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SUZANNE GAMBOA   12/26/10 11:05 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The end of the year means a turnover of House control from Democratic to Republican and, with it, Congress' approach to immigration.

In a matter of weeks, Congress will go from trying to help young, illegal immigrants become legal to debating whether children born to parents who are in the country illegally should continue to enjoy automatic U.S. citizenship.

Such a hardened approach – and the rhetoric certain to accompany it – should resonate with the GOP faithful who helped swing the House in Republicans' favor. But it also could further hurt the GOP in its endeavor to grab a large enough share of the growing Latino vote to win the White House and the Senate majority in 2012.

Legislation to test interpretations of the 14th Amendment as granting citizenship to children of illegal immigrants will emerge early next session. That is likely to be followed by attempts to force employers to use a still-developing web system, dubbed E-Verify, to check that all of their employees are in the U.S. legally.

There could be proposed curbs on federal spending in cities that don't do enough to identify people who are in the country illegally and attempts to reduce the numbers of legal immigrants. Democrats ended the year failing for a second time to win passage of the Dream Act, which would have given hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants a chance at legal status.

House Republicans will try to fill the immigration reform vacuum left by Democrats with legislation designed to send illegal immigrants packing and deter others from trying to come to the U.S.

Democrats, who will still control the Senate, will be playing defense against harsh immigration enforcement measures, mindful of their need to keep on good footing with Hispanic voters. But a slimmer majority and an eye on 2012 may prevent Senate Democrats from bringing to the floor any sweeping immigration bill, or even a limited one that hints at providing legal status to people in the country illegally.

President Barack Obama could be a wild card.

He'll have at his disposal his veto power should a bill denying citizenship to children of illegal immigrants make it to his desk. But Obama also has made cracking down on employers a key part of his administration's immigration enforcement tactics.

Hispanic voters and their allies will look for Obama to broker a deal on immigration as he did on tax cuts and health care. After the Dream Act failed in the Senate this month, Obama said his administration would not give up on the measure. "At a minimum we should be able to get Dream done. So I'm going to go back at it," he said.

The president has taken heavy hits in Spanish-language and ethnic media for failing to keep his promise to address immigration promptly and taking it off the agenda last summer. His administration's continued deportations of immigrants – a record 393,000 in the 2010 fiscal year – have also made tenuous his relationship with Hispanic voters.

John Morton, who oversees Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in a recent conference call that there are no plans to change the agency's enforcement tactics, which are focused on immigrants who commit crimes but also have led to detaining and deporting many immigrants who have not committed crimes.

The agency also will continue to expand Secure Communities, the program that allows immigration officials to check fingerprints of all people booked into jail to see if they are in the country illegally. Both illegal immigrants and residents can end up being deported under the program, which the Homeland Security Department hopes to expand nationwide by 2013.

Many of those attending a recent gathering of conservative Hispanics in Washington warned that another round of tough laws surrounded by ugly anti-immigrant discussions could doom the GOP's 2012 chances.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a possible 2012 candidate, cited Meg Whitman's failed gubernatorial bid in California despite her high spending. When 22 percent of the electorate is Latino, candidates can't win without a vigorous presence in the Hispanic community and a "message that is understandable and involves respect," Gingrich said. Even so, Gingrich was unwilling to call on his fellow Republican senators to drop their opposition to the Dream Act, saying the legislation should not have been considered without giving lawmakers a chance to amend it.

The next Congress will be populated with many newcomers elected on a platform of tougher immigration enforcement. They'll have ready ears in Republican Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, who will chair the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Steve King of Iowa, who is expected to chair the committee's immigration subcommittee.

That's a recipe for more measures aimed at immigration enforcement, including requiring businesses to use E-Verify rather than eyeballing paper documents to check workers' citizenship and legal residency status.

"I've already told the business community it's going to happen," said Beto Cardenas, executive counsel to Americans for Immigration Reform, a coalition of business leaders who support overhauling immigration laws. Changes to immigration law contained in appropriations and authorization bills, where immigration enforcement hawks are likely to tuck some measures, would also be tough to reject.

But more controversial measures such as attempts to deny citizenship to children of people who are in the U.S. without permission could be tempered by GOP leaders aware of the need to curry more favor with Hispanic voters.

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WASHINGTON — The end of the year means a turnover of House control from Democratic to Republican and, with it, Congress' approach to immigration. In a matter of weeks, Congress will go from try...
WASHINGTON — The end of the year means a turnover of House control from Democratic to Republican and, with it, Congress' approach to immigration. In a matter of weeks, Congress will go from try...
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frixx
06:03 PM on 12/28/2010
8-10 people spotted fleeing small boat  

NEWPORT BEACH – About eight to 10 people were seen running from a boat this morning as it made its way to shore along Crystal Cove, authorities said.
Police searched for the passengers of the small craft and sheriff's deputies searched the area with the help of a helicopter, but the passengers aboard have not been found, said Lt. Jeff Brouwer of the Newport Beach Police Department.

The small open boat, which is believed to be carrying people entering the country illegally, was found at about 7 a.m. Tuesday morning, officials said.
"It looks like it had been there for some time," Brouwer said.
Officers with the Newport Beach Police Department found several life jackets and wet clothes strewn about along the sand, he said.
"Looks like some people scattered in different directions," he said.
The Orange County Sheriff's Department was asked to assist by searching the area with their helicopter, said Lt. Jim England of the Orange County Sheriff's Department. Officials also sent their Harbor Patrol to search the waters around the boat.
A witness who stopped in the area told officers he saw eight to 10 people running from the boat in different directions, Brouwer said.

from: http://www.ocregister.com/news/boat-281874-people-beach.html

By land, by air, by sea. This is an invasion.

We do not know who they were or where they went. This is not a raci.al issue, they could have been middle eastern or Chinese. We may never know.
04:08 PM on 12/28/2010
Just let them all in... its cool there with me!
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cdecisneros
my micro bio is empty because I went to the micro
01:02 PM on 12/28/2010
Will this hard line include the people who keep giving them jobs?
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
06:53 AM on 01/03/2011
It should.
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cdecisneros
my micro bio is empty because I went to the micro
10:58 AM on 01/03/2011
But will it? All I ever hear is people critizing the illegals(and they should) for coming here and taking American Jobs but if nobody does anything about the people who hire them they will just keep coming.
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thereisonlyoneparty
more amazing than you
03:35 PM on 01/12/2011
It is not a business owner's job to enforce border policy.  Even with these "e-verify" systems (which are basically useless) the enforcement of immigration policy is up to the government.

Besides employers should seek out to hire those who can contribute the most to the company based on the resources invested in them.
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theerrantsoul
11:26 AM on 12/28/2010
From a plaque on one of America's greatest monuments, the Statue of Liberty: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Let's not forget that.
08:03 PM on 12/28/2010
You forget that ALL of the immigrants who saw that statue when they came were LEGAL immigrants! Not only that, but a good number of them were thrown back on board the ship since the US would NOT admit them for any number of reasons. Try learning some history.
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theerrantsoul
10:28 AM on 12/29/2010
I forget nothing.  Our nation has oppressed many people, yes - rather than allow this to justify future injustices, I'd rather learn from our mistakes.
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
06:47 AM on 01/03/2011
Would be a nice sentiment if-we didnt have to pay for them,we are broke,what dont u understand about that?? We are in dire straights here,cannot afford it,what of the American people? What of the homeless here? Does your heart go out to them also,or is it just illegals that u care about? Answer me this,who is going to pay for all the court cost for the illegals because,they want to be set free,on the basis that they "didnt understand" what pleading guilty meant.So,are these people the "tired and the weak"? They are in prison,dont think they fit your description,neither does muslims coming into our country,to do us harm,would be great if all these illegals were just nice friendly good ole folks but,not even you can say that is true.
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theerrantsoul
10:49 AM on 01/03/2011
We just passed useless tax cuts for the wealthy which will cost our nation $120 billion over two years.  I reject the supposition that we do not have enough money to do more - because if that is the case, it is only because our own skewed priorities have left nothing for the common man, and we deserve the consequences of it, not those who need our help.  The right thing to do is always right, even when it is not easy or convenient, and I'm willing to pay more in taxes and tighten my belt if it means that more struggling parents (American or otherwise) have the means to feed their children.
 
Not sure what you've experienced, but the majority of illegal immigrants I've encountered have been "nice friendly good ole folks", marked more by their timidity than anything else.  Did you know that predominantly immigrant communities tend to have lower instances of violent crime?  How about the fact that approximately three-quarters of our illegal immigrant population pay taxes?  The SSA takes in around $9 billion each year from SS wage withholdings for invalid Social Security numbers, which can never be collected on by those who have submitted them - that's right, contributions by illegal immigrants are helping to pay for benefits for Americans.
 
My heart goes out to all those suffering under poverty.  That's part of why I'm so passionate about the issue of immigration - the impractical and often unenforceable nature of our laws creates an entire class of people with a different set of rights than most who live in this country.  I seek to level the playing field.  American citizens have access to things like food stamps, disability, unemployment insurance, and so forth.
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Arts4u
It's better than a reality show.
11:24 AM on 12/28/2010
This is one of the reasons why we must get illegal immigration under control... there are few new jobs being created in this country. American companies are creating more jobs elsewhere than here. Our workers must be protected... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/28/job-market-booming-overseas_n_801839.html
charles77
Just the Facts Please
10:49 AM on 12/28/2010
"attempts to force employers to use a still-developing web system, dubbed E-Verify, to check that all of their employees are in the U.S. legally."

Forceing employers to use E-Verify is the first step in any "reform", but is not a "still-developing web system", it has been in use for years and works.

Why are’t employers arrested for hiring illegal workers?

Here is the truth. It Has a big fat LOOPHOLE! The employer nationwide does not have to verify an employee with E-Verify, and if he does not do so, he can’t be prosecuted for “knowingly” enploying an illegal.

To be legal an employer only has to request a Social Security card, photocopy it and keep it in the employees file. Fake SS cards are very easy to get. If the employer does not run it thru E-Verify, there is no way to tell if it is fake. So as long as the employer has a SS card photocopy for the employee on file, he cannot be prosecuted.

Social Security Administration sends each employer a “no match” letter at the end of the year if the Name on the card dose not match the number, BUT REQUIRES NO ACTION from the employer to correct it!

That is the truth, read our own governments website:
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/noMatchNotices.htm

Making E-Verify mandatory and enforcing Social Security Administration no match letters would solve the problem!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
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thereisonlyoneparty
more amazing than you
03:38 PM on 01/12/2011
E-verify systems do not work.  They cannot be accurate enough to eliminate all false positives and false negatives.  The false negatives are not a big problem, but the false positives are.  Even with a 1% false positive rate (which is better than can be expected) there would be a lot of people who are inconvenienced when they attempt to gain employment.

Immigration should be open.  Citizenship should be restricted (jus sanguinis), but all people should have the ability to enter the US and work within its borders.

Nationalism is not going to solve immigration problems.
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SPQR1052
08:56 AM on 12/28/2010
Personally if you don't have Native American blood you don't belong here. 

Additionally  if you are a minority, which I am, supporting the xenophobia  and ignorant rants about Latinos  is counterproductive because our ancestors have been there and next these zealots will openly  discriminate against us.

Having a father who is African American and CROW  and a other who's father is Italian and her mom French  I could not under any circumstances condone the bigotry displayed here in these comments.

Having ancestors as slaves and Native Americans this Latino issue is a hot button and volatile cocktail for me. 

In conclusion look no further than the disrespect these same commenters  engage in their utter disrespect  for the president -- check their archives and you can come to one correlation and common theme  FEAR OF ALL THINGS DIFFERENT. If It ain't W A S P it ain't right in their mentalities. 

Nope I wil have none of that. 

America is a nation founded by  carperbaggers kicked out of every decent European country for whatever reasons, land grabbing, exploitation seeking opportunist.   With a few who sought adventure , the rest not so much.
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SPQR1052
08:59 AM on 12/28/2010
Correction:

"....CROW  and  a MOTHER (my mom) who's father is Italian and ......
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weebils
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11:20 AM on 12/28/2010
First of all your Native American bloodline is not unique in America. Your mixed ancestry is also not unique so big deal.  If you knew history then you would know that the Latinos that you praise so much were actually some of the biggest exploiters and enslavers in the world. They were the ones who introduced the concept of slavery being tied to race. Latinos were the ones who introduced the concept of racial purity to North America and it is still a big issue in Latino countries. It is one reason why so many German war criminals  fled to their countries after WWII. So I find their introduction of racism into the discussion of illegal immigration to be very hypocritical. Just take a look at how countries like Mexico treat dark skinned people from the Dominican Republic or Haiti who try to live and work in their country. In fact they  are even hostile to black people from Belize. On top of  it most Latinos here illegally will be the first ones to tell you they are white.

In my past posts I have also talked about how in the Northeast the use of illegal workers of all races is an issue. We have Eastern Europeans, Asians, Africans, and people from the Caribbean who are all here working illegally. It is wrong no matter what the color. This is an issue about labor and undercutting the poorest Americans who are losing jobs to cheap illegal labor and outsourcing. Trying  to frame it as a discussion about anything else just means you are a corporate tool helping to destroy  American labor.

For your  information I am a supporter of President Obama and it is evident in my  past posts and the names I have been called for supporting him. So another one of your theories is wrong.
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frankg3400
01:33 PM on 12/28/2010
Heck, you don't even have to look at how Mexicans treat others from those countries, just look how they treat their real indigenous citizens who have little Spanish blood and who are darker skinned. The illegal Mexicans coming here claiming they are indigenous, yet treat the most closely related indigenous like crap. They are the "gringos" of Mexico but are the first to cry racism.
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Captain Ron
Sí, se puede!
03:26 AM on 12/29/2010
Intelligent, refreshing, and smackdown.
02:34 AM on 12/28/2010
Remember what happended to Rome when they let in too many Germans!!!?
01:05 AM on 12/28/2010
Straight from Pew Hispanic 2005 Report

Characteristics of Unauthorized
• Who Are They?
-- Mainly in Families
-- Relatively Young
-- Almost All Work

• What Are They Like?
-- Low Education
-- Low Income
-- High Poverty
-- Lack of Insurance

No wonder the Democrats pushed Health Care Reform....sickening!
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negraloca
What the hell is a micro-bio?
07:33 AM on 12/28/2010
Or, Democrats might want health care reform for the millions of Americans who don't have access to adequate health care. You are ill.
12:37 AM on 12/28/2010
• In 2009, 59% of unauthorized immigrants resided in California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois and New Jersey. However, the share living in those states has declined from 80% in 1990, as unauthorized immigrants have dispersed to new settlement areas.
• Nearly half of unauthorized immigrants living in the country in 2009—47%, or 5.2 million people—arrived in 2000 or later.
• The number of male unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007 at 6.3 million and declined to 5.8 million in 2009. The number of female unauthorized immigrants, 4.2 million in 2009, is roughly the same as it was in 2007.
• The number of children who are unauthorized, 1.1 million in 2009, declined slightly over the decade. By contrast, the population of U.S.-born children with at least one unauthorized parent nearly doubled from 2000 to 2009, when they numbered 4 million.
• There were 7.8 million unauthorized immigrants in the labor force in 2009, or 5.1% of the total. The size of the unauthorized labor force peaked in 2007 and declined in both 2008 and 2009. There were 7 million unauthorized immigrants employed in March 2009.
• States with the largest shares of immigrants in the labor force are Nevada (9.4%), California (9.3%), Texas (8.7%) and New Jersey (8.7%).
• The unemployment rate for unauthorized i
mmigrants of all ages in March 2009 was higher than that of U.S.-born workers or legal immigrants—10.4%, 9.2% and 9.1%, respectively.

http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/126.pdf
12:36 AM on 12/28/2010
Unauthorized immigrants accounted for 28% of the nation’s foreign-born population in 2009, a decline from 31% in 2007.
• Mexico accounted for 60% of unauthorized immigrants in 2009, or 6.7 million people. Other Latin American nations accounted for 20% of the total, or 2.2 million people. South and East Asia accounted for 11% of the total, or 1.2 million people.

http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/126.pdf
11:20 PM on 12/27/2010
My answer is that we, the legal citizens of the US, DEMAND that Democrats and Republicans alike, solve our immigration problem. The solution has to benefit the US first. We can and should extend charity to others when we finally solve the MESS we are in. Our elected officials have put us in this terrible position. As far as I am concerned it is our system of government which is the most toxic and broken entity in the US.
11:14 PM on 12/27/2010
The first table shows the state of residence and % of LPR's. The 2nd table shows US bankrupt states in order of indebtedness. Not surprising the two lists look very similar.

California . . . . . . . 3,310,000 26.6
New York . . . . . . . 1,530,000 12.3
Texas . . . . . . . . . 1,220,000 9.8
Florida . . . . . . . . . 1,180,000 9.4
New Jersey . . . . . 560,000 4.5
Illinois . . . . . . . . . 540,000 4.3
Massachusetts . . 310,000 2.5
Virginia . . . . . . . . 260,000 2.1
Washington . . . . . 260,000 2.1
Arizona . . . . . . . . 230,000 1.9
Maryland . . . . . . . 230,000 1.8
Georgia . . . . . . . . 230,000 1.8
Pennsylvania . . . . 220,000 1.8
Michigan . . . . ......210,000 1.7

California $6,900
Michigan 3,900
New York 3,200
Penn. 3,000
Ohio 2,300
Illinois 2,200
N.C. 2,100
Indiana 1,700
New Jersey 1,700
Florida 1,600
Wisconsin 1,400
Texas 1,000
S.C. 886
Kentucky 795
Missouri 722
Connecticut 498
Minnesota 477
Georgia 416
Nevada 397
Mass. 387
Virginia 346

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/lpr_pe_2009.pdf

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/32-states-now-officially-bankrupt-378-billion-borrowed-treasury-fund-unemployment-ca-mi-ny-w
11:10 PM on 12/27/2010
Many have said our immigration system is broken. People cannot get into our country. To me, these figures say something completely different. There are legal ways to enter the USA.

From the Department of Homeland Security. Legal Permanent Residenct Population Information


Country of Birth
Mexico was the leading country of origin of the LPR population in 2009 (see Table 4). An estimated 3.3 million or 26 percent of LPRs came from Mexico. The next leading source country was the Philippines (0.6 million), followed by People’s Republic of China (0.5 million), India (0.5 million), and the Dominican Republic (0.4 million). Forty-two percent of LPRs in 2009 were born in one of these five countries. The 10 leading countries of origin, which also include Cuba, Canada, El Salvador, Vietnam, and the United Kingdom, represented 55 percent of the LPR population.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/lpr_pe_2009.pdf
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desidid
11:31 PM on 12/27/2010
Where are the African and Caribbean nations? This is my problem with the limited comprehensive reform being talked about on these boards and in Congress. It looks like our old immigration policy with the exception of allowing Asians into the country.
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weebils
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12:31 AM on 12/28/2010
"There are legal ways to enter the USA."

Exactly
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02:22 AM on 12/28/2010
Hi weebils,

I here ya, you have been working this issue with your posts, I have read. Your approach works best for this nation.

I put more time in on the religion section, where people are developing spiritual growth. We give "to Gov. that which they are entitled and to God which God is entitled". The rules of the nation are what is best nationally for its citizens, with rationallity in facts and figures and numbers.

Many people as they draw closer to God; which is a Spirit, follow Love and it goes out to everyone reguardless of nationality. A fellow human being in our midst who needs help is a test of ones heart. There is indeed a suffering or loss when a choice is made to give to those in need. On an individual basis, this generosity grows sympathy, a Loving neighbor as self. We all have a limited life span and will return to God some day leaving all this behind.
09:17 PM on 12/27/2010
Why aren't employers who hire illegal immigrants punished? Hefty fines would stop them from hiring.There is a mechanism for verifying the status of any prospective employee.Any business owner who complains that they have no time to do this should not be in business. The new UK government is fining employers hefty sums and have slowly stepped up enforcement.

Fear of swift and heavy punishment is the only way to stop these people from hiring illegal immigrants. This will also stop the movement of such people into the country. Then the question of legalization of people already here can be addressed. Politicians who take money from businesses who want to profit from cheap labor should be exposed and taken to task.

However nothing is going to happen as politicians in our country are as corrupt as the ones in Nigeria,Pakistan,India or Mexico.
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Viper1st
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09:22 PM on 12/27/2010
Because the U.S. Gov't does not enforce existing Federal Immigration Laws
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10:37 PM on 12/27/2010
Everyone except the politicians agrees with you but neither Bush nor Obama has shown interest in stopping and punishing the employers! I agree that High fines and jail terms would be enough to keep them straight.