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Obama Objects To Gitmo Limits, But Doesn't Claim Right To Defy Them

First Posted: 01/07/11 06:09 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

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President Obama on Friday afternoon signed a major military spending bill, even as he bitterly objected to provisions within it intended to limit his ability to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.

In a signing statement, Obama said Congress's ban on bringing Guantanamo detainees to the mainland in order to face domestic trials "represents a dangerous and unprecedented challenge to critical executive branch authority to determine when and where to prosecute Guantanamo detainees, based on the facts and the circumstances of each case and our national security interests."

And he said the move "undermines our Nation's counterterrorism efforts and has the potential to harm our national security."

He also objected to a provision that limits his use of defense money to transfer detainees to foreign countries, saying it "interfere[s] with the authority of the executive branch to make important and consequential foreign policy and national security determinations regarding whether and under what circumstances such transfers should occur in the context of an ongoing armed conflict."

He said those new requirements "would hinder the conduct of delicate negotiations with foreign countries and therefore the effort to conclude detainee transfers in accord with our national security."

But he stopped short of saying he does not consider himself bound by the new rules, saying instead that his administration "will work with the Congress to seek repeal of these restrictions, will seek to mitigate their effects, and will oppose any attempt to extend or expand them in the future."

In that way, Obama did not follow the precedent set by former President George W. Bush, who, when faced with provisions his lawyers felt intruded on his executive prerogatives, asserted his right to unilaterally ignore them. The Bush signing statements, generally the work of the vice president's office, often cited only his constitutional authority to "supervise the unitary executive."

Obama's language was considerably more specific about his objections, considerably less unilateral, and appeared to be more in line with the way previous presidents had used these statements.

Some of the same people and groups that strongly condemned Bush for executive overreach lauded Obama for his statement, and identified Congress as the party that had overreached this time.

"President Obama is correct that Congress should not be attempting to bar the administration from using government funds to transfer Guantánamo detainees to U.S. soil for prosecution or to transfer them to foreign countries for repatriation or release," American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Anthony Romero said in a statement.

In fact, Romero urged Obama to go further and circumvent the ban by using non-defense dollars to transfer the detainees.

The bipartisan Constitution Project released a statement from legal lion Abner Mikva and former FBI director and jurist William Sessions, urging Congress to reverse the language.

"This legislation not only removes one of the most reliable and effective tools we have in the fight against terrorism -- the use of federal criminal courts to try terrorism cases -- it also represents a clear intrusion on the authority of the executive branch to decide where prosecutions should be brought," Mikva and Sessions said.

"I think President Obama's statement shows admirable restraint," said Bruce Ackerman, a Yale Law School professor and author of a new book decrying presidential overreach, "The Decline and Fall of the American Republic".

"If there ever were a case in which Congress has usurped the power of the president to 'take care that the laws shall be faithfully executed,' this is it. Nevertheless, Mr. Obama was right in not asserting executive power to ignore Congressional statutes, and thereby reinforce the terrible precedents of the Bush era."

Ackerman wants to set up an institutional solution to such conflicts in the future. "While we should praise Obama for his self-restraint in the face of Congressional provocation," he explained, "we should recall Madison's warning that 'enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.'"

So why did Obama sign the bill, rather than use his authority to veto it? "Despite my strong objection to these provisions, which my Administration has consistently opposed, I have signed this Act because of the importance of authorizing appropriations for, among other things, our military activities in 2011," he wrote.

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President Obama on Friday afternoon signed a major military spending bill, even as he bitterly objected to provisions within it intended to limit his ability to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay...
President Obama on Friday afternoon signed a major military spending bill, even as he bitterly objected to provisions within it intended to limit his ability to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay...
 
 
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05:16 PM on 01/29/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/obama-objects-to-gitmo-li_n_806080.html

"President Obama on Friday afternoon signed a major military spending bill, even as he bitterly objected to provisions within it intended to limit his ability to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.

In a signing statement, Obama said Congress's ban on bringing Guantanamo detainees to the mainland in order to face domestic trials "represents a dangerous and unprecedented challenge to critical executive branch authority to determine when and where to prosecute Guantanamo detainees, based on the facts and the circumstances of each case and our national security interests."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/white-house-watched.html

http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reportsitem.aspx?id=100453
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jmpurser
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10:29 AM on 01/09/2011
So, once again, Obama gives away the farm to the Republicans but announces that he retains the right to whine about it?
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Mum
07:39 AM on 01/10/2011
So, once again, someone reads an article and seriously misinterprets what it says, just so they can use it as an opportunity to bash Obama.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:47 AM on 01/09/2011
Objective -- bury KSM, even if the other criminals, innocents and POWs are collateral damage at Gitmo.

Why bury KSM? T0rture? -- nah, that's old news and wouldn't get him aquitted.

Why bury KSM? It's the final act of the Empire's 9 1 1 covert operation.

btw, do you know that KSM's nephew trained the Oklahoma city ex-military cell on how to make their 5600 lb b0mb? Yah, small world ain't it. Too small for an open court for KSM.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:49 AM on 01/09/2011
Obama and Congress/Bloomberg are playing Good Cop / Bad Cop while the goal is firmly set.
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Mum
08:38 AM on 01/10/2011
Huh?
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01:42 AM on 01/09/2011
The pledge by Obama to close Gitmo within 1 year of his inauguration has to be one of the greatest whoppers ever told.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama, in a setback to hopes for the quick closing of the Guantanamo Bay prison, reluctantly signed a bill on Friday barring suspects held there from being brought to the United States for trial."
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jmpurser
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11:20 AM on 01/09/2011
Actually it's something he initially actually tried to do and was genuinely stopped by the party of No. With all this disaster of a president has done wrong you still managed to miss it.
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Mum
08:42 AM on 01/10/2011
Hardly a whopper, by any standards.  You apparently haven't been paying attention. 

President Obama can't close Guantanamo for two reasons:  (1)  Congress refused to provide the funding for the closure; (2)  None of the legislators of the states with supermax prisons were willing to take the prisoners, even though the communities that are sites of the prisons wanted the jobs and government money that would be coming to them.  The legislators, both state and federal, used fear as a tactic to sway the public against housing the prisoners.
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12:13 AM on 01/09/2011
Right. After two years, now he really, really, really wants to close his gulag. Sure...
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Mum
08:45 AM on 01/10/2011
Pay attention.  It might get some of the sand out of your ears.  The President issued a directive to close Guantanamo soon after his inauguration.  Congress refused to fund the closure, and state and federal legislators instilled fear in their constituents at the thought of housing the detainees in supermax prisoners in the States, even though several communities were eager to accept the detainees as it would increase jobs and bring in government money.
12:10 AM on 01/09/2011
Heavens no, don't close Guantanamo Bay, lets keep this terrorists PR tool.
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rgateman
10:51 PM on 01/08/2011
The longer Gitmo stays open the more the jihadist's will recruit to fight the meriklan n@zis. simple.
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SirSlappy
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09:57 PM on 01/08/2011
There's really nothing that Obama won't take lying down.
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Mum
08:46 AM on 01/10/2011
Get educated.  Then perhaps you will be able to make comments that are more than asinine one-liners.
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Joe Friday
08:26 PM on 01/08/2011
When you're young and inexperience bravado and cockiness is common. When you get beat-up politically you gain experience and learn that every battle can't be won! Barry is growing up before our eyes!
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kimbanyc
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09:23 PM on 01/08/2011
sadly twinkletoes all your posts on the shooting of the Congresswoman have been scrubbed. Guess you weren't talking about the rabid right. So funny you wingnuts all take your cues from Breitbart and the foaming right

PS Breitbart was a co founder and does AH really strike you as a liberal or is any one who disagrees with your narrow world view qualify as a " liberal"

very sad person
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Joe Friday
10:51 PM on 01/08/2011
Kimmy .... I have just replied to about a dozen additional "Haters", so as usual, you Libs are just full of schitt!
07:41 PM on 01/08/2011
we have army bases. They have lock ups. Bring em up here barack

once they are here, LET the right wet their pants
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01:45 AM on 01/09/2011
We have to keep them far away from liberal judges. Leave them in Gitmo.
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EcnelisDoogod
B the change you want 2C
06:44 PM on 01/08/2011
A little less talk, a little more action...

Gitmo. What would happen if we had trials.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/EcnelisDoogod/obama-administration-guantanamo-congress_n_803752_72601174.html
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cadawa
06:34 PM on 01/08/2011
Obama has pushed the limits of power of his office beyond what even Bush claimed in every area except this one. Why so dainty all of a sudden? Perhaps he's really that interested in closing the facility.
There are dozens of things he could starting with giving it back to Cuba if he really wanted to.
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terragazelle60
06:42 PM on 01/08/2011
So please goive some examples of where this presoident pushed the limits of his power? As to all treaties..they have to be oked by Congress.
This president lknows he is not a king...no codpiece for him.

How many hours a day do you watch Fox?
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Justmyopinion
06:50 PM on 01/08/2011
Where do you get your news from ? What makes you think that everyone who doesn't agree with Obama listen to Fox ? You sound like an Obermann follower. LOL
Keith Olbermann the sportscaster who was fired from FOX.
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cadawa
08:27 PM on 01/08/2011
Oh look. The Obama Brown Shirts have the same talking points. FOX. FYI he only time I watched FOX was on deep background for Greenwald's film "Outfoxed".
How about indefinite detention, assassinator and chief, grope or scope, interfering in Spain's Justice system, expanding Bush's 4th Amendment busting snoop system and the war gaming going on in the Pentagon for using the US military to suppress widespread civil unrest.....for starters.
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06:20 PM on 01/08/2011
in 2009 "Rebuking his predecessor for the second time today, President Obama declared that he will not use "signing statements" to disregard parts of laws because he disagrees on policy grounds, but only when he strongly believes the provisions are unconstitutional."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/03/obama_rebukes_b.html
06:08 PM on 01/08/2011
I personally feel that Guantanamo Bay should be left open. This is a place where we can securely keep any and all Maximum Security terrorists from threatening our National Security. I do not understand why people just don't worry about what goes on in there. Those terrorists are there for a reason. We do not need to worry why, but just be thankful they are not among the population of the United States. Be grateful that we are safe because of Guantanamo Bay and because of the great men and women who serve there to keep us safe. That is my view on Guantanamo Bay.
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06:14 PM on 01/08/2011
Your view is Fox News view. Probably 4 or 5 prisoners there are dangerous, the rest were sold to our troops by Iraqis who wanted money or just to get someone out of the way that they didn't like!
07:27 PM on 01/08/2011
I do not watch Fox News so obviously my view is not Fox News. Also, Neither of us can get an exact number to your statement about 4 or 5 prisoners are dangerous but I am fairly positive that there are a little more than 4 or 5 dangerous ones.
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Practice random acts of kindness-change the world
09:41 PM on 01/08/2011
You know this because.......
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EcnelisDoogod
B the change you want 2C
06:46 PM on 01/08/2011
Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it.
Noam Chomsky
07:31 PM on 01/08/2011
We are not intending to participating in terrorism. Now, are we killing innocent people? Yes. Does that come off as terrorism? Sure looks like it. Also, I do not feel we are going about this War the right way but our men do what their told. And if that means innocent people die then that is what happens. It is sad but thats the truth. Innocent people have died in every war so it is not just this one. Like I said it is not fair but it is what has to be done because they are told to do it.
06:03 PM on 01/08/2011
Obama = Bush with stronger and more direct ties to the bankers. He is a good lawyer for whoever is paying. Bush was more a placeholder.