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Senate Dems Introduce Rules Reform Package: Keep Filibuster But Make It Old School

First Posted: 01/05/11 01:04 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

Senate Filibuster Reform

With Reporting By Ryan Grim

WASHINGTON -- The handful of Senate Democrats proposing to overhaul the upper chamber's rules and procedures released their roadmap Wednesday morning, but conspicuously missing from the package was an attempt to reduce the number of senators required to end a filibuster.

While the four-page resolution would change the way the Senate considers legislation and nominations, 41 determined members of the minority would still have the ability to block Senate action.

The package does, however, include a reform that would tilt the balance of power toward the majority: Senators must actually be speaking on the Senate floor in order to keep the filibuster alive. If objecting senators finish speaking, the filibuster would end and the blocked bill in question would move to a final vote.

The rules-reform package, introduced by Sens. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), is slated to be discussed on the floor later Wednesday. It is, as one aide put it, "the culmination of discussions going on for months and months and months."

In terms of its reach, the proposal is both logical and constrained. It calls for the elimination of secret holds on nominees and for reforms to the amendment process so that majority and minority leaders are allowed no more than three amendments that "have been timely filed ... and are germane to the matter being amended." The latter provision may seem like an effort to woo bipartisan support, but a top Republican aide said the GOP objects because it would limit the power that senators have traditionally had to introduce any amendment to any bill.

The reform package also would allow for a shorter, two-hour window for debating a motion to proceed to legislation, which would make it impossible to filibuster the motion to move to debate a bill. Should the minority party filibuster any bill, it would require that those doing the filibustering provide a reason for doing so.


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For those who argue that the filibuster should be ended entirely, or at least reduced from its 60-vote threshold, the package falls short. Democratic lawmakers had been debating making alterations to that provision for months now, but during negotiations with leadership their vision was pared back.

Members were reportedly concerned about the vote count. On Wednesday morning, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) proclaimed that the "last thing" the Senate needed to do "is start changing rules, with 51 votes and simple majority, and make the Senate a smaller version of the House."

Mainly, however, there was worry throughout the party that they could end up in the minority in the near future.

"I'm not in favor of getting rid of the filibuster," former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said on Wednesday morning during a breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor. "I do think there is an argument to be made for minority party having some say. The filibuster has been so badly abused though. And it gets abused cyclically that is the Democrats abused it, the Republicans were worse, Democrats came back and we were worse then they were. Now they are even worse."

Dean argued in favor of abolishing secret holds, and for some reform of the filibuster. "Whatever reforms they do will be positive," he added, but cautioned, "Republicans are right when they make the point that we might not like the results of [getting rid of the filibuster]."

This post was updated with additional reporting

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With Reporting By Ryan Grim WASHINGTON -- The handful of Senate Democrats proposing to overhaul the upper chamber's rules and procedures released their roadmap Wednesday morning, but conspicuously mi...
With Reporting By Ryan Grim WASHINGTON -- The handful of Senate Democrats proposing to overhaul the upper chamber's rules and procedures released their roadmap Wednesday morning, but conspicuously mi...
 
 
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09:47 AM on 01/07/2011
I am suspicious of any rule changes that are proposed by just one party within any of our government entities, let alone the Senate. If it was designed and developed in an open and bi-partisan manner, then I would be less skeptical of the merits within.
11:28 PM on 01/06/2011
Possibly this will actually help. Still, it's more falling short for the party formerly called Hope.
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castlerider
"A man's home is his castle"
02:40 PM on 01/06/2011
So when will they vote on this, already?

I've been anxious waiting to hear about the outcome.
02:31 PM on 01/06/2011
This looks like a good move. It will force real commitment on the part of the minority and not just an ability to block every vote, pro forma.
01:21 PM on 01/06/2011
Why did they not fix the filibuster problem? They love to be held hostage. Why are you worried about future minority? If you do a good job you will be in majority. In 2 years you can accomplish a lot in absence of filibuster. Also next time you will be running a presidential election and and you are likely to get more senators elected if you run a good campaign . It is your job to sell your ideas to the people and you ought to consider the 2012 as an opportunity to rebuild.
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Joseph Furtenbacher
No one you know...
08:54 AM on 01/06/2011
Hmm... Majority... An Exceptionally complex Term... Let's see what ol' Dictionary has to say...

1. More than half of a given number or group... No, They Think Not... 2. The number of jurors or voters... Hardly seems to Apply, given the Usual Suspects, er, Definitions... 3. The number of votes cast for a particular candidate, bill, etc., over and above the total number of remaining votes... Close, but I'm Afraid it Simply won't do...

Half a Moe - this one looks Promising: 4. The party or group having the most power.

Nailed it! Anyone have any other Jobs they want Done (In) while I've got my Forty Pound Sledgehammer handy? Take your time - apparently there are still a couple of weeks left in the first day...

To see what is right, and not do it, is want of courage, or of principle. - Confucius

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hetrose
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08:19 AM on 01/06/2011
Not a bad fix. Those Republicans are not going to give up Happy Hour with their Lobbyists just to stand up and see how long they can talk without falling asleep.

However, instead of no Secret Holds, it should have been No Holds at all. This is not a building full of Kings (even if they think so), no one member should be able to just block a piece of legislation. "Let's see," Smack, smacking his brooding lips, "no, I just reallly don't like that one. It doesn't match my shoes."
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06:33 AM on 01/06/2011
Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism
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SiameseTrainer
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
08:29 AM on 01/06/2011
Is this a quote from "Mein Kampf"?
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DevonTexas
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12:56 PM on 01/06/2011
wow. what a waste of bytes.
scipio2009
Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
01:57 AM on 01/06/2011
Another example of an utter nothing bill, that does absolutely nothing to even attempt to address the underlying problem. The legislation will help make things a bit more "entertaining", one would guess, but still would do absolutely nothing to fix anything.

The fix to the filibuster problem, at the very core, is a quite simple one, and one that would've been far more effective.

When the Majority Leader calls for the end of the debate on a bill that''s left committee, instead of needing 60 votes to force the end of a debate, the fix would be needing 40 votes to continue the debate. Not that complex, as far as I'm concerned. The big things would still get tied up in such a system, but the core functions of the Senate would have the opportunity to work.

If a nominee leaves a committee with near unanimous support, it'd be a much trickier tact for a Senator, who supported the nominee in the committee, to then turn around and say that now, the support was in question. Simple and actually effective.
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lynettema
Little old lady
11:21 PM on 01/05/2011
I can live with these rule. When they have to state why they are filibustering and it's over when they quit talking............I can live with that. I am sure the crafty Cons will come with something though.
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Heartlight3
Every act is an act of self-definition.
10:45 PM on 01/05/2011
I think this is a reasonable compromise. Getting rid of the filibuster altogether could bite them in the butt later, but removing the anonymous single senator holds, and making them have to stay on the floor an explain their reasoning for the filibuster is a good thing.
07:29 PM on 01/05/2011
Is there really a democratic party anymore? Or are they all wolves in sheeps clothing?
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Longtimeliberal
06:37 PM on 01/05/2011
Make them speak on the floor! It is disgusting to see them just obstruct. Allow debate back and forth instead of just speeches!
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lynettema
Little old lady
11:26 PM on 01/05/2011
Did you read the article? Here, I'll help you out:

"Senators must actually be speaking on the Senate floor in order to keep the filibuster alive. If objecting senators finish speaking, the filibuster would end and the blocked bill in question would move to a final vote"
"The reform package also would allow for a shorter, two-hour window for debating a motion to proceed to legislation, which would make it impossible to filibuster the motion to move to debate a bill. Should the minority party filibuster any bill, it would require that those doing the filibustering provide a reason for doing so."
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BlueOnBlue
We're in this together
06:17 PM on 01/05/2011
I'm really just beside myself on the idea that the Senate is holding this one-day session and then won't do anything else of consequence for another 20 days.

This is supposedly the MLK day recess, when they usually take a whole week off, but they are extending it by another full week because they worked so hard last month. Sheesh!

Maybe the tea party people are right. This government is broken. And these Senators are incompetent.
06:27 PM on 01/05/2011
The system is designed to (not) work this way.
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mdmccormick
I am tired of this BS
06:13 PM on 01/05/2011
If the Democrats can’t even get this water down version of filibuster rules accomplished then they should be seriously ashamed of themselves.