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Frum Fingers Marijuana As Culprit In Tucson Shooting

First Posted: 01/11/11 01:34 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

David Frum has a lot of smart things to say about this past weekend's tragic armed rampage in Tucson, but this isn't one of them:

After horrific shootings, we hear calls for stricter regulation of guns. The Tucson shooting should remind us why we regulate marijuana.

Jared Lee Loughner, the man held as the Tucson shooter, has been described by those who know as a "pot smoking loner."

He had two encounters with the law, one for possession of drug paraphernalia.

Yes, okay! Pardon me, CSI Tucson, we hate to interrupt you as you collect 30-some-odd shell casings and catalog them as evidence that a murdery gun rampage just happened, but have you stopped to consider the possibility of REEFER MADNESS? That's essentially what Frum suggests this crime may have been all about:

We are also learning that Loughner exhibited signs of severe mental illness, very likely schizophrenia.

The connection between marijuana and schizophrenia is both controversial and complicated. The raw association is strong:

* Schizophrenics are twice as likely to smoke marijuana as non-schizophrenics.
* People who smoke marijuana are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia as those who do not smoke.

But is correlation causation?

Frum thinks so, and submits that "experts" agree. He goes on to cite a strangely non-plural expert, Marie-Odile Krebs, who conducted a study that found:

[In a] population of 190 patients (121 of whom had used cannabis), researchers found a subgroup of 44 whose disease was powerfully affected by the drug. These patients either developed schizophrenia within a month of beginning to smoke pot or saw their existing psychosis severely exacerbated with each successive exposure to the drug. Schizophrenia appeared in these patients nearly three years earlier than in other marijuana-users with the disease.

The first problem here is that the author of the Time piece that Frum cites says he missed the point of her story. "He sort of made an overly simplified causal leap," says Maia Szalavitz, a Time magazine health reporter who, you know, knows what she's talking about. "There's a human psychological bias toward seeing something as either totally good and wonderful or horrible and degrading. The truth is, most things, including drugs, have some of both."

But Frum has a bigger problem: No one has confirmed, as yet, that Jared Loughner is schizophrenic, unless we are treating the distance diagnosis of self-accredited ophthalmologist Rand Paul seriously. Most of what's available at the moment is pure speculation from people who have neither examined the suspect nor properly diagnosed his mental illness.

Szalavitz also notes that despite the fact that pot has gone from obscurity to immensely popular over the past 75 or so years, there has been no increase in schizophrenia. That so many schizophrenics smoke pot is largely explained in the studies by the fact that so many are schizophrenics are men, and men are much more likely to smoke pot than women.

Another problem is that the only person anyone has talked to who was an intimate of Loughner's is Bryce Tierney, a friend since middle school, and while he recalls a change in behavior -- toward "nihilism" and obsessions with "semantics" and "lucid dreaming" -- occuring while the two of them were high school friends, this is what he recalls about Loughner's pot use:

In October 2008, Tierney was living in Phoenix, and Loughner came to visit. They went to see a Mars Volta concert with friends, and Tierney was surprised when Loughner said he had quit partying "completely." Loughner, according to Tierney, said, "I'm going to lead a more healthy lifestyle, not smoke cigarettes or pot anymore, and I'm going to start working out." Tierney was happy for his friend: "I said, 'Dude, that's awesome.' And the next time I saw him he was 10 pounds lighter." Tierney never saw Loughner smoke marijuana again, and he was surprised at media reports that Loughner had been rejected from the military in 2009 for failing a drug test: "He was clean, clean. I saw him after that continuously. He would not do it."

After Loughner apparently gave up drugs and booze, "his theories got worse," Tierney says. "After he quit, he was just off the wall." And Loughner started to drift away from his group of friends about a year ago. By early 2010, dreaming had become Loughner's "waking life, his reality," Tierney says. "He sort of drifted off, didn't really care about hanging out with friends. He'd be sleeping a lot." Loughner's alternate reality was attractive, Tierney says. "He figured out he could fly." Loughner, according to Tierney, told his friends, "I'm so into it because I can create things and fly. I'm everything I'm not in this world."

"There is the intriguing possibility that he was, kind of, going off his meds," Szalavitz speculates. But I know what you're thinking, and NO, you shouldn't NOT get sober for fear you are going to spiral into madness. This is simply to point out that the most compelling insight we have on offer into Loughner's life, from someone up close and personal, suggests that his mental health issues and his problems with drugs are incidental and unconnected to one another. And if quitting marijuana led to a worsening of Loughner's mental state, well, Frum's theories and studies would appear to be a dead letter.

But seriously analyzing Frum's weed-baiting misses the point, because what's happening here is something deeper: The tragic massacre on Saturday is working like the Clockwork Orange eyelid retractors, forcing us to stare deeply into the twisted soul of America's violent culture. Some folks, quite reasonably, would prefer to look at something a lot less scary. Like, say, pot.

Frum has had some company in his madness. The networks highlighted Laughner's history of weed smoking. Michael Bloomberg called him a "drug abuser." And Rush Limbaugh railed: "Where are the parents? Are they derelicts? He was so devoted to marijuana he wanted to make it the new U.S. currency."

Nevertheless, if these theories do prove themselves out somehow, I find Frum's conclusion to be extremely odd in the way he fails to close the circle:

After the Tucson shooting, there may be renewed pressure to control the weapons that committed the crime. But what about the drugs that may have aggravated the killer's mental disease? The trend these days seems toward a more casual attitude and easier access to those drugs. Among the things we should be discussing in the aftermath of this horror is the accumulating evidence of those drugs' potential contribution to making some dangerous people even more dangerous than they might otherwise have been.

Isn't the exceedingly obvious conclusion here that people who desire to own firearms should have to submit to both drug tests and a mental health evaluation? I guess the trend these days seems toward a more casual attitude and easier access to Glocks.

WATCH the nets on weed:


RELATED:
Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords [Mother Jones]
David Frum Asks Important Question: 'Did Pot Trigger Giffords Shooting?' [Wonkette]

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David Frum has a lot of smart things to say about this past weekend's tragic armed rampage in Tucson, but this isn't one of them: After horrific shootings, we hear calls for stricter regulation of...
David Frum has a lot of smart things to say about this past weekend's tragic armed rampage in Tucson, but this isn't one of them: After horrific shootings, we hear calls for stricter regulation of...
 
 
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iskra 03:10 PM on 01/11/2011
He shot them with a joint? WTF Frum...you're not the sharpest pencil in the box to start with but that's mainly because you insist on defending self-serving policies of the GOP which makes anyone sound like a twit, but this is over the top. 

Pot heads are the LAST group of people we have to worry about violence from, duh. 

On the other hand what legal meds has this guy been taking?  Read More...
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Opening Shares
02:46 PM on 01/23/2011
Marijuana has more psychoactive effects on some people more than others. Nah! Really?
Oxygen probably has more of a psychoactive effect on some people more than others, although it pretty much be impossible to delineate what those effects are.
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AntiRethuglican
Proud_Liberal
02:45 PM on 01/23/2011
My God-this man is truly a fool!
06:15 PM on 01/21/2011
Most mentally ill people, busy with internal demons and external harassment, are not violent against anyone but themselves. The dangerous we incarcerate -- in jails or mental health facilities. There was talk that the Columbine crazies were on anti-depressants known to affect cognition of harm and increase propensity to violence. The evidence on mj re mental health is mixed. Many find some degree of relief to better manage their symptoms, as with many "physical" diseases. Marijuana use does not cause mental illness. It may increase confusion, which can display a previously undiagnosed condition

Mental illness is a catch phrase for a variety of situations: learning disabilities, the autistic spectrum, schizophrenias, mood disorders, personality disorders -- none of these are well understood. They are different ways of processing information from the norm, which has no fixed definition.

Problems are often about concomitant social illnesses -- people treated as "other" kept out of the mainstream through their own confusions, overwhelmed sensitivities, the responses they get from those around them.

We need more public dialog to better understand the dissociative and delusional thought that, really, we all experience at times. A recent tv ad talks about how important friendship can be. Various studies indicate that real, honest human interaction can be better treatments that do not adequately show respect for the mentally ill person's humanity and healing ability. We often feel uncomfortable around people who appear "strange." Perhaps we need community safe havens where people can relate in more meaningful ways than is
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hornedcog
Tax Tea Now!
10:03 AM on 01/16/2011
Religion is the drug of choice for most schizophrenics. It all starts with a voice in your head.
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AmericanRealistSR
I think, therefore I'm a Liberal.
02:16 AM on 01/16/2011
I believe the study Mr. Frum cites was conducted in France. When was the last time someone with a "cannabis-induced" mental illness went on a shooting rampage in France?
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03:35 PM on 01/15/2011
And Mr. Frum is an expert in what field?
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
02:35 PM on 01/23/2011
I'm not sure, what did his business card say?
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Opening Shares
03:15 PM on 01/23/2011
Writing speeches.
10:53 AM on 01/14/2011
Why do people who smoke insist they know it's effect on everybody else? There are those of us who know for a fact that it can have negative mental effects from experience. If that is not the case for you, fine. But you don't speak for everybody and you shouldn't claim to.
02:40 PM on 01/14/2011
There are always a small percentage who are exceptions to the rule. Mental illness can probably be affected by Cannabis, in both negative and positive ways. Cannabis is a medicine that has been unfairly impugned by propaganda. We need to stop the fear mongering to allow proper studying of this miracle drug.
10:52 AM on 01/16/2011
Small percentage? Mental illness? I have no mental illness. i am a mentally syable person until I smoke weed. And I know plenty of people who feel the same. What is with this denial?
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marthamothra
08:34 AM on 01/14/2011
Marijuana? Oh please.
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dlo2
07:43 PM on 01/13/2011
Chronic use of marijuana and alcohol/other drugs in people suffering from schizophrenia or other emotional problems can also be the need to self-medicate and relieve suffering. http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

This points to the need of healthcare access and coverage for all Americans and to insure the ability of healthcare practitioners (and complimentary and alternative medicine) to help relieve suffering, whether it is mind, body, or spirit.
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scott456
12:17 AM on 01/13/2011
I can't believe you put this much thought into rejecting such an idiotic statement.
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midnight toker
09:39 PM on 01/12/2011
uh..

anderson cooper just mocked the woman who blamed the bird deaths on the DADT repeal..

so hey anderson.. could you please mock this guy frum for blaming the az shootings on pot?

thank you in advance!
06:53 PM on 01/12/2011
Is salvia a hallucinogen?
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kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
04:27 PM on 01/12/2011
The United States Supreme Court is hearing arguments today about the 4th Amendment legality of a marijuana arrest. Imagine the THOUSANDS of dollars that could have been saved....
03:23 PM on 01/12/2011
So judging by the article, there's a small possibility that had he KEPT smoking pot, this might not have even happened.
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ChknLvr
08:06 PM on 01/19/2011
yep, it may have kept him relaxed and not so wound up.
Konnie
PO'd PROGRESSIVE
02:57 PM on 01/12/2011
what a crock.
reefer madness ride again.........