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iPhone Donations: There's No App For That

Iphone Donations

First Posted: 12/20/10 01:18 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

Apple has been making it very difficult for people to donate to charity using their iPhones, and the nonprofit world is not happy.

In August, while Apple's official policy on mobile giving was still unclear, PayPal added a feature to its iPhone app that allowed users to donate to a charity or nonprofit of their choice with the click of one button. Within two months, the app raised $10,000 for charities in the United States, the UK and Canada. Then, in late October, Apple asked PayPal discontinue the feature, offering little explanation as to why.

"Apparently, if you want to make a donation, you can put a link to a website in your app, but it can't be a donation feature inside the app itself," said Clam Lorenz, the vice president of operations for Missionfish, which worked with PayPal to power its mobile giving app. "We've been asking the question, 'Why was this feature removed?' I haven't heard anything from Apple. No one can get a straight answer."

Apple did not respond to HuffPost's request for comment, and an Apple spokesperson would only tell the New York Times, "We are proud to have many applications on our App Store which accept charitable donations via their Web sites."

The reason Apple's policy is problematic as written, Lorenz told HuffPost, is that in order to donate to a charity using their iPhones, people have to click a button on an app, leave the app and be redirected to a separate web page where they then have to type in their credit information on a tiny screen with a difficult-to-use keyboard. People are more likely to use their iPhones to donate to charity, he said, if they can just click one button on an app and donate using the credit information they have already saved in the PayPal database.

"It's a challenge to say the least, especially on the first three tries," Lorenz said of the iPhone's current donation process. "In my ten-plus years of experience working in the nonprofit world, I've learned that ease of use is everything. Every click you add to the process knocks a percentage of people out of the equation."

Justin Kazmark, the co-founder of a mobile giving app called "Givabit," also ran into trouble with Apple when he tried to get his app approved. He says his team submitted their app to Apple in 2009, and Apple responded a month later with a laundry list of cryptic guidelines.

"They said we couldn't use the word 'phonelanthropy' in our app, or any language alluding to philanthropy, and they told us we couldn't use specific amounts of money in the app," he told HuffPost. "They didn't seem to have any specific policy on the subject, but they didn't want this to happen and made it clear that they were not comfortable with any in-app donations whatsoever."

Kazmark said that after three or four rounds of haggling with Apple, they ended up launching the Givabit app using Apple's guidelines, but the app provided such a bad user experience that it failed to generate many donations.

"The app was much different than our initial conception of it," he said. "My understanding is that it hasn't been a success."

While Apple has yet to explain the reasoning behind its mobile giving guidelines, Jake Shapiro, executive director of Public Radio Exchange, told the New York Times that Apple is trying to avoid the extra responsibilities it would incur by allowing donations directly through iPhone apps. "One of Apple's major objections has been that if donations were to go through its payment mechanism, it would have to be in the business of managing and distributing funds and verifying charities as well," he said.

Another potential problem for Apple is that it takes a 30 percent cut from all of its iTunes and App Store transactions, which would not be an acceptable amount of money to collect from charitable donations.

But Apple's mobile giving policy may give an edge to its competitors this holiday season, as leaders in the nonprofit world are loudly expressing their frustrations with the company. Beth Kanter, a consultant to the non-profit industry and author of "The Network Nonprofit," announced to her 367,000 followers on Twitter last week that she plans to trade in her iPhone for Google's Android or the Windows 7 phone, both of which allow in-app donations.

"There are many other tech companies besides Apple that aren't grinches," she told HuffPost. "All month I've been saying, what phone should I get? Which one's not as stingy to nonprofits? The Android and Windows 7 both have decent charitable corporate citizen programs, and they support nonprofits. What does Apple do for nonprofits besides prevent them from being effective fundraisers?"

Kanter started an online petition through her blog, through which over 8,000 people have sent messages to Steve Jobs letting him know that they are not happy with Apple's mobile giving policies.

"It's a holiday giving season, and donations are down," she said. "This is causing a big revenue loss for charity."

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08:22 PM on 12/21/2010
Try mobile app www.ammado.com/donate

You have to choose your charity and payment details (paypal is accepted amongst 30 other payment methods) the first time you come on, but if you choose to create an ammado account it remembers your payment details and it's genuinely a couple of clicks to donate. I use nothing else and it couldn't be easier - especially as most of us donate to the same few charities all the time.
10:33 PM on 12/20/2010
anti-capitalist practices...
06:45 PM on 12/20/2010
Apple only likes apps that they can make money off of.

And people thought that Microsoft was bad?
02:55 PM on 12/20/2010
If vetting charities are the primary reason for Apple denying donation apps, GuideStar has the answer. We confirm charitable status all the time: http://ceo.guidestar.org/2010/12/15/apple-has-it-partly-right-nonprofits-should-be-vetted/
04:45 AM on 12/22/2010
True, but what's about Guidestar's current geographical limitation? I dont think it would be a challenge for Apple to confirm an organization as a 501(c)(3) or even as properly registered in some other countries such as UK and Germany but we in ammado currently have nonprofits from 170 countries on the platform and vetting in all these places IS a challenge (especially if it's not your core business such as in Apple's case)
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gfs5541
01:02 PM on 12/20/2010
I think the whole thing is total nonsense. If you need the convenience of a cell phone in order to donate to charity, then it's a truly sad day. Moreover, there are workarounds. Just check out the example to the Democratic Party's iOS app. There's a "donate" button that just launches a mobile safari version of a donation page with everything you need to throw away your money.
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miamorphos
01:36 PM on 12/20/2010
I too thought this story was a little odd. Are there really people who won't donate because there isn't an app for it? The more I think about it, the more this story doesn't pass the smell test. Besides, people can use their mobile phones -- of any brand -- to call 1-800 numbers and say, "I would like to donate."
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12:50 PM on 12/20/2010
For all Apple's rave in user friendlyness....Their products Ipod are electronic waste! Customers CANNOT change its batteries, when Done TOSS IT along with all the other short lived gadgits they make. Apple does offer to change the batteries for you - at the same price to buy a new Ipod.

Wasteful Electronics - Apple Inc. You Disappoint me once again.
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miamorphos
01:36 PM on 12/20/2010
Well, I'm not a huge Apple fan, but I am a moderate, and this denunciation of Apple seems a little over the top. Is Apple really that much worse than other corporations in this regard?
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Nobody78
A little left of Center
01:52 PM on 12/20/2010
YES
12:39 PM on 12/20/2010
Thanks Apple...
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jgeurian21
12:05 PM on 12/20/2010
As it was pointed out in a recent article on the differences between Apple and MS; their is a machine for everyone in MS and Apple is only a machine for a few. Apple makes "high-end" systems for a certain population of people while OEMs and MS make machines for everyone. Why cry out how a closed ecosystem will not allow certain apps? Sort of like being shocked that China censors its Internet.
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miamorphos
01:38 PM on 12/20/2010
I am troubled by the idea of a corporation having to approve apps anyway. I mean, telling people that they can't have an anti-gay app (there was a kerfuffle about this last week) is kind of intrusive, no? I deplore anti-gay attitudes, but I recognize that a lot of fairly mainstream religions have beliefs about homosexuality or premarital sex that are abhorrently backward -- and yet I wouldn't want to ban apps tied to those religious beliefs, as Jobs's company did.
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11:46 AM on 12/20/2010
what a bunch of crybabies! just go to the android platform and stop yer whining.
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Axekick
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolve
07:07 PM on 12/20/2010
done.
11:11 AM on 12/20/2010
Apple saps...you are being played by this guy everday of the week...he cares about no one except himself...ask the slaves that make his product...why would he care about people wanting to make donations that are not to him...
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stepintothelight
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
11:23 AM on 12/20/2010
Because he wakes up every morning asking himself ....

"Hmmmm??? What can I do today to pi$$ off that Rick Eriksen guy on Huff Po???"
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12:15 PM on 12/20/2010
too bad Jobs ever introduced the Mac, we'd all still be using the great DOS command line still...
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Nobody78
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01:54 PM on 12/20/2010
I highly doubt that.
11:09 AM on 12/20/2010
People, do we really need an app just to give? Don't people know how to use browsers anymore on their smartphones? You know, you can also use it look at nakkid people, something which many people want but the apple store doesn't allow.

The irony is that smart phones are making people dumb.
12:44 PM on 12/20/2010
Right on!!
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Zach Stein
10:28 AM on 12/20/2010
Only reason Jobs doesn't want this in the apps is he believes he's entitled to a cut.
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PlutocratsSuck
Godless heathen liberal...and loving it.
10:26 AM on 12/20/2010
This thread is a blast. I haven't had this much fun since I did my taxes.
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10:37 AM on 12/20/2010
Amish? Are you Mennonite?
No, we are not.
My children called it an "Amish Grounding" cause they are not allowed near or use any electronic devices.
I have two of them who are computer addicts.....so we have to closely monitor their time spent on the computers.....hence Amish Grounding
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Godless heathen liberal...and loving it.
10:46 AM on 12/20/2010
I see, that's clever. I worked with a Mennonite once, it was a trip. He dressed like a traditional Amish, very plain, had a beard, straw hat, the whole 9 yards. Yet he drove a Dodge Ram, had a cell phone, and cursed like a sailor in Dutch. It was surreal.
03:40 PM on 01/18/2011
The name's not clever...it's actually kind of disrespectful.
10:24 AM on 12/20/2010
MASAWA.org - Kicking poverty in the apps!
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DushanRadovic
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10:23 AM on 12/20/2010
This from the company famous for it's "1984" commercial? How times have changed.