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David Wu: 2 For 1 Deal On Tax Cuts And Jobless Aid Goes Against Core Democratic Values

First Posted: 12/16/10 11:34 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

David Wu

A Democratic member of Congress who opposes President Obama's tax cut deal with congressional Republicans says the deal is fundamentally unfair because it gives two years of tax cuts for the rich in exchange for just one year of extra help for the jobless.

"The core concept is fairness. And it seems that fairness means an equitable matchup of the length of time in the tax proposal and the unemployment insurance proposal," Rep. David Wu (D-Ore.) told HuffPost on Thursday. "To me, it is a core Democratic value to have the benefits for folks who are trying to hold onto their apartments, or hold onto their car, or hold on to their health insurance, that they benefit concurrently with folks benefiting from the tax provisions. It just seemed intuitively obvious."

Rank-and-file House Democrats have rebelled against the White House's tax cuts compromise, prompting Democratic leadership to delay a Thursday morning vote that would have sent the bill to the president's desk. Democratic members have objected in particular to the process -- leadership planned to bring the bill to the House floor Thursday under a rule allowing for a vote on just one Democratic amendment.

"The outcome would have been different had it been the will of the caucus, had the caucus had an opportunity to work its will," Wu said. "Had we succeeded at the House level there would have been a subsequent engagement with the Senate and the White House. Quite frankly I think this is a battle that we Democrats want to have. I think it is both a policy mistake and a political mistake to not fight on this. I think ultimately a majority of Americans will agree with us."

Among the proposed changes left behind was Wu's resolution to equalize the duration of extended unemployment benefits and tax cuts. "The Democratic Caucus shall vote to consider a bill in the House where the extension date of all Bush tax cuts is equal to the extension of Unemployment Insurance Benefit," the resolution said.

Wu told Huffpost he withdrew the proposal on Tuesday at the request of House leadership. "It was withdrawn with the understanding it would be considered and what happened after that is murky to us all, and that's the unfortunate thing about the current way we make decisions within the caucus," Wu said.

Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, told HuffPost he asked Wu to pull the resolution because it probably wouldn't have had enough support within a caucus whose members were clamoring for attention to a plethora of problems in the compromise.

"In my view as chairman he would not have had the votes....He would have been precluding the other discussions from taking place," Larson told HuffPost. "I bent over backwards to give everybody in the caucus an opportunity to speak."

The only amendment that will reach the House floor would modify the White House's deal with Republicans to reduce the rate of the estate tax for wealthy heirs. The White House would exempt the first $5 million and tax the rest at 35 percent. Democrats want to exempt the first $3.5 million and tax the rest 45 percent.

"Where we could develop the greatest consensus and act with the greatest clarity was with doing away with the windfall for the wealthy on the estate tax," Larson said.

Congress failed to reauthorize Emergency Unemployment Compensation and Extended Benefits programs before they lapsed two weeks ago. The programs provided up to 73 weeks of benefits beyond the 26 standard weeks covered by states. More than a million people have already had their benefits interrupted.

The deal would reauthorize those programs and people who missed checks will be paid retroactively within a few weeks. The bill would keep the programs going through 2011, meaning people laid off at the beginning of 2010 would be able to receive up to 99 weeks of benefits. But another reauthorization a year from now will be much more difficult in a Republican-controlled House, even though the national unemployment rate will likely remain above 9 percent.

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TheHandyman 01:17 AM on 12/17/2010
I know that the true believers won't get this but by extending the Bush tax cuts for 2 more years Obama's whole 4 years will look exactly like GWB's except Obysmal is supposed to be a Democrat and the Hope of the People. It should be crystal clear that Obama is nothing more than Bush Junior! What isn't talked about is the effect of the 2% cut in social security taxes which have now become a bargaining chip.  Read More...
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alan2a
Actual Progressive
12:04 PM on 12/17/2010
Face it. The Democratic Party no longer stands for anything other than a slightly moderated Republican set of values, principles and policies. No Democrat of 20 or 30 years ago(with the exception of Dixiecrats) would recognize todays Democrats as Democrats. Granting there are still a few real Democrats( some of the progressive caucus and 2 or 3 Senators). The best hope would be for them to resign from the Democratic Party and either run as independents or for a real American Constitutional Party(you know a party that actually respects the constitution and its intent). That would be pretty novel, no more undeclared wars, no more attacks on American citizens without trial, no more indefinite detention, no more attempts to prosecute journalists, and on and on. Granted there might not be many of us, but at least we could vote for candidates that actually believed in America and what it is supposed to stand for(though of course that's never ever been the case)
09:31 PM on 12/17/2010
So I wonder how many more jobs will be offshored because people don't want to work in America?
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
11:34 AM on 12/17/2010
What really offends me with all of these politicians is that many of them say whatever we as voters want to hear...then when they get into the office...for whatever reasons, they seem to change their minds or vote for issues completely opposite to what the voters wanted...or
they seem to vote for and behave the way they want to and not the way voters intended.

This happens all the time...What Obama has done is nothing new...it has happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future...
Now...if only we can produce moral minded people who keep their promises for the good of the people and not for the good of the special groups or the wealthiest of this land, then we should be good to go...
11:41 AM on 12/17/2010
"Now...if only we can produce moral minded people"

They have already been produced. If we could just get the American public to vote for them. Now THAT would be sweet.
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
12:09 PM on 12/17/2010
Many of those moral minded people, myself included, are not interested in politics just because of how others behave and how one must almost go against one's promises it appears to get some of the job done...we have to change, overhaul everything about the way politicking works to drawl some of those honest people of society into that position...myself included :)
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LostInTheStars
11:27 AM on 12/17/2010
LOST FACTS:

1.Obama is more liberal than Bill Clinton was.

2. Whatever faults one may find with this bill, there is more in it that helps people who are hurting than there is that gives undeserved money to the wealthy.

3. Nothing ever gets done in Washington without compromise­.

4. The difference between the two parties is enormous. They are wider apart than they have ever been in American history. And realistica­lly there are only two choices since we don't have a parliament­ary system.

5. Disappoint­ed progressiv­es who want to pout and go home are actually hurting the progressiv­e cause even more than Fox News does.

6. The vast majority of people posting in this thread don't know what is in the bill. What we see here is mass hysteria every bit as ridiculous as what I have seen on right-wing blogs.
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mad lib
11:41 AM on 12/17/2010
So this WAS the change Obama was talking about?!

Didn't recognize it so much. My bad.

Not that I'm not thankful for stem cell research and a couple of other things...
11:45 AM on 12/17/2010
"2. Whatever faults one may find with this bill, there is more in it that helps people who are hurting than there is that gives undeserved money to the wealthy."

The reason those people are hurting is percicely Because their money has been given to the wealthy. This bill is not changing that fact it is exacerbating it.
11:05 AM on 12/17/2010
Sorry Congressman. We're tired of you and the Democrats class warfare games.
11:51 AM on 12/17/2010
And we're tired of Teab@g tr0lls
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FearlessLeader
I never lie. And I'm always right.
01:46 AM on 12/18/2010
The class warfare is the assult of the rich and the corporations on the middle class and the poor.
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KWiedemer
Denver Unemployment Examiner
11:04 AM on 12/17/2010
This is not good news for the long-term unemployed - they need to understand what has happened - and what has NOT happened to help them.

We 99ers need to focus our efforts on the media. I have several links in recent articles. I am on a campaign to educate the media - and the unemployed about the lack of assistance that Obama and Congress have given to the long-term unemployed - this is going to be a big story in the coming weeks/months as people start to realize they are OUT of UI benefits.

The CDLE will be issuing a press release aobut this in the coming day or so...

Denver Unemployment Examiner
http://www.examiner.com/unemployment-in-denver/media-politicans-sell-bill-of-goods-to-the-public-re-u-i-
12:06 PM on 12/17/2010
Thanks for this link. KW.
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
11:02 AM on 12/17/2010
So with everyone prepared to not vote for Mr. Obama in 2012, are you all prepared for a Republican White House? because it appears with all of your declaration of voting 3rd party or not at all, the GOP will hold steadfast and all their votes will go to their candidate...
So as long as you are prepared to have Rep President in 2012, dare i say Palin? go ahead, vote 3rd party or not at all...
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11:08 AM on 12/17/2010
Would it make any real difference, one way or the other? We are just having a continuation of the Clinton/Bush years, the same economic policies, the same war policies. Where's the change? The interests of the business/banking/military/foreign policy elites will be protected at all costs, whoever is elected. The rest of us here are just the extras.
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Adartist777
Overqualified
11:13 AM on 12/17/2010
We're just voting fodder.
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
11:18 AM on 12/17/2010
right...Obama ran on "Change" which energized this country and i too am disappointed that he turned out to be the same as the rest...
Change should have been something so outrageous, so down right smack in the face to those who want the same hum drum crap day after day...
but it appears, we have someone who is afraid of that "change" that he spoke of...
i am not sure what to expect in 2 years, whether Obama has something else up his sleeve or is this it?
i would like to give him the benefit of the doubt for now...will see what his next move is..perhaps the Dems are planning a revolution? hehe jk...but i want to know what is his next move...before i make my final decision which is still 2 years off..
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
11:13 AM on 12/17/2010
this is rather off topic but i wanted to mention since it appears to be quite true to the western society...
in many of the Eastern society, they seem to embrace one another and think of oneself as "We" rather than just "I".
In the Western culture, people are more concerned about "I" rather than "We" ...who cares what happens to the rest of the country as long as "I" prevail...
In many Eastern countries, they would rather want "We" to be victors and the outsider "I" has no claims and is not part of society...
It appears with this bill, i see the continued so-called progress of the Western society to individualize each other and to h3ll with us as a nation as long as the individual prevails...this is what will eventually destroy a society as a whole as each person reaches the top leaving behind his fellow man...the I in society is more important here than We the country as a whole...and eventually We will lose our country to the I's of this world.
11:46 AM on 12/17/2010
Very well put. The health care fiasco also totally backs up your point. Sadly the strongest players are masters at convincing others to vote against their own self-interests, usually by leveraging false patriotism, religious self-righteousness, and (most amazingly) the idea that you too might some day be super-rich and you'll want all these breaks too.

In other western countries there's a recognition that helping others is actually in your own self-interest - that by not having a poor underclass you reduce crime; that your quality of life improves when there are not mentally ill people sleeping in the streets & rummaging through garbage for food. And yet somehow people call themselves good Christians at the same time, claiming the moral high ground. Sad.
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
11:47 AM on 12/17/2010
Let me give you an example of "We" in society...Remember the Virginia Tech shooting? The shooter was a South Korean man who killed a lot of people..of course, many Koreans were saddened in both U.S. and in S. Korea...Remember how the president of S. Korea apologized to the U.S.? i can tell you the S.Koreans were deeply deeply sad that this happened and were all so sorry that it was one of them that killed so many...That is the mentality of the Eastern society...even though they were not at fault, it was just 1 man among millions and they were not at all in control of this man, many S. Koreans felt like they were violated too...
I cannot say that this is a good thing, to have a "We" mentality, however, at least this will start to make us think of one another as an extension of ourselves thus start to care for one another rather than continue to be apathetic towards others' needs.
10:59 AM on 12/17/2010
Presidential retirement benefits are the same for one or two terms. Obama's 1 term Presidential retirement benefit package combined with a a Celebrity Law Professor's paycheck will provide a secure future for his family. Why should he care about the base of the Democratic Party?
10:57 AM on 12/17/2010
In the 2012 elections, the president might just as well run as a republican and take away any doubt.
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JoAnnCr
10:50 AM on 12/17/2010
My senator, Tom Harkin (D), voted "No" on the extension of the tax cut for the wealthy. My Congressman, Dave Loebsack (D) and other senator, Chuck Grassley (R) voted "Yes." I had no hopes for Grassley as he has no conscience but Dave? Tell me it isn't so.

Now I ask each one of them to tell me how they will protect Social Security and pay down the debt without any more assaults on the middle class.

I also will not be voting again for Obama. Who else should we recruit?
10:58 AM on 12/17/2010
Michael Moore
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10:49 AM on 12/17/2010
A One Termer.

Time to look for a GENUINE DEMOCRAT.
10:47 AM on 12/17/2010
Somehow, I missed any mention of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid. Anyhow, here's one senior who will NOT vote for Obama again. Thanks for nothing, Mr. President.
10:41 AM on 12/17/2010
actually Wu's democratic party is dead! now it's just the 2nd face of the same party standing up for the rich and corporate welfare -

Wu better watch out - if he actually voted NO Obama will withhold reelection funds from him next time around.....
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sandyboy
10:38 AM on 12/17/2010
The day my "former president" signs this bill into law will be the "Second Day Which Will Live In Infamy!"
I will NEVER vote for him again. It seems this will mean voting for a third party candidate as I must vote to honor those women who came before me and nearly died to secure the vote for women. I will NOT forget in two years. He has abandoned the core values of Democrats. I stuck with him when he did not close Guantanamo, when he did not leave Iraq, when he gave up the public option but this was "the line in the sand for me!"
Hijacked
No bird soars so high if it has to do on its own
10:07 AM on 12/17/2010
STOP OBAMA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE: Yes, as the article implies Obama is keener on the next election than serving the majority of the US citizens who elected him as President. This Bill gives the long awaited opening for the Republicans to chip away social security, Medicare, Medicaid and other social benefits which the Republicans, now along with Obama, believe to be luxuries for the less privileged. Roosevelt did not think of the next election when he implemented those social legislation and, nor, did the Kennedys when they thought about enacting Civil Rights legislation in the 60s.

The Democratic must seriously look into challenging this man at the primaries, even though it may cost the presidency at the next election, because he is destroying the very Democratic values that made him get elected. A primary challenge would help the long term existence of the Democratic Party and its core values. The establishment will falsely portray that there is a huge difference between the two parties in order to keep the status quo, which is funneling all the resources to the Corporate Class. For the long term existence of the Middle Class, the Democrats must believe that their economic agenda is different from the Republican counterparts. The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, it appears, has now been narrowed to, either for or against abortions, gay rights, school prayer and a few others that may not significantly change the economic life of those without a voice.
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Totto
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10:16 AM on 12/17/2010
A primary challenge simply wouldn't work, just as it has not in the past. It would weaken Democratic chances in the next election an assure a Republican win. It's better to work within the Party to elect more progressives.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
10:19 AM on 12/17/2010
are you kidding? The Republicans will win the White Hoiuse in 2012 by treading water...the Dems do it to themselves....Obama's track recod so far will doom his re-election...Just wait until how it's portraiyed come election time...
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10:22 AM on 12/17/2010
I am not voting for this guy again !

If I want a repugnant, I'll vote for a repugnant.
10:02 AM on 12/17/2010
Publish the list. Let us know who to throw out of office next.