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After Bucking Holbrooke's Advice On Afghanistan, Obama Invokes His Name

First Posted: 12/16/10 03:48 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama asserted on Thursday that the White House's questionable assessment of progress in Afghanistan "reflect[s] the dedication of Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, whose memory we honor and whose work we'll continue."

There's little doubt that the president's chief envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, who died Monday of complications from an aortic dissection, tried his damnedest to make Obama's strategy work.

But the reality is that a year ago, when Obama was choosing between escalation and deescalation in the region, Holbrooke was one of several top advisors who cautioned him that the path he ultimately chose -- sending in 30,000 more American troops -- simply could not succeed.

Behind closed doors, Holbrooke was widely known to be one of the most voluble members of a high-level faction that Obama chose to spurn.

In Obama's War, Bob Woodward writes that Holbrooke considered it a "central truth" that the war "would not end in a military victory," but rather when the warring parties were "brought together diplomatically."

Woodward also describes Holbrooke's conclusion that escalation wouldn't change the two weakest links in the U.S. plan -- namely, corruption and the sorry state of the Afghan police -- and just might make them worse. "Our presence is the corrupting force," Holbrooke is quoted as saying. As for the Afghan police, their enormous attrition rates make Obama's recruitment goals impossible. "It's like pouring water into a bucket with a hole in it, " Holbrooke reportedly said.

At the time, Vice President Joe Biden was consistently if privately arguing against sending more troops to Afghanistan, saying the focus should shift to Pakistan.

Ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry, in his famously-leaked cables to the White House, warned that Afghan President Hamid Karzai "is not an adequate strategic partner" and concluded:

The proposed troop increase will bring vastly increased costs and an indefinite, large-scale U.S. military role in Afghanistan, generating the need for yet-more civilians. An increased U.S. and foreign role in security and governance will increase Afghan dependency, at least in the near-term, and it will deepen the military involvement in a mission that most agree cannot be won solely by military means. Further, it will run counter to our strategic purposes of Afghanizing and civilianizing government functions here.

According to Woodward, Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute, the president's Afghanistan advisor, told Obama of the troop increase the military was pushing for, "you don't have to do this."

Woodward wrote that Lute saw enormous, compounding dangers in the war. "Look at them as a set, and then you begin to move, in my mind, from a calculated risk to a gamble," Lute reportedly told Obama. "And if you add those risks up and ask me where I think we'll be in July 2011, sort of your big decision point, I'm telling you I think that we're not going to be a whole lot different than we are today."

John O. Brennan, Obama's counterterrorism adviser, also opposed a large increase in troops, Woodward reported.

But, Woodward wrote: "Perhaps the most pessimistic view came from Richard Holbrooke. 'It can't work,' he said."

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that family members said Holbrooke's final words as he was sedated for surgery were to his Pakistani surgeon: "You've got to stop this war in Afghanistan."

The White House quickly tried to squelch that storyline, insisting that his comment was just "part of a jovial back-and-forth with the medical staff."

But the statement would have been consistent with his privately held, if not publicly expressed, views.

Daniel Ellsberg, the Vietnam-era whistleblower who leaked the Pentagon Papers, said he knew Holbrooke when the future envoy was a State Department advisor in Vietnam. Holbrooke was quick to comprehend that war's futility, Ellsberg said.

"I knew that he had to recognize Afghanistan as the same type of war," Ellsberg said on Wednesday. "The differences are obvious but not significant. The hopelessness of it is fundamental."

Ellsberg said that despite what Holbrooke felt compelled to say in public, "At least he went out having said some true words, first to Bob Woodward a year ago, and then to his relatives as he went to the operating table."

Obama, discussing his administration's annual review of the conflict on Thursday, insisted that "we are making considerable gains toward our military objectives." U.S. troops have "gone on the offensive, targeting the Taliban and its leaders and pushing them out of their strongholds," he said.

But at a conference for historians on southeast Asia just 10 weeks ago, Holbrooke spoke of Vietnam in ways that were eerily reminiscent of Afghanistan today:

Our beloved nation sent into battle soldiers without a clear determination of what they could accomplish and they misjudged the stakes ...

We fought bravely under very difficult conditions. But success was not achievable. Those who advocated more escalation or something called, "staying the course," were advocating something that would have led only to a greater and more costly disaster afterwards.


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Dan Froomkin is senior Washington correspondent for The Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail, bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed, follow him on Twitter, friend him on Facebook, and/or become a fan and get e-mail alerts when he writes.

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama asserted on Thursday that the White House's questionable assessment of progress in Afghanistan "reflect[s] the dedication of Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, whose me...
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ChasG 05:15 PM on 12/16/2010
Wow.  I had no idea Obama's advisors ever disagreed on anything.  [sarcasm, in case it's not obvious]  I'm sure everyone in the White House has disagreed with everyone else in the White House at least once.  What this story shows is that they can agree to disagree without losing respect for one another.  We need more of that.
 
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07:15 PM on 12/23/2010
Merry Christmas everyone from the Department of Defense. You just bought!!!!!!!!!!

A bigass stocking stuffer. Only 1Billion. God Bless everyone...............in Afghanistan.

This deluge of war profiteering has been going all year. http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/

DynCorp International, LLC, Falls Church, Va., was awarded on Dec. 20 a $1,043,726,525 cost-plus-fixed-fee contract. The award will provide for specialized training and mentoring services for the government of Afghanistan, and provide logistics and life support components for 14 training facilities in Afghanistan. Work will be performed in Afghanistan with an estimated completion date of Aug. 19, 2014. The bid was solicited through the Internet with eight bids received. The U.S. Army Research, Development and Engineering Command Contracting Center, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md., is the contracting activity (W91CRB-11-C-0053).

It is embarrassing that we had politicians withholding payment for 9/11 Responders.
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cadawa
09:12 PM on 12/18/2010
Obama's shame has no shame. What a tool.
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Bellanova
I'm nobody. Who are you?
10:49 PM on 12/18/2010
Shame interferes with ambition. As such, it's not useful for people who are devoted largely to growing and solidifying their power. And that appears to be Obama's main goal in life, as evidenced by his actions.
06:44 AM on 12/18/2010
Ten years, trillions of dollars and many many lives gone yet the great military might of the USA has failed in eliminating a few hundred terrorists. It seems to me that we as a nation must be suffering from a particular form of media induced brain damage to continue to pay for and support such an obvious scam. Nothing has been achieved with our overwhelming force nor will it ever be. It's high time for a paradigm shift away from the circa world war 2 era, Pavlovian perception of "our brave troops saving the world".
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SparkyDash
Save a pretzel for the gas jets.
07:49 PM on 12/17/2010
Froomkin gets a little more off with each HP post. I wonder if he believes all that he writes...
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SamEllison
I feel so clean!
12:40 PM on 12/17/2010
scub-a-dub-dub
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Beatriz09
09:57 AM on 12/17/2010
To those who believe that the WH said that Holbrooke wasn't serious about ending the war: what the WH meant by saying that it was a joke was of course NOT that for Holbrooke ending this war was a joke ... . To me, suggesting something like that, as some pundits on the left are doing for the moment, is completely absurd.
 
What indeed was a joke was that the medical staff of Holbrooke told him THEY would end the war, that he shouldn't worry about that at the very moment he would be operated. But OF COURSE those doctors don't have anything to do with the war, they would never be able to stop it once they operated Holbrooke. So YES, Holbrooke and his medical staff were joking. Only NOT about the war itself, but about the doctors' ability to stop wars.
 
Holbrooke and the entire Obama team AGREE on the fact that this war should be stopped. When it came to strategy, they also agreed on the essential idea of this administra­tion: the military alone will never solve this problem. Where they disagreed was on HOW to solve it, and which role the military should have. Obama and many others think that without first getting the Taliban out of the cities, a political solution will be impossible­. Holbrooke thought that it might be possible even when the Taliban continue to have a strong military position. And that's it. In the end, nobody can know who is right on this, Obama or Holbrooke. I suppose that Obama combined all the arguments of all his brilliant advisers, and then decided to try to first get rid of the Taliban militarily­.
 
So things are MUCH more complicate­d than this headline suggests.
 
To understand what's at stake in Afpak and how the administra­tion tries to solve the problem, the press conference Hillary, Gates and General Cartwright gave is imho a good beginning:
 

http://www­­.whitehou­s­e.gov/ph­ot­os-and-­vid­eo/vid­eo/2­010/1­2/16/­pres­s-brie­fin­g-afgha­ni­stan-pak­i­stan-annu­­al-review
06:19 PM on 12/17/2010
Sorry, Holbrooke was right on this one, and it's not complicated to know that there is no way, you can chase away citizen from their country. Taliban people are fundementalists just like christian evangelical american republicans are, except that Taliban can't wait to fight us and die and get reward of 72 virgins. So, they have a strong will of resistance than the founding fathers and americans had, when fighting the british colonialists in this country, hundreds years ago for independence.
You may call them terrorists in the USA but in their country, they are viewed like freedom fighters, and that's what matters for them, much less their desire for martyrdom.

The question is: if the british failed to take over our country, why do you think the Talibans will fail to get rid off of the invanders from their country? Sorry, Obama knew better and tried to act like a republican president and sided with Hillary and Gates who were pushing for war escalation. Escalating this war is a decision that he will come to regret and will hunt him all his life because he knows not only more about the world than what the cowboy of texas, W, knew, but also because this war escalation has made him a war criminal and he knew that the Talibans will not go away.
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Chubbster
Always Under Moderation
09:56 AM on 12/17/2010
Total capture by the War Machine, an American enterprise dedicated solely to increasing the amount of violent death, suffering and misery in the world for profit.
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Doc Scott
Criminologist, media pundit and expert
09:37 AM on 12/17/2010
Make no mistake. Afghanistan IS Obama's war of choice. There is nothing to be won by remaining there except profits for the military-industrial complex. The puppet Afghan government is full of corruption and the Afghan people want the U.S. out now. The over reliance on private contractor­s by the Pentagon, i.e., paid mercenarie­s, in Afghanista­n who are not under the direct supervisio­n of the U.S. military, and thus have little to no accountabi­lity, run rampant and undermine the efforts of the military. They make wealthy, arm and enable the very groups that the U.S. is supposedly there to rid Afghanista­n and the world of. This is exactly the type of corruption that took place in Iraq and it is happening again in Afghanista­n.

The private "guns for hire" only worsens an already bad and unnecessar­y situation in Afghanista­n. Osama bin Laden is long gone and the Taliban pose no objective or imminent threat to the U.S. The continued occupation of Afghanista­n is wrong and even illegal according to the the Geneva Convention­s. The heavy reliance on paid mercenarie­s only threatens the safety of Afghans and U.S. soldiers, emboldens our supposed enemies, and reminds us of the greed of war and who really benefits, i.e., the military-i­ndustrial complex. It is time for the U.S. to get out of Afghanista­n now!” Heed the final words of Richard Holbrooke, Mr. President.
09:19 AM on 12/17/2010
Kill al qaeda - get out! that was nine years ago.
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09:10 AM on 12/17/2010
still calling it a war? it's a farce. you know what will be different after we leave?

not a damn thing.
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08:53 AM on 12/17/2010
A Congressional subcommittee has reached the conclusion that the Pentagon is knowingly providing major support for the Taliban, ignoring hundreds of complaints from Afghan trucking contractors who are being forced to pay massive "protection payments" to insurgents in order to avoid attacks on convoys carrying US military supplies to American bases.

http://www.truth-out.org/us-taxpayer-dollars-killing-american-troops-afghanistan65995
09:57 AM on 12/17/2010
Thank you for posting this. It just gets more absurd by the day and more insulting to the American taxpayers and the soldiers and their families. What is also not being publicized is the growing number of soldiers experiencing cancer and other health problems directly related to breathing and exposure of so-called Depleted Uranium used extensively there. This will cause problems for the rest of their lives, and anyone else exposed to it.
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Mister C
08:48 AM on 12/17/2010
Dan Froomkin and Shashein Nasipourin....are Obama best friends.....They NEVER write anything good about him!
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cybersense
08:44 AM on 12/17/2010
After reading up on Holbrooke and his specialized background, I have found a diversified person. I have no doubt the whole goal for the Admin. to end the war in Afghan and Pakistan, but never did Holbrooke not understand that goal, and his comments that were taken from bits and pieces of his views are printed to somehow say he was not on the same team as Hillary Clinton, or Obama and the rest of those involved in this war. He was for the Iraq war, and he played many roles within the Clinton Admin, Bush Admin, all the way back to JFK. Some of you would be surprised at what this man did, and would most probably look upon him differently then the man you see saying we must stop this war in Afghan. . Oh, indeed it was his job to find a way to fight the war effectively, and he was a bold man it seems. But, I am very doubtful that he would want any one to think that the efforts that this Adminstration, including finding a way to end the war - wasn't inline with the President's. Reading on his history of his involvement in all the problems in wars, I found him very likelable and at the same time, painfully "not so". If you want someone to go in and find a way to deal with those who are difficult, it would have been Holbrooke. Sometimes that meant some pretty violent things, and sometimes that meant a very well greased diplomat.
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hrc04
put on your pants and go home.
08:39 AM on 12/17/2010
I'm continually disappointed in the reporting on HP these days. Obama didn't hire a group of yes men as advisers...remember the whole "team of rivals" theme the media ran with early on? He wants competing views in the room. He's not some catty teenager. I mean, Biden disagreed on Afghanistan too, and he's still Vice President.
09:38 AM on 12/17/2010
then why aren't the results better?
Why is the egg all over his face ...er..constantly?
Why the caving -in and moves to the right?
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Beatriz09
10:03 AM on 12/17/2010
WHO's saying that the results aren't better?
 
Imho, they are MUCH better. EVEN when "we the people" voted for 41 GOP Senators, which means that NO bill can arrive on the president's desk without at least one Republican vote, in other words, without Reid having found a compromise between the president's agenda and the GOP.
 
To hear how things are better when it comes to ending the war in Afghanistan: 

http://www­­.whitehou­s­e.gov/ph­ot­os-and-­vid­eo/vid­eo/2­010/1­2/16/­pres­s-brie­fin­g-afgha­ni­stan-pak­i­stan-annu­­al-review
Of course, after only 2 years, and 6 months of implementation of a totally new Afpak strategy, there are no miracles. Change is always a step by step process. But I don't understand how you can compare the philosophy AND the first results of this administration to that of the previous one.
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Beatriz09
10:20 AM on 12/17/2010
Exactly.
 
I don't understand the reasoning of this article: if one of the brilliant people being part of the diverse team of Obama advizers dies, Obama should NOT pay tribute to him, only because on certain aspects they disagreed .. ? As if it's impossible to strongle appreciate someone you don't always agree with ... ?
 
"Those who aren't with me are against me" ... where did I hear that before ... ?
 
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Tom Pumroy
practical dreamer-artist Man Ray
08:29 AM on 12/17/2010
Pride cometh before a fall, hubris overshadows and blinds us while we head ever closer to the ditch that we ourselves have dug. Arrogance and overweening pride what some call American exceptionalism is the toxic horse that we are condemned to ride into our sunset, we are reaping what we have sown.

From Psalms 9:
15 The nations have dug a pit and fallen in;
they have been caught in their own trap.
16 The Lord has revealed himself by his righteous judgments,
and the wicked are trapped by their own deeds.