South Carolina Celebration Of Secession Sparks New Tensions

The State:

Two of the first events scheduled to mark the anniversary -- a privately sponsored secession ball Monday in Charleston and an effort to display the original Ordinance of Secession -- show just how divisive the Civil War remains.

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Comments

[davcrock]

04:48 AM on 12/23/2010

Ironic that a large number of the posters on this story display a bias and hatred of the South more virulent than most of the Union soldiers who fought against it and at whom Southerners shot (and thus had much better reasons for hatred).  These posters almost make me understand to some degree what it was that drove the South from the Union.  They certainly display the kind of uncivil attitude on both sides that had something to do with igniting that war, regardless of the reasons that it was fought.

[LiberalOutlaw]

09:23 PM on 12/22/2010

Paddle faster, I hear banjos.

[Agentprovokatur]

07:22 PM on 12/21/2010

The only response to preposterous actions and lies like this is the light of Truth. When served with a touch or irony and a dash of satire it's a very tasty dish.

The rest of the country should make a National Holiday of April 9, the day Lee surrendered his Army of Northern Virginia and ended the "War of Treason". There could be speeches by Abolitionists and rallies where scale models of Atlanta are burned to the ground celebrating Sherman's scorched earth "March to the Sea". Then come 2015, the 150th anniversary of that date, maybe we burn down the actual Atlanta and the capitals of all the other traitorous states that rebelled and were rightfully crushed and then returned to the Union.

Just saying, if you want to REALLY celebrate something, let's celebrate the truth and the good in that horrible war.

[Agentprovokatur]

09:05 PM on 12/21/2010

Ok, Ok, maybe that was a little harsh.

Instead, maybe we install a turret from one of our retired battleships (say the Missouri, which was the site of another historic victory - Japan's surrender in WWII) at Fort Sumpter, and then every December it can shell South Carolina for a few minutes (maybe one minute for each year of Treason) as a reminder that despite the efforts of the traitors of yesteryear, and their modern counter-wonks, the house that they tried (and some still are attempting) to divide against itself, still stands.

[justin i]

12:37 PM on 12/21/2010

I wonder if they will read the South Carolina declaration of secession at any of these events? The declaration lists reasons for which SC decided to secede, and every reason for secession stemmed from the practice of slavery.

Its really disgusting to celebrate this.

[AndyB62]

08:58 AM on 12/21/2010

I bet if South Carolina filed articles of secession today, none of the other 49 states would stop them.

[FatFeline]

01:46 AM on 12/21/2010

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten,
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land.

In Dixie Land, where I was born in,
early on one frosty mornin',
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land.

I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie

[scottymac11]

02:24 AM on 12/21/2010

Save your Dixie cups. The moonshine will start flowing soon.

[Samiiam]

01:05 AM on 12/21/2010

The south actually is more united since they lost civil war which was my Masters thesis in 1972

[libluv235]

11:32 PM on 12/20/2010

They obviously see no problem with their behavior. Do they realize they lost and the rest of us are barely tolerating them as it is.

[davcrock]

04:51 AM on 12/23/2010

Who do you mean the rest of us, Tonto?

[BigPictureReg]

11:16 PM on 12/20/2010

When one is otherwise void of substance, just about anything is acceptable as a substitute to fill it.

This isn't a celebration. This is an extension and glorification of chronic denial.

[kaptaintripps]

09:42 PM on 12/20/2010

Are these people (...and are the-really-stewpid Southerners actually people...) for real?

[multifarious]

08:50 PM on 12/20/2010

Is Sarah Palin supplying the desserts?

[p456]

11:40 PM on 12/20/2010

Yes moose berries and yak cream.

[gintheb]

08:14 PM on 12/20/2010

As a black person, I always get very upset at the way we react to these circumstances. These people will always say its a celebration of their heritage and southern culture, blah, blah blah. The reason that they do things like this and flying the confederate flag is because they know that they always count on a bunch of blacks marching and protesting and singing "We Shall Overcome", all for naught. I say we try this: They fly the confederate flags in their yards and on their trucks. We bring back the old red, black and green Black Liberation flags and fly them in our yards and on our trucks. They plan a celebration to honor the start of the civil war. We wait until its over and plan a celebration commemorating the Nat Turner and other slave rebellions throughout the south. Stonewall Jackson?- Toussaint L'overture (I know he was Haitian). Robert E. Lee?-Marcus Garvey. Make boxer Jack Johnson one of most renown heroes (no one deserves it more. Even McCain agrees). On and on. It might work, it might not, but at least we'll be operating from a position of strength.

[Demarcus Jackson]

09:10 PM on 12/20/2010

I tend to agree with you.

[scottymac11]

02:22 AM on 12/21/2010

The point isn't to convince them. They know what they preach is a sham. They want to repeat the lies over and over again through the decades hoping a we will tire of ansewering with truth. Then their deception will catch on to the unlearned.

[gintheb]

11:44 AM on 12/21/2010

point taken

[toddsocal]

08:08 PM on 12/20/2010

I think that this ball is disgusting. Too bad the north was so easy on the south. I'd like to see the Confederate battle flag struck down in South Carolina. They were traitors then and they are traitors now. On a more important level they are traitors to America, where "All Men Are Born Equal." It shows you how backward South Carolina still is, celebrating secession is celebrating slavery. I had ancestors who fought for the South, and ancestors who owned slaves. Proud, I am not of this unfortunate American legacy. Southerners when will you ever grow up, there was nothing noble about fighting for slavery and trying to tear the country apart. Maybe try to be decent 21st century citizens and quit treating African-Americans with racial prejudice.

[bigmacha]

07:44 PM on 12/20/2010

The South is still fighting the Civil War and regretting that they had to give up their slaves. That there is a black man in the White House has certainly got to be sticking in their collective throats.

At the end of the day, this celebration is nothing more then the celebration of the most treasonous act in the history of our country. 600,000 soldiers died because of this act of treason and there is absolutely no valid reason to celebrate this event of fly the rebel act.

These are the same people that cheered when Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were executed for passing secrets to the Russians and, are undoubtably calling Assange a traitor as well. Best they look in the mirror.

[ttaz4dqm]

07:24 PM on 12/20/2010

I hail from MO, originally, and don't ever let anyone tell you that it's not The South, there. My grandfather, a good man in so many other ways, was a racist, cut and dried. Despite the efforts of my parents and others, he went to his grave in the 80's still unable to bring himself to use the term 'black' when describing black people. He always said 'negro'. Up until 1970 or so, he used an even less popular term, one which I was quite rightly not permitted to utter in my parent's household. Curse the South and the millstone around our national necks that it remains to this day!