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Romney's Team Refines Its Health Care Pitch, Defense

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First Posted: 12/27/10 04:42 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

A Virginia judge's ruling earlier this month that a key provision of President Barack Obama's health care law is unconstitutional was hailed as a major breakthrough for all segments of the Republican Party save, perhaps, one.

Former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.), whose own successful dalliance with health care reform in Massachusetts is cited as an intellectual model for Obamacare, stands to gain little from this specific policy topic being at the center of political discourse.

At least that's how the conventional wisdom goes. And in the wake of Judge Henry E. Hudson's decision, there was, as expected, another wave of debate over Romney's own role in championing the individual mandate for insurance coverage -- the provision that was ruled unconstitutional.

Whether this pattern persists through the 2012 elections (should Romney run) depends on the whims of legal processes and the vindictiveness of the rest of the Republican presidential field. Romney, after all, was not the first conservative to champion an individual mandate. The Heritage Foundation did so as well. But the former governor tends to get the preponderance of attention when the conversation turns in that direction.

As the scrutiny mounts, Romney has begun to fine-tune his pitch for why his own plan made for sound policy, but Obama's amounted to an "unconstitutional power grab by Washington," as aide Eric Fehrnstrom put it.

For starters, team Romney has begun arguing that the better indication of his policy preference would be the 2008 campaign's white paper, not the Massachusetts model. The former, as Fehrnstrom noted in a pre-Christmas exchange with the Huffington Post, is a reflection of what Romney would do nationally -- a "federalist approach to health care reform." It doesn't have an individual mandate but, rather, encourages states to deregulate their insurance markets.

"Mitt said repeatedly in the 2008 campaign that his plan was not designed for the nation as a whole," said Fehrnstrom. "He said states may want to copy parts of it, and perhaps improve on its features, but he was very explicit in saying the federal government should not impose a one-size-fits-all plan on the entire nation."

Whether that frees Romney from the burdens of his own health care law is another story. The former governor has been unapologetic about the legislation he passed, but always with the caveat that his was a state-tailored solution. There was, however, a time-period when he seemingly championed the plan as a template for the nation as a whole.

"I'm proud of what we've done," Romney said during a speech in Baltimore in February 2007. "If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation."

Here too, Romney's team has refined, or at least, sharpened its message. The former governor, they argue, never preached an approach in which the national government brought the Massachusetts model to each and every state. Rather, he believed, as Fehrnstrom says, that other states should have the chance to "copy" the model "or improve upon its features." On this, even critics of Romneycare concede the point.

"I don't recall him or he ever advocating it as a federal model," said Michael Tanner, a health care policy expert at the Cato Foundation who once predicted that Romneycare would be a "flop." "I don't know if he said it shouldn't be. He talked bout it being a model for the nation but I don't know if he was implying that the federal government should do it."

And yet, for all the line drawing and needle threading with respect to federalist versus national approaches, the fact remains that when Romney had a chance to write the health care script, he chose an individual mandate. There may be legal differences between a state and the federal government forcing people to buy insurance. But the political distinctions are hardly that clear. And while, empirically, the individual mandate worked in Massachusetts -- reducing the percentage of uninsured down to three -- critics will likely never excuse what they see as its philosophical flaws.

"I actually wrote a paper at the time on the individual mandate and I said the problem for the individual mandate is it removes the only market mechanism people had against the providers, which is refusal to buy their product," said Tanner.

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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
ThatsTheTheWayItIs 10:11 AM on 12/28/2010
The mandate made little difference in MA, most already had insurance, check the chart. MA is a rich state, 2nd highest income behind CT, not comparable to most states. And we already had rules against "pre-existing conditions", long before Romney's bill.

Romney's biggest problem is being governor of MA, how do you explain that to conservatives? They see a Northern liberal elite, a RINO. Plus doesn't  Read More...
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mblakney
02:28 PM on 12/29/2010
Instead of doing the research and fact checking themselves, Obama haters would rather take the word of the insurance lobby or Obama’s political pundits whose job to berate Obama and his administration at any cost for political gain and to get the uninformed to vote against their own best interest. The truth is that there are many, many industrialize nations that have a single payer or two-tier healthcare systems that work very well, and have had them for several decades (The World Health Organization). Sure we have some of the best doctors and medical research facilities in the world but our system sucks hind tit because our system is for profit and there are too many sharks at the top of the food chain. That’s what drives up our health care cost. Everybody want to get wealthy from an industry that clearly shouldn’t be for profit.
Obama haters clearly suffer from acute Obama Insomnia and normality bias brought on by repetitive sound bites from Faux News and conservative “mic flies” like Rump Limpburger, Bull O'Really, and Vanity Hannity .
The Treatment: A change in media venue, large injections of Kool-Aid and massive doses of Shut –The – Hell – Up.
08:19 AM on 12/29/2010
I'm an American living in Japan.
I never had health care until I came here. And Japanese people really don't understand this whole debate in America.

Anyway...Japan health care is great!
I pay about $150/month for myself, my wife and my kid. Every time we go to the hospital or dentist it costs about $3. If we need some pills, it costs about $3.

Works great!
08:22 AM on 12/29/2010
...and the doctors are highly skilled--some of the best in the world. And they are filthy rich.
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
09:27 AM on 12/29/2010
Outstanding!
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Bostontru2u
Keep on Moving...The Left Way.
05:38 AM on 12/29/2010
I got scrubbed again. Can't tell the truth about Romney here.
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Allen Reed Jensen
05:46 PM on 12/28/2010
You know what's funny, Romney actually has experience working with hospitals and doctors and helping cut costs and make coverage more affordable. His experience is chronicled within his newest book. What was Obama's previous private sector work? Community organizing, working with unions, and defending the actions of Acorn. Funny how so many unions are submitting waivers for the new health care law not to apply for them, that and SEIU, Obama's biggest backer, has recently dropped coverage on hundreds of their NY and other employees.
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shocktreatment
Just barely standing it
08:28 PM on 12/28/2010
You know what's really funny? Where's Romney? Why backfilling and sputtering while denying what were once among his so-called core beliefs.

Where's Obama? President of the United States.
11:37 PM on 12/28/2010
"Where's Obama? President of the United States. "
A mistake that many of his backers won't repeat.
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
06:54 AM on 12/29/2010
And what got Obama the presidency?

Advocating for a very different system.

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=acc6Wn_BW­lk
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11:48 PM on 12/28/2010
No... You know what's really funny? What Romney wears under his pants:

http://blogs.ballyfermot.ie/darrens/files/2009/01/garment.jpg
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jackbutler5555
05:32 PM on 12/28/2010
When someone shows up at the hospital in need of emergency care, he will be treated.  If he doesn't have health insurance or  hasn't put aside money to pay for the care, we will foot the bill. 

Mandatory health insurance  puts the onus on him -- where it belongs.  All that we're requiring is that those -- who can afford the insurance -- get it.

What could possibly be wrong with that?
11:37 PM on 12/28/2010
Because you don't have the authority.
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jackbutler5555
07:44 AM on 12/29/2010
We shall see.
03:41 PM on 12/28/2010
"For starters, team Romney has begun arguing that the better indication of his policy preference would be the 2008 campaign's white paper, not the Massachusetts model."

Translation: Do as I say, not as I do. I'm a hypocrite, but that's okay as long as I get the votes I want.

"It doesn't have an individual mandate but, rather, encourages states to deregulate their insurance markets."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...and de-regulation of an industry whose income is generated primarily by denying claims is SUCH a great idea!
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malwoden
common scold
05:39 PM on 12/28/2010
Spot on, particularly your last paragraph.
03:18 PM on 12/28/2010
Although you maybe able to say "But the political distinctions are hardly that clear. And while, empirically, the individual mandate worked in Massachusetts -- reducing the percentage of uninsured down to three -- critics will likely never excuse what they see as its philosophical flaws"

The Massachusetts Healthcare plan is a failure. See artical below. And from a personal percpective my premium this year went up 20%.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704324304575306861120760580.html

Lets ask one simple question. What industry would not want to see an increase in market dollars in the billions per year? And who has most of their money in that industry? Wake up people you are being made guilty (help those that do not have health care) so they can take your hard earned dollars once again.

Also, I do not believe that the Mass Healthcare law was Romneys original plan but something that was put together by the Democratic run legislature and signed by Romney.
02:34 PM on 12/28/2010
If you are STILL against health care reform you are;

- easily duped by disinforma­­­­tion and fearmonger­­­­ing
-being paid by some lobbyist and owe your soul to them as long as you are voted back in
-are a member of the republican party and vote according to what R.ush L.imbaugh or Karl .Ro.ve tells you to
-are white and cannot be for ANYTHING that a black man is (even if he is right)
-are rich and just don't care
-HAVE insurance paid for you and just don't care
-HAVE never been sick and just don't care or think about it
-don't believe the mound of truth in statistics that the system is broken
-don't care that YOU pay 1000 dollars for everybody that uses emergency rooms without insurance
-don't care if people suffer with the worry of paying health bills or that they lose everything they have along with their families( inclusive of innocent children )
-don't care that 62% of personal bankruptci­­­­es are related to medical bills
.don't care that single payer is the best and most efficient system implemente­­­­d in most other western
democracie­­­­s
-don't care that people may d1e as a result from one or all of the above..

HOW is that American ? or even human -- ?

regards,
F_unky :)
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Billy Dinkins
Dare to THINK for YOURSELF!
03:34 PM on 12/28/2010
Or you could be against a FEDERAL health care bill for the same reason I am. Because it is unconstitutional being it is not a power specifically granted to it by the constitution. I have no problem with each state looking at what would work best for their own state and coming up with a plan of action because the constitution allows them to. I'm not thrilled about a mandate but as long as it has a quality and price similar to what they could get from BCBS or someone like that and people who can't afford it are helped with some kind of credit then I could deal with it. What I'm absolutely not going to stand for is handing over a HUGE amount of power to a Federal Government whose mantra is "Gimme an inch and I'll take a lightyear".
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malwoden
common scold
05:43 PM on 12/28/2010
And if SCOTUS holds that the power is granted by the Constitution to the Federal Goverment, how will you deal with that?
08:33 AM on 12/29/2010
PSST!!
Hey. It is in the constitution:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Did you see that part about general welfare? Healthcare may fall into that.

That said, I also do not want to be forced to buy insurance from unscrupulous insurance companies who gouge their customers and will gouge the American tax payer.

We need a public option at least--single payer at best.
03:42 PM on 12/28/2010
Yes, the system may be broke but the skyrocketing cost of medical care happened upon the creation of Medicare. Medical cost were very stable until Medicare was inacted.

I have insurance but I still worry about healthcare bills. I worry that the new laws have already increased my premiums by 20%.

Prove a single payer plan is working anywhere? They are going bankrupt.

Do you believe the most effecient costing for anything is to utilize a middle man? Oh, if it benefits you it is OK.

This is how the lefty politicians get your money by making you feel guilty when in fact they are making money off of your guilt. If we went back to individual contracts with doctors where each individual was in charge of their cost of medical healthcare we would be in more control.

Example: I just went to the hospital for a couple of days. Although my insurance (Which I pay thousands of $$$ for annually) covers a portion I still have additinal costs. Now the bills that are coming from the hospital are not a simple itemized bill they send individual bills for every little thing. I had a bill for ~$15 for administering a pill. How much did it cost to just send me that bill instead of including it in one bill for the stay? And the cost will get worse with an additional government oversite commitees.

If you like Govt run healthcare move. ;-)
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
06:58 AM on 12/29/2010
"Prove a single payer plan is working anywhere? They are going bankrupt."

http://blog.heritage.org/?p=30406
08:13 AM on 12/29/2010
Oh let me prove it!
I live in Japan. It is great!
I pay about $150/month for myself, my wife and my kid. Every time we go to the hospital or dentist it costs about $3.

Works great!
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
02:34 PM on 12/28/2010
The individual mandate worked for the Insurers, but the promised rate increase attenuation somehow didn't happen.

I don't see this as a problem for Romney, Obama offeres Romney's ideas but doesn't have Romney's history of managerial success
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
02:18 PM on 12/28/2010
Show what you're made of, Mr Romney. Shake the losers off early and get moving. You're the only one the President considers dangerous so grab onto the health care issue - make it yours - and you're on your way. Scary? You bet! Chance of success? A littles better than fifty-fifty. Without it? No chance at all.
02:06 PM on 12/28/2010
this will be Romney's achilles heel which is a shame because his business expertise would benefit the nation. maybe he's a cabinet sec.
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proudtohaveserved
02:24 PM on 12/28/2010
they don't make cabinets at the white house
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Billy Dinkins
Dare to THINK for YOURSELF!
04:13 PM on 12/28/2010
No, just more enemies...
04:19 PM on 12/28/2010
nuts. have to figure out where else I can pay triple market price for an inferior product
01:49 PM on 12/28/2010
too chicken to admit he agrees.
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Not a big enough man to become president. He will be run by the Insani-TEA party...
02:07 PM on 12/28/2010
yea...he's never had community organizing experience...which, we find, is invaluable experience for a president for lowering unemployment and debt
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proudtohaveserved
02:29 PM on 12/28/2010
it took 22 years for this mess to happen, beginning with reagan and the bushes. It is going to take us at least 25 years to ge out of it. not including the surplus of 350 billion Clinton left us
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
02:30 PM on 12/28/2010
Our President was apparently too chicken to share his true views on public policy, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acc6Wn_BWlk

All the parties as they are today - Democrat and Republican/tea - advocate only for the big corporations.
04:04 PM on 12/28/2010
maybe he voted 'not present'
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
01:40 PM on 12/28/2010
By a republican judge. Ignoring that ruling on the grounds of ignoramous giganticus.
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proudtohaveserved
02:31 PM on 12/28/2010
is he from VA or FL?
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Billy Dinkins
Dare to THINK for YOURSELF!
03:52 PM on 12/28/2010
If a lesbian judge can rule on Prop 8 in California then surely a Republican can rule against that disastrous bill.
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White Horse Seer
ROMNEY RUBIO 2012
01:34 PM on 12/28/2010
At the end of the 2008 GOP primary the top conservative voices supported Romney
but it was to late.

Watch how they start chanting Romney Romney Romney from the get go this time.

Romney has never been a Muslim, by the way.
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
01:41 PM on 12/28/2010
But was he born in America? Or a State i like? Be ready to show his long form BC two hundred thousand times....a week.
02:10 PM on 12/28/2010
post a copy of O's, Skippy
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proudtohaveserved
02:31 PM on 12/28/2010
but he is mormon
01:27 PM on 12/28/2010
for some perspective:

http://dailycaller.com/