIME we'll bring back habiuos corrpus, NEXT TIME we'll pass DADT, NEXT TIME we'll fix theoil proffiteers from polluting the planet, NEXT TIME NEXT TIME NEXT TIME..... RIGHT FRICKEN KNOW!!!!!!!
01:40 PM on 12/15/2010
Is it 420 at your house?
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04:39 AM on 12/15/2010
It's a lame game they play where threatening to do something counts as having done it. How many filibusters did we actually see since Obama took office? You know I'd win a lot more poker hands if you let my threatening to go all in count just the same as having done it. It appears to me that Obama is either working for the wealthy, or has been co-opted by them. Our government isn't there for the American people, it's there for the money that gets is elected.
01:41 PM on 12/15/2010
That's how corruption works. People want something for nothing all the time. But only some of the time are they able to get it. Now, Goldman gets free money from the Fed. The taxpayers expect free money too. And so, the whole society lives a lie - that each man can live at the expense of someone else.
04:17 AM on 12/15/2010
I haven't seen all posts on HP, and I don't know that this has been mentioned, but I haven't heard or seen it mentioned. The tax cuts that the middle class will get are just crumbs that #1, they should have gotten in increased wages over time, and #2, will be just enough for middle and working class people to spend to make the wealthy wealthier.

In the end, the wealthy come out on top from both ends. They get their tax cut and they get middle and low income people enough money in their pockets to spend because they've been so deprived over recent years and that spending will benefit corporations.
06:29 AM on 12/15/2010
And let's not forget that all these tax cuts are going to get added to the deficit. And in 2012, the Republicans are going to start yelling and screaming that the Dems exploded the deficit. And the Republicans, despite their hypocrisy, will not be entirely wrong. The Dems are now complicit.
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04:03 AM on 12/15/2010
While Moderate-Democrat Obama is on a mission to be a one-term President, we must support, volunteer for, & vote only for Progressives and Liberals in the 2012 Primary and General elections. We must do our best to ensure that Conservative & Moderate-Democrats keep losing even if, temporarily, a Republican wins that office. Then we can focus our attention on defeating the Republicans with a stronger Force.

Progressive Revolution, baby!
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04:09 AM on 12/15/2010
I still stand by my man (altho i am terribly dissapointed in him) but i will never be jilted enough to vote for anything Republican or conservative (or tea cup) for that matter. Yes now more than ever we have to stand strong and not let these mons.ters get their way and divide America even further!
04:18 AM on 12/15/2010
"Al Nava" did not write that progressives should vote for Reps. or conservatives.
01:42 PM on 12/15/2010
That's like riding a stock until it hits zero.
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03:02 AM on 12/15/2010
We pay taxes in this country to provide for the country. We pay for defense. We protect the environmen­t. We make sure that food, drugs and other products are safe for the citizens. We promote education, We make sure that the elderly, the young and those who as disabled are taken care of. Our taxes tilt the balance to make this one of the greatest nations in the world.

When we were paying taxes under the presidency of Clinton, there were over 22 million jobs created and a surplus. After Bush cut the tax rate, to ostensibly help the economy, the surplus became the biggest deficit in history and only 1 million jobs were created (with 800K of those being lost in the last 3 months of his reign of terror).

The people of this country and the people in Congress need to get a clue to keep the Republican­s from driving us over the cliff into another Great Depression with only the top 2% of earners in this country (which includes the folks in Congress) with a pot to p1ss in. I am willing to pay my fair share of taxes to keep this country going. Why won't Congress mandate the upper 2% to pay their fair share? It won't impact their standard of living, but it will impact the standard for the rest of the country.
12:50 AM on 12/16/2010
I'd rather lose my tax cut and them have to pay their share which would mean many more programs to help what once was, long ago, ---WAS ----the middle class.
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02:28 AM on 12/15/2010
Senate passes vote on Obama's tax cuts 83-15...nuff said !!
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02:28 AM on 12/15/2010
No one - including the wealthy - is receiving a dime in "tax cuts" from the government - we're simply being allowed to keep more of what we've EARNED. Its as if some were trying convince us that wealthy people didn't work like the "rest of us." Its as if we were being encouraged to hate those with more. What's next? "They don't deserve it so its okay to pass laws to take it?" Really? REALLY? I wonder if we really understand just what we're setting ourselves up for - all in the name of "the public good." And we think media types like Glenn Beck are dangerous? (At least I've not heard him encourage anyone to take anything from others.) Those who insist on promoting policies based on jealousy, envy and resentment represent a much more insidious and pervasive danger.
03:12 AM on 12/15/2010
I really don't think people spend their days thinking about how much they hate rich people. The reality is that you can't sustain a society when 90% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population.

Okay, if you don't care about this on a fairness level, then, as a purely practical matter, one should care. The issue isn't that people don't think that rich people don't work, it's that too many seem to think that middle class and poor people don't work hard enough to be rich...which, btw, isn't always a result of working hard.

All of these small businesses that went out of business during this last recession that supported Republican policies suffered the most because Bush economic policy cannibalized American workers jobs and wages. Without these people to patronize them, businesses that can't afford or don't want to operate in emerging markets overseas like major corporations will suffer.

Don't Republicans always talk about the importance of small businesses to society? It's okay to get rich, but it has to be on a level playing field and not on policies that transfer wealth unfairly from lower income individuals to upper income individuals.

Even you'd have to admit that middle and working class people not getting an increase in wages, in fact decreasing in wages over the past few years, can't be a good thing in the long run for this nation.
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04:08 AM on 12/15/2010
So which economic policy (Bush's, Obama's or anyone else's) could have prevented any employer from hiring cheaper labor? Then after you answer that one, please describe the policy that could've prevented the American consumer from buying the goods and services from foreign competitors using the same cheaper labor. To insist that the Bush administration caused this is disingenuous at best. As a web developer since 1995, I saw this coming a long time ago. The Internet has made it MUCH easier to take advantage of cheaper labor abroad.

And, again, your rhetoric is dangerous: "It's okay to get rich, but it has to be on a level playing field and not on policies that transfer wealth unfairly from lower income individual­s to upper income individual­s."

Which policies "transfer wealth unfairly from lower income individual­s to upper income individual­s" and who are you to determine what's unfair?
02:02 AM on 12/15/2010
The thing to do is to lower one's expectations of the president and then when he actually does something that's meaningful to progressives, we'll all be pleasantly surprised instead of extremely disappointed because expectations were too high.

Yes, it's a shame that it's come to that, but I've reached the point in this presidency where I'm beginning to tune out. Nothing the president says anymore even matters. He's like that teacher from Charlie Brown..."Wahh, wahh, wahh, wahh, wahh."

I reached this point at the beginning of Bush's presidency, but it took a while to get there with Mr. Obama's presidency.
01:29 AM on 12/15/2010
OK, one last time... I hope.

Let the damn tax cuts expire!

Increase the personal exemption to $5,000.

Everything will work out. Keep it simple.
07:28 AM on 12/15/2010
if things were simple we would not need them. thats why they EXPLOIT the situations to their benefit.