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Jared Loughner Details Slowly Emerge Following Arizona Shooting

JUSTIN PRITCHARD   01/ 9/11 11:40 PM ET   AP

Jared Loughner

TUCSON, Ariz. — At an event roughly three years ago, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords took a question from Jared Loughner, the man accused of trying to assassinate her and killing six other people. According to two of his high school friends the question was essentially this: "What is government if words have no meaning?"

Loughner was angry about her response – she read the question and had nothing to say.

"He was like ... 'What do you think of these people who are working for the government and they can't describe what they do?'" one friend told The Associated Press on Sunday. "He did not like government officials, how they spoke. Like they were just trying to cover up some conspiracy."

Both friends spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they wanted to avoid the publicity surrounding the case. To them, the question was classic Jared: confrontational, nonlinear and obsessed with how words create reality.

The friends' comments paint a picture bolstered by other former classmates and Loughner's own Internet postings: that of a social outcast with nihilistic, almost indecipherable beliefs steeped in mistrust and paranoia.

"If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem," the 22-year-old wrote Dec. 15 in a wide-ranging screed that was posted in video form and ended with this: "What's government if words don't have meaning?"

On Sunday, Loughner was charged in the shootings a day earlier at a political event outside a Tucson supermarket. Aside from the six killed, 14 people were wounded. Doctors were optimistic about Giffords' chances for survival.

Loughner had at least one other contact with Giffords. Investigators said they carried out a search warrant at Loughner's home and seized a letter addressed to him from Giffords' congressional stationery in which she thanked him for attending a "Congress on your Corner" event at a mall in Tucson in 2007. Saturday's shooting occurred at a similar event.

Other evidence seized from his home included an envelope from a safe with messages such as "I planned ahead," "My assassination" and the name "Giffords" next to what appears to be Loughner's signature. Police say he purchased the Glock pistol used in the attack in November.

Loughner lives with his parents about a five-minute drive from the shootings, in a middle-class neighborhood lined with desert landscaping and palm trees. Sheriff's deputies blocked off much of the street Sunday.

Neighbors said Loughner kept to himself and was often seen walking his dog, almost always wearing a hooded sweat shirt and listening to his iPod.

His high school friends said they fell out of touch with Loughner and last spoke to him around March, when one of them was going to set up some bottles in the desert for target practice and Loughner suggested he might come along. It was unusual – Loughner hadn't expressed an interest in guns before – and his increasingly confrontational behavior was pushing them apart. He would send nonsensical text messages, but also break off contact for weeks on end.

"We just started getting sketched out about him," the friend said. It was the first time he'd felt that way.

Around the same time, Loughner's behavior also began to worry officials at Pima Community College, where Loughner began attending classes in 2005, the school said in a release.

Between February and September, Loughner "had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions," the statement said. He was suspended in September 2010 after college police discovered a YouTube video in which Loughner claimed the college was illegal according to the U.S. Constitution. He withdrew voluntarily the following month, and was told he could return only if, among other things, a mental health professional agreed he did not present a danger, the school said.

It was at the college that Loughner had posed his question to Giffords about government and words, one friend said. A college spokesman said Giffords often has used school property for open events; a Giffords spokesman said he was not sure at which event the exchange would have taken place.

Loughner's alienation from his friends was gradual.

The Loughner they met when he was a freshman at Mountain View High School may have been socially awkward, but he was generally happy and fun to be around. The crew smoked marijuana every day, and when they weren't going to concerts or watching movies they talked about the meaning of life and dabbled in conspiracy theories.

For a time, Loughner drank heavily, to the point of poisoning himself, the friends said. Once, during school lunch break as a junior, he downed so much tequila that he came back to class, within five minutes passed out cold, had to be rushed to the hospital and "almost died," one friend said.

Mistrust of government was Loughner's defining conviction, the friends said. He believed the U.S. government was behind 9/11, and worried that governments were maneuvering to create a unified monetary system ("a New World Order currency" one friend said) so that social elites and bureaucrats could control the rest of the world.

On his YouTube page, he listed among his favorite books "Animal Farm" and "Brave New World" – two novels about how authorities control the masses. Other books in the wide-ranging list included "Mein Kampf," "The Communist Manifesto," "Peter Pan" and Aesop's Fables.

Over time, Loughner became increasingly introspective – what one of the friends described as a "nihilistic rut."

An ardent atheist, he began to characterize people as sheep whose free will was being sapped by the government and the monotony of modern life.

"He didn't want people to wake up and do the same thing every day. He wanted more chaos, he wanted less regularity," one friend said.

The friends said Loughner told anyone who would listen that the world we see does not exist, that words have no meaning – and that the only way to derive meaning was during sleep. Loughner began obsessing about a practice called lucid dreaming, in which people try to actively control their sleeping world.

Several people who knew Loughner at community college said he did not engage in political discussions, but was socially awkward.

"He made a lot of the people really uncomfortable, especially the girls in the class," said Steven Cates, who attended an advanced poetry writing class with Loughner at Pima Community College last spring. Though he struck up a passing friendship with Loughner, he said a group of other students went to the teacher to complain about Loughner at one point.

Another poetry student, Don Coorough, said Loughner read a poem about bland tasks such as showering, going to the gym and riding the bus in wild "poetry slam" style – "grabbing his crotch and jumping around the room."

When other students, always seated, read their poems, Coorough said Loughner "would laugh at things that you wouldn't laugh at." After one woman read a poem about abortion, "he was turning all shades of red and laughing," and said, "Wow, she's just like a terrorist, she killed a baby," Coorough said.

"He appeared to be to me an emotional cripple or an emotional child," Coorough said. "He lacked compassion, he lacked understanding and he lacked an ability to connect."

Cates said Loughner "didn't have the social intelligence, but he definitely had the academic intelligence."

"He was very into the knowledge aspect of school. He was really into his philosophy classes and he was really into logic and English. And he would get frustrated by the dumbed-down words people used in class," Cates said.

Loughner expressed his interest in grammar and logic on the Internet as he made bizarre claims – such as that the Mars rover and the space shuttle missions were faked.

He frequently used "if-then" constructions in making nonsensical arguments. For instance: "If the living space is able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of -454F then the human body is alive in the NASA Space Shuttle. The human body isn't alive in the NASA Space Shuttle. Thus, the living space isn't able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of -454F."

Loughner also said in one video that government is "implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar." He described America's laws as "treasonous" and said that "every human who's mentally capable is always able to be treasurer of their new currency."

Loughner described himself as a U.S. military recruit in the video, but the Army released a statement ssying he tried to enlist but was rejected. The statement said under federal privacy law, no reason could be specified.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited in Pima County for possession of drug paraphernalia, which was dismissed after he completed a diversion program, according to online records.

A year later he was charged with an unknown "local charge" in Marana near Tucson. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009, the Arizona Daily Star reported.

"He has kind of a troubled past, I can tell you that," Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said.

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TUCSON, Ariz. — At an event roughly three years ago, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords took a question from Jared Loughner, the man accused of trying to assassinate her and killing six other people. Accor...
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03:56 PM on 01/11/2011
Lost in this conversation is the notion that anti-government IS IN FACT also anti-American and specifically anti-American people.

Stoking anti government paranoia for profit, especially when that government is "of, for, and by the people", is bad enough but when you know for a fact the you cater to the mentally defective and unstable, hostile, anti-social elements of the far right then it must be considered criminal.
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Theresa N
06:06 PM on 01/10/2011
I feel a great deal of sadness that this young man didn't get help. His bizarre behavior began at a typical age for the onset of schizophrenia, late in high school or early in college. He self-medicated with liquor and marijuana, and no marijuana did not cause this. I've seen medication work, no not curing but helping, for many seriously ill patients. I do not believe that his illness is the cause of the murder but in this rare case certainly contributed a great deal. The belief that words have no meaning and that nothing is real and his otherwise obviously disturbed behavior clearly indicate schizophrenia. Did anyone tell him he needed medication? Did his parents take him to a psychiatrist? If not, why? Medications could have made the world real for him. It could have relieved the painful chaos of his thoughts and the rest of his world. I cannot emphasize enough the mental pain that the psychotic experience. People have the right to refuse treatment unless they are an imminent threat to themselves or others, but I have seen people hospitalized involuntarily for far less than his symptoms. His public acting out was so extreme and so indicative of schizophrenia it should have alerted his friends and families to how ill he was. There is nothing to indicate that anyone tried to get him treatment. It didn't have to be this way.
05:43 PM on 01/10/2011
Lets see here.. He was described by a friends as "left wing" and "quite liberal" and "oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." A pot smoker, An Atheist , Anti Constitution, hated the flag.. hmmmm Sounds like one of your Progressives.
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rm10011
05:20 PM on 01/10/2011
Regardless of his adult status, if he was living at home; where were his parents? Didn't they notice their son's increasingly alarming freak-out? Hearing a lot of conversations about gun-laws and incendiary political rhetoric, but haven't heard a single conversation about parenting!
03:49 PM on 01/10/2011
When someone tried to attack Times Square… the left cried “Teabagger!”
When someone attacked a muslim cab driver…the left cried “Teabagger!”
When someone attacked the Discovery Channel ….the left cried “Teabagger!”
Now someone attacks a crowd of people in AZ…..and the left cries “Teabagger!”
……surprise….surprise….his comments from the Daily Kos are coming out and it looks like he’s a…..you guessed it….left wing fanatic….Do you libs ever get tired of being wrong?
03:37 PM on 01/10/2011
"beliefs steeped in mistrust and paranoia"
A classic cop-out. Attempt to equate not trusting the government and having beliefs outside the status-quo as being dangerous.
Based on polls, many Americans have a significant mistrust of government. And what is termed paranoia is, like most things, always subjective. If the case had been that he thought Giffords herself was after him - the paranoia angle might be a valid one to come into play.
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03:17 PM on 01/10/2011
The media is already going "Reefer Madness" and blaming marijuana . Well, I smoke mj and I have been incensed at the homicidal rhetoric from the right wing. I predicted this sad event a long time ago!
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03:15 PM on 01/10/2011
Lot's of mentally ill people out there, and the right wing caters to them. Americans need to educate themselves about mental illness, then maybe they would not put so many nuts on TV like Palin and Beck and Sharon Angle and all the other paranoia, antigovernment freaks.
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07:20 PM on 01/10/2011
Yes, there are many mentally ill people in the United States... and the great majority of them are decent, caring people who would never do anything like this. But you're right, Americans do need to educate themselves about mental illness. Let's start with you.
03:00 PM on 01/10/2011
Can we please be a little more cautious? The accusations about where the shooters' paranoid rantings place him on the political spectrum remind me so much of what happened after the Fort Hood massacre. Then, people were clamoring to link the shooter with radical Islam.

Dangerously mentally ill people can have political and religious views. Even if those beliefs are cited as the motivation, it doesn't follow that the political organizations or religions are responsible -- that they were the "but for" cause of a mass murder.

For sure, we consistently should take to task public figures, including media and radio personalities, who incite violence, but for now no linkage has been shown. In the meantime, it isn't fair to suggest the tea party has blood on its hands because, like the shooter, they are angry and believe in the gold standard.
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Yenzer
The moose out front should’ve told you.
02:12 PM on 01/10/2011
Way too slow here I'm gone. Again.
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02:00 PM on 01/10/2011
when are we ever going to lessen the vampire squid grip of the health insurance companies so that people can get mental health treatment if they need it?

that's all I want to know.
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mandalay007
01:58 PM on 01/10/2011
It is now going to be interesting as to see how many liberal HP readers are going to say the poor guy is mentally ill (maybe so), and there should be no capital punishment. I hope he does not escape the dealth penalty----any more than McVeigh or Ted K. did---and, hopefully, vast resources will not be expended on a host of appeals---------undue "due process"/ over the top------sorry he didn't get treatment--------but, I suspect it would have done no good due to the messing w/ chemical stuff/ (drugs) anyway.---this guy is prob. not much different from the kids who killed the students in Washington some years back. The unfortunate thing is that he didn't save resources by doing himself in after he did this----ya gotta wonder what/where his parents were w/ him and the gun biz-------as one did w/ the Washington boys----------very sad all around
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Yenzer
The moose out front should’ve told you.
01:37 PM on 01/10/2011
I went to a large high school, about 800 in my class. I saw about 5-6 of the people I went to school with develop Schizophrenia Disorder. This type of Schizophrenia comes on in late teens-early twenties. Some people had a year or two of illness and then seemed to return to “normal”. Most are still schizophrenic to this day. I assume all are getting some medical treatment. None were locked away but a few did spend time in psychiatric hospitals. You just can’t lock people up because they have this disorder unless they are a threat to themselves or others. Although the fact this guy was allowed to buy a gun legally is unbelievable. I would be very surprised if he hadn’t already seen a doctor. The behavior becomes so outrageous that deciding on medical treatment becomes a simple decision. When I occasionally run into these people I don’t feel endangered. But I don’t spend any more time with them than I have to. I feel sorry for them because they were great people and great friends.
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01:36 PM on 01/10/2011
What happened to the gal who said that he was a left wing dope smoker. Her assesment of him.
A devil worshipping hard rocker listener. Sounds like any other boy down the street.
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montn2
The poor man's son fights the rich man's war.
01:31 PM on 01/10/2011
Try this one for answers: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/09/who-is-jered-lee-loughner/