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Phoenix Controversy Highlights Rift Between Catholic Hospitals And Church Leadership

St Josephs Hospital

First Posted: 12/23/10 02:13 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

By Daniel Burke
Religion News Service

An umbrella group of Catholic hospitals is backing a Phoenix hospital that was stripped of its church affiliation, sowing the seeds for another sharp conflict between the hierarchy and Catholic health care providers.

Sister Carol Keehan, president of the Catholic Health Association, said St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center "correctly applied" church guidelines when it terminated the pregnancy of a dangerously ill woman last year.

Catholic Healthcare West, the parent company for St. Joseph's, is a member of the CHA, which represents more than 620 hospitals and 60 health care systems in the U.S.

"They had been confronted with a heartbreaking situation," Keehan said in a statement, adding that the hospital saved "the only life that was possible to save."

Earlier this year, Keehan and the CHA backed President Obama's health care bill over fierce objections from U.S. bishops, who argued that it allows funding of elective abortions.

Because Catholic Healthcare West operates in several dioceses, the conflict may well expose fissures between bishops who take a hard line on Catholic doctrine and those more willing to compromise, according to church scholars.

"Health care seems to be the fault line developing between the bishops and within wider society," said the Rev. Steven Avella, a Catholic priest and professor of religious history at Marquette University in Milwaukee.

Earlier this year, an Oregon bishop terminated the church affiliation of a large medical center, saying it had abandoned Catholic ethical guidelines. In April, the bishop of Providence, R.I., demanded that the state's only Catholic hospital quit the CHA over the group's support of the health care bill.

Rusty Reno, a senior editor at the conservative Catholic journal First Things, said such conflicts are likely to continue as Catholic health care follows the lead of its secular counterparts.

"The bishops recognize they have a problem, which is that you have a health care system that calls itself Catholic, but refuses to conform to Catholic principles," he said.

The Phoenix controversy centers on a Catholic mother who agreed to terminate her pregnancy last November after doctors at St. Joseph's told her that she and the baby would likely die if it continued, according to the hospital.

On Tuesday (Dec. 21), Phoenix Bishop Thomas Olmsted revoked the hospital's official church affiliation, which means St. Joseph's can no longer call itself "Catholic," celebrate Mass on its premises, or keep consecrated Communion wafers in its chapel.

Olmsted had asked the hospital to admit it was wrong to terminate the pregnancy, to grant him greater oversight to ensure compliance with Catholic doctrine, and to teach medical staff about the bishops' guidelines.

Officials at St. Joseph have refused to admit wrongdoing.

"Had there been a way to save both the mother and the fetus, we would have done it," the hospital said in a statement. "We are convinced there was not. We would do the same thing again."

St. Joseph's, which was founded by Sisters of Mercy in 1895, said it "will continue to operate in the Catholic tradition," but will obey Olmsted's directives about Mass and Communion wafers.

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Jeany
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01:05 AM on 02/14/2011
I thank my parents every day that they chose not to raise their children in the Catholic Church. The organization is deeply misogynous, serving the power of men. Priests are loathsome.
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ChicagoBob
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01:17 AM on 01/03/2011
"St. Joseph's can no longer call itself "Catholic," celebrate Mass on its premises, or keep consecrated Communion wafers in its chapel."

To paraphrase a great man...
Free at last. free at last. Thank God almighty they're free at last.

Did St. Joe's lose any funding from the church?
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wvuweirton
07:38 AM on 01/01/2011
As a Catholic in his 60's, I thought I would become more religious as I come closer to the end of my life on Earth...

But, the opposite is true.... the Catholic church, like most other religions, are run by old men who are total hypocrites...

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SEES EVERYTHING EITHER 'BLACK OR WHITE,' UNLESS THEIR THE ONES WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN THE SCANDAL...

A thousand years of burning and killing of nonbelievers, sex scandals, money scandals, backing the rich and powerful instead of helping the poor and weak... SURE, every Sunday, the church asks its members for money to help the poor, yet the riches it controls are never sold and spent on the poor...

THE CHURCH TAKES A HARD LINE ON EVERYONE BUT ITSELF....
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insider9909
They sold us for 30 pieces of silver.
11:53 AM on 01/01/2011
The same has happened to me. The christian church, in both its protestant and catholic varieties, has so abandoned the actual teachings of Christ that He would scarecely recognize anything that calls itself a church were he to return back to earth today.

Instead of selflessness, sacrifice, care for the poor, sick, and hungry, the church has become a haven for con-artists, crass materialism, political neo-conservatism, greed, and violence. Instead of the teachings of the prince of peace, we have engaged in imperialistic war in all corners of the globe for the sake of acquisition of wealth and power and control of natural resources. Instead of standing publically in the open square of government and condemning leaders and corporations for the continued pillaging of civil rights and freedom, the church has become co-equal partners with these purveyors or evil. Instead of selling all of our possessions to give to the poor, we are taught that GREED IS GOOD.

My faith in God has been severely shaken to the point that I now question my entire belief system from front to back.
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Larry Motuz
Lawless markets lead ill-gotten gains.
12:39 PM on 01/22/2011
Thank you for this. God, as described by the Church, is not the G*d of my experience nor that of Christ's.
12:11 PM on 01/02/2011
I have been following this story about the heartlessness of the Bishop and have not found any signs of intelligent life in this discusion. The only reported fact that made any sense was in my local Catholic Register that quoted the Bishop saying he opposed the proceedure because it involved the "direct" killing of the fetus. Catholic teaching doers not prevent saving the life of the mother when her life is threatened. What matters is HOW it is done. The principal of "double effect " must be used and let me advise you this "double effect" is not some word game or lawyer like twisting of meaning of things. If you don't know what " double effect" means then you have no business in this matter. I just hope someone comes out with all the facts so the Church gets a fair shake.
07:36 PM on 01/03/2011
Bibbo, there are many articles on line from multiple sources about this subject- I suggest you do some research of your own so that you can intelligently comment on this matter.The Bishop objected to the 11 week embryo being aborted so that the mother could live. She was so near death that there was no time to move her to an OR within St. Joseph's. I am not Catholic so frankly I am horrified at the barbaric Catholic ''law'' that would let both a mother and embryo die rather than directly abort the embryo.I consider therapeutic abortion a medical procedure,not a murder. And if the hospital had allowed this woman to die because of this backward medieval religious hoodoo, l would expect that the hospital would have been convicted of manslaughter. Fortunately, the hospital did the right thing.
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Olaugh
If you are sure, you've stopped listening.
05:03 PM on 12/31/2010
Is it just me or is it nigh on impossible to comment on this article?
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Olaugh
If you are sure, you've stopped listening.
08:25 PM on 12/31/2010
When prayer is as reliable as medicine, I will credit the opinions of bishops on medical procedures.
ladyearth
Give birth to your dancing star
09:23 AM on 12/29/2010
The Catholics need to remove the Blessed Sacrament from churches where the priests have sexually molested children. Sexual molestation by priests kills healthy childrens' souls.
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Mychaeltodd Robinson
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03:33 PM on 12/28/2010
The Catholic church stays in hot water, go clean yourself off.
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AZreb
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09:40 PM on 12/27/2010
The Catholic diocese did not fund St. Jospeph's hospital. The hospital will continue its work with out the masses said in its chapel or consecrated wafers.

Bishop Olmsted was so very wrong in his message - if the hospital had tried to save both mother and fetus, both would have died. This young mother has four children at home - should they have been left without a mother at the order of a man who has no medical training? A man who has no idea of what it takes to raise children?

Ridiculous - and bravo to St. Jospeph's Hospital.
11:53 AM on 12/30/2010
-The Catholic diocese did not fund St. Jospeph's (sic) hospital.-

Where do you think they got the funding?
11:44 PM on 12/30/2010
If you bothered to do a little research, you would discover that funding comes from a number of places, including the state. But not, as AZreb said, from the diocese. The hospital is losing it's "official" affiliation with the church and the right to have RC masses. They are gaining freedom from Olmsted. So it's actually a net gain when it's all said and done.
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Dbos
Single payer universal health insurance agent
08:32 PM on 12/31/2010
Grants and gifts Its one of the top hospitals in the country for certain things
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Donns
02:54 PM on 12/27/2010
So losing their "Catholic" status is bad how? I assume they didn't parctice Voodoo or any other mumbo jumbo so what have they lost?
10:28 AM on 12/27/2010
Keep the church and all religion OUT of hospitals.

If YOU want a priest or rabbi there, then special-order it or bring your own.
11:46 AM on 12/30/2010
It's not a public hospital - it's specifically a Catholic hospital - if you don't want the baggage that brings - go to a secular hospital - not a Catholic one.

I'm an atheist - but my daughter was born in a Catholic hospital (my OB practiced there), after I'd spent a week in pre-term labor in a Jewish hospital (only high risk OB place that had room for us). My son was born in a secular hospital.
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bigmacha
Truth through research.
01:13 PM on 12/26/2010
Perhaps sprinkling holy water is an effective medical treatment - it works to repel vampires. Thus I can see the efficacy of having "wafers" on hand and the need for adhering to the archaic and anti-life principles of the Church.
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Eric Mann
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06:14 PM on 12/25/2010
GO THEM!!!
12:37 PM on 12/25/2010
Ok Catholics in Phoenix, hit this bishop where it hurts. Stop donating money to the Catholic Church and donate to St. Joseph's Hospital. Remember Cardinal Law in Boston. People withholding donations and the Church had to cave in and he resigned!
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Bloodhound41
09:24 PM on 12/24/2010
Gee, instead of Big Brother we have Big Bishop. Congratulations St. Josephs for doing the right thing. It's too bad one dogma blind individual has the power to tell a major health care group who they can save and who they can't but they made their decision based on medical need not religious belief.
12:46 PM on 12/24/2010
Are you Catholics embarrassed YET ?
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Halsey
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11:46 AM on 12/24/2010
I don't like the idea of abortion; but it is a personal choice for a woman. I don't understand why there is even an issue when the mother faces death if she continues to carry a fetus that will also die. To me, it displays a total disconnect between doctrine and real human life.

On a personal level, I know I must not get horribled injured near a Catholic Hospital as I have my DNR; I choose to die rather than live in pain. That is MY choice; not some bishop's.
11:17 PM on 12/24/2010
I think there is something terribly wrong on how this story is being reported. Catholic teaching DOES NOT usually prohibit saving the life of the mother. The principal of the "double effect" permits allowing fetal death if the intent is to save the mother.This is not some slight of hand or playing with language but it is a logical application of catholic medical ethics to serve and protect life.Please someone who knows the facts...speak up and don't let Catholic teaching get the bums rush by an unsympathetic( openly hostile) media as appears to be the case in this story. No we don't sentence mothers to death because they have an unviable fetus. We need the whole truth on this story.
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nikanj
free the fnords
02:48 PM on 12/25/2010
'principle'

And the whole 'double effect' dogma is doublespeak.

Things are what they are, inextricably interconnected.
'Double effect' is basically 'how many ethical interpretations
of (fill in the blank) issue can dance on the head of a pin' ?

And who decides what is 'good' and what is 'evil' ?
Implicit in this dogma is the assumption that life is 'good'
and death is 'evil'. That is not always the case, by any means.
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Eric Mann
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06:14 PM on 12/25/2010
Unsympathetic media?!?! It is the Bishop himself who is ignoring the guideline you cite by condemning (and some would say damning) the hospital for following it. If you don't do this, then tell the Bishop that. It seems that he begs to disagree.
10:27 AM on 12/27/2010
Doctrine has NOTHING to do with reality and EVERYTHING to do with controlling the blind, sheep-like masses.