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USS Revenge Shipwreck From 1811 Discovered Off Rhode Island Coast

MICHELLE R. SMITH   01/ 7/11 09:00 PM ET   AP

Uss Revenge Shipwreck

PROVIDENCE, R.I. — A team of divers say they've discovered the remains of the USS Revenge, a ship commanded by U.S. Navy hero Oliver Hazard Perry and wrecked off Rhode Island in 1811.

Perry is known for defeating the British in the 1813 Battle of Lake Erie off the shores of Ohio, Michigan and Ontario in the War of 1812 and for the line "We have met the enemy and they are ours." His battle flag bore the phrase "Don't give up the ship," and to this day is a symbol of the Navy.

The divers, Charles Buffum, a brewery owner from Stonington, Conn., and Craig Harger, a carbon dioxide salesman from Colchester, Conn., say the wreck changed the course of history because Perry likely would not have been sent to Lake Erie otherwise. Sunday is the 200th anniversary of the wreck.

Buffum said he's been interested in finding the remains of the Revenge ever since his mother several years ago gave him the book "Shipwrecks on the Shores of Westerly." The book includes Perry's account of the wreck, which happened when it hit a reef in a storm in heavy fog off Watch Hill in Westerly as Perry was bringing the ship from Newport to New London, Conn.

"I always thought to myself we ought to go out and have a look and just see if there's anything left," Buffum said.

The two, along with a third man, Mike Fournier, set out to find it with the aid of a metal detector. After several dives, they came across a cannon, then another.

"It was just thrilling," Harger said.

They made their first discovery in August 2005, and kept it secret as they continued to explore the area and make additional discoveries. Since then, they have found four more 42-inch-long cannons, an anchor, canister shot, and other metal objects that they say they're 99 percent sure were from the Revenge.

Buffum and Harger say the items fit into the time period that the Revenge sank, the anchor appears to be the main one that is known to have been cut loose from the ship, and that no other military ships with cannons have been recorded as sinking in the area.

They have not discovered a ship's bell or anything else that identifies it as the Revenge, and all the wood has disappeared, which is not unusual for a wreck that old, they said.

The Navy has a right to salvage its shipwrecks, and the two say they've contacted the Naval History & Heritage Command, which oversees such operations, in hopes the Navy will salvage the remains. A spokesman for the command did not immediately return messages seeking comment.

If the Navy does not, they said they hope to raise the money for a salvage operation so the artifacts can be displayed at a historical society.

They say they are concerned now that they are going public that other divers might try to remove objects from the site, which is a violation of the law. Many of the objects they found are in only 15 feet of water, although the area is difficult to dive because of currents, they said.

As for whether the wreck of the Revenge changed the course of history, David Skaggs, a professor emeritus of history at Bowling Green State University, said Perry might not put it that way. Skaggs has written two books on Perry, "A Signal Victory," about the Lake Erie campaign, which he co-authored, and a biography, "Oliver Hazard Perry: Honor, Courage, and Patriotism in the Early U.S Navy."

While Harger and Buffum say Perry was effectively demoted by being sent to the Great Lakes rather than getting another high seas command, Skaggs said the Great Lakes commission still gave Perry great prestige. Perry, a Rhode Island native, became known as the "Hero of Lake Erie" after he defeated a British squadron, becoming the first U.S. commander to do so.

"Whether or not there is another officer that could have done as well as Perry did is one of those 'might-have-beens' that historians are not prone to ask," Skaggs said.

Still, Skaggs said he was intrigued by the discovery.

"It is certainly an interesting new find on the eve of the bicentennial of the War of 1812," he said.

(Corrects to 'We' instead of 'I' in 2nd paragraph quote))

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PROVIDENCE, R.I. — A team of divers say they've discovered the remains of the USS Revenge, a ship commanded by U.S. Navy hero Oliver Hazard Perry and wrecked off Rhode Island in 1811. Perry is ...
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01:17 PM on 01/09/2011
I love hearing about the history of the War of 1812. A war of U.S. aggression that was fought and ***lost*** on U.S. soil. Guess it's hard to beat the British without the help of the French (those filthy cowards).
12:18 AM on 01/09/2011
I LOVE HISTORY!
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Bookman Dave
11:26 PM on 01/08/2011
Barclay had Perry beaten in the Battle of Lake Erie. Even sunk his flagship. The wind turn direction in the middle of the battle and in this type of battle the wind usually determines the victor. Side note: Perry and Barclay became life-long friends.
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11:22 PM on 01/08/2011
Rho-Die-lan'.
Don't get me sta'ted.
Iggy's Doughboys.
Del's.
New York System weiners. Olneyville.
The corna' spa for a cabinet.
Salty Brine.
Haven Brothers on a friday night.
Quohog chowda.
Clam cakes wit hot sorce.
water from the bubbla.
The hill.
The F.E.I Club in Valley Falls
'Tucket.
Buddy Cianci in a toupe.
The Outlet.
Townies.
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
07:48 PM on 01/08/2011
Cool stuff. As it happens, OHP is a relative.
06:12 PM on 01/08/2011
The photo is of the Dutch island Lighthouse just west of Jamestown Island.at the mouth of Narragansett Bay .They didn't pinpoint where the actual wreck is. It must have been in rocky bottom waters or otherwise the many fishing boats that drag nets would have picked it up long ago.
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Rudderman
GOP: All fringe, no carpet.
01:40 PM on 01/08/2011
I've sailed from New London to Newport. Just checked the chart. One wreck indicated just northeast of R "2" FL R 6s Bell. Rocks stretch 500 yards from the Watch Hill Light to this bell. Of course, the whole entrance to Fisher's Island Sound is tricky, so this area directly off Watch Hill is just one place where a deep draft vessel could come to grief. In any case, a wonderful find in the waters off a wonderful state.
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sonoffestus
Got smart & got out!
04:17 PM on 01/08/2011
Yup, there is some nasty water in those parts, but very beautiful. I'm sure you have been out to the Block. A little crowded these days, but not as bad as Nantucket or MV.

We just sold our boat out here in BC. Though it is beautiful the boating culture here is REALLY lacking. I would rather charter back east than own a big boat here.
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Rudderman
GOP: All fringe, no carpet.
05:40 PM on 01/08/2011
Sailed into Block Island; fog so thick we could barely see the bow...glad to arrive with keel intact. The Northeast is a sailing hotspot no question, and for good reason. Still, sadly, there aren't that many in the country so I understand your desire to return. If and when you come back, try Vineyard Haven mid-week. If you can't grab a mooring right away you can always drop the hook outside. Moorings free up pretty fast inside the breakwater, plus it's the best old-school, wooden boat sailor town on the island.
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Forester
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12:57 PM on 01/08/2011
Roger Williams who founded the Providence Plantation in the 1630's was a fascinating man who was one of our earliest proponents of religious freedoms AND separation. Little Rhodie has a proud historic tradition, and this wreck should be explored and publicized to keep that knowledge alive for today's citizens. (my brother married a Warwick girl, and she has the colonial fight in her!)
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gtt
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12:43 PM on 01/08/2011
Most interesting. Congratulations to Mr. Buffum and Mr. Harger. It would be a dream come true to search for and find lost ships. Years ago I did dive on a wreck discovered by my diving instructor months before. That was in the beautiful waters of the Pacific. One of the most dramatic days that I can remember.
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Forester
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12:34 PM on 01/08/2011
Oliver Hazard Perry, was a direct descendant of William Wallace.
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Downix
01:31 PM on 01/08/2011
Not sure how, as Wallace had no children. All members of the Wallace family are desended from his two brothers.
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Forester
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03:37 PM on 01/08/2011
His grandmother was a Wallace. Easy info to find!
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rastadaddio
none but ourselves can free our minds
12:32 PM on 01/08/2011
interesting. there's still alot of history to be discovered under our waters.
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12:28 PM on 01/08/2011
the picture is from narragansett bay in ri, but it's not the spot where the wreck was supposedly found.
KennebunkportIndependent
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05:29 PM on 01/08/2011
The is a common fa_ult of H  P.
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Big0725
Large...........but definitely NOT in charge!
07:35 PM on 01/08/2011
Do you really think that the folks that found it are going to let anyone other than the Navy get even a small idea where the wreck is located?

Jesus, use some common sense.
12:24 PM on 01/08/2011
I have always wanted to learn to dive ....it still can be a sport of true adventure.
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10:59 PM on 01/08/2011
Try muff diving some time funky. Much more fun.
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sonoffestus
Got smart & got out!
12:12 PM on 01/08/2011
My next door neighbour in RI was a Oliver Hazard Perry, a direct decendant of the Navel hero. Then there is Perryville , RI where the Misses and me used to bring a picnic to the trout hatchery there. If you haven't been to RI you should go. A beautiful place and great people. We'll be there in March for "stuffies" and Chowda. If you don't know what a stuffie is=, try one you'll love it. I might suggest a little Frank's or Tabasco on them. RI rocks!
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12:27 PM on 01/08/2011
Love RI! We used to spend a week there every summer when the kids were small. Now my daughter lives there, so we visit often. I love stuffies and clamcakes as well!
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12:40 PM on 01/08/2011
from RI. lived there until 2 weeks before the great blizzard of 78 ( i was 21 when we left). would still rather live there than anywhere else i've lived (FL, CT, MA).
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sonoffestus
Got smart & got out!
01:13 PM on 01/08/2011
If you haven't discoverd it yet, check out Tabor Franchi's VFW Post in Cranston. It's near the police station by the ball fields. It may be some of the best Italian food in the State. It ain't fancy, but the food is outstanding. Try their calamari or marinated smelts. Then of course their is Dell's.

Off topic, but since we're raving about RI............I want to shout out a BIG THANK YOU to the RI Veteran's Home in Bristol, RI. I recently past the 4th anniversary of my Mom's passing . The the entire staff should be awarded the Medal of Honor for the manner in which they care for their people. Thank you........You will forever be in my heart.
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05:31 PM on 01/08/2011
My family has strong links with the entire Perry family of Cape Cod.  Perry has become a common first name amongst my cousins and uncles.  Every one I know has a connection with the sea, the Navy or yachting.  It must be in the blood.
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11:13 AM on 01/08/2011
Just another example of the New Englander's love of history and adventure. Three cheers to the divers for doing it the right (and legal) thing.