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Mark Ruffalo's Crusade Against Fracking: 'The World Is Leaving Us Behind'

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/18/11 03:24 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

On what many New Yorkers deemed a snow day, one overflowing gallery in the city was filled with artists and activists who decided to leave their warm apartments and hot chocolates behind in support of a cause worthy of traipsing through the snow. The event was "Fracking and Its Effects: A Panel Discussion," in support of Exit Art's "Fracking: Art and Activism Against the Drill," an exhibit open through February 5th.

The panel was hosted by Mark Ruffalo, an acclaimed actor/activist known among Huffington Post readers for his insightful pieces, famous among film watchers for his recent award-nominated performance in "The Kids Are All Right," and now infamous among government officials as a man who won't stop talking about fracking.

Fracking, or hydraulic fracturing, is a process that can be used to retrieve natural gas. It involves injecting chemicals, sand, and millions of gallons of water into shale rock. The shale is then shattered, releasing trapped gas. The problem is that when the gas comes to the surface, some water returns as well, and this water is often tainted with poisonous, carcinogenic chemicals.

The harmful effects of fracking are all too tangible, and Mark Ruffalo will be the first to tell you this. His friend's one-lane country road became a 30-foot highway for sonar pounding, and the quiet region of New York where Mark lives with his family may soon be destroyed by natural gas drilling.

Fracking ramification reports are terrifying, to say the least - after drinking water near fracking well sites, livers/hearts/respiratory systems fail, rare forms of cancer mysteriously grow, and cows drop dead.

Mark Ruffalo sat down for an exclusive interview with The Huffington Post, and told us, "I'm basically here to inform New Yorkers about the attack that's taking place on their water." To him, this attack is deeply personal, as he revealed, "I'm raising three kids right smack dab in the middle of it."

This attack will have consequences far into the future. Mark shook his head, as he explained, "Our energy use has gotten so out of control. The cheap, quick energy has become less and less available, and so our extraction methods have become riskier and riskier - now if you extrapolate that into 10 years, you have mountaintop removal, the destruction to health, water, landscape; you couple that with deep ocean drilling, you couple that with hydro-fracturing, you couple that with tar sands distillery... we are only going to see greater degradation, more and more catastrophes, and greater catastrophes."

He leaned in for a beat. "Either we're going to go with some grace into green energy, or we're gonna go kicking and screaming, but we're going by God. The world is already leaving us behind. We're being left behind. America. Because the gas and oil industry has a strangle hold on us. And our politicians." He leaned back, contemplating what he had just said, then nodded to himself. "But we're going."

And so over 300 people gathered for this full house, standing-room-only event, in hopes of going with some grace.

The panel was moderated by activist Tracy Carluccio, and featured a certified internist, a policy director, a filmmaker, and multiple artist/activists.

Mark Ruffalo introduced the panel, asking the audience, "Are we going to continue to put our lives, our health, our well being into the hands of politicians and corporations who consistently say they have our back, and at the same time, screw the bejesus out of us?"

Josh Fox, director of the critically acclaimed documentary "Gasland," spoke from personal experience about regions in this country where gas drilling occurs. He considers these places a new country, "where the rules of democracy that we enjoy in the United States of America don't apply anymore. You don't own your own house, you don't control your own fate, you don't have any say over what goes into your water or air. You could become ill at any moment and you have lost all the values in your home. Like many of us on this panel, your life is completely taken over by gas drilling."

But why exactly is this all-consuming? Josh explained that "you wake up dizzy and your children have nosebleeds in the middle of the night, and when you call the DEP they go 'well we don't have any evidence of pollution from hydraulic fracturing.'"

A few years ago when Josh Fox found himself caught in this all-consuming madness, he created "Gasland." Ultimately for Josh, it's not just about hydro fracturing, but our energy dependence in general. Josh concluded that "our problem's not going to be resolved, your problem's not going to be resolved, until we stop depending on fossil fuels altogether." The audience nearly cut him off with their applause.

When Josh spoke to us after the panel, he further explained his concerns with hydraulic fracturing, citing the gas companies as the challenge. They "spend a lot of advertising dollars to clean up their image, but they're not interested in cleaning up the problem, because they know they can't clean up the problem." And just how big is this problem? Coming from a man who has seen a lot traveling around the world these past few years, his eyes widened as he confessed, "the scope of it is terrifying, the impacts are enormous, the number of people who are affected is huge."

While Josh played the eyewitness on the panel, Al Appleton played perhaps the voice of authority. As the former Commissioner of NYC's Department of Environmental Protection and the former Director of the New York City Water and Sewer System, the man knows how the government really runs, and he's seen the red tape over green policies. "The [gas] industry would like you to believe... that green energy is thirty, forty years away." And yet, he argued, "In World War II we went from zero to a fifty million-man fully equipped military in five years. There is no reason to say that green energy is marginal and won't happen for thirty years, because listen, if we want green energy to happen, it can happen. Now." Al suggested that we do this by putting the billions of dollars currently spent on gas into green energy, including wind and solar power, as well as geothermal energy.

Heads swimming with mass amounts of passionate personal stories, legal facts, and calls to action, attendees hung around after the panel, and not just for the free grapes and champagne. Many visited the exhibit, a snaked hallway covered with photos, poems, even jars of water sent in from people affected by fracking. Others promoted new grassroots events, like Marc Black, writer of the song "No Fracking Way," who was in the midst of creating a 200-person music video in Woodstock. And then there were people like Nicole Shore, a young PR professional, who told us she attended because "clearly this is an issue that people care about in the city. And I think, if we can get everybody who was irate about the snowstorm last week to know about natural gas fracking, the problem will be solved."

And once everyone knows about the dangers of fracking, what should they do about it? Beyond slugging through sludge to a panel in a snowstorm, contacting representatives is key. According to Exit Art, the Energy Policy Act of 2005 exempts fracking from the Safe Drinking Water Act, removing any liability and EPA oversight of the gas industry. Activists want to change this. Many are calling for a ban on gas drilling.

Mark Ruffalo offered direct advice for Huffington Post readers - "Get educated, go to NYH20, go to CatskillMountainKeeper.com, go to Damascus Citizens, go to "Gasland." See "Gasland." Educating yourself is probably the greatest thing you can do for yourself and your children." Then, with a twinkle in his eye, he continued, "What people have a hard time now with is hope. They feel like the system is rigged against them, and what I always say, and I know to be true from my own adventures and experiences, is if you're losing hope then you're not doing enough. And it's you, it's not it, it's you. And even writing a letter, you've already engaged in hope. You've done something that's proactive, that's greater than yourself."

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Blackorpheus
the decisive blows are always struck left-handed
11:30 AM on 02/15/2011
Stop fracking. Commence f--king. Energy is eternal delight, but that excludes "hydraulic fracturing" for fuel.
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Marcusarilius
Marooned Star Traveler
07:42 PM on 02/09/2011
Gas Land.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8
09:10 AM on 02/08/2011
Does Mr. Ruffalo have any explanation why Mr. Fox endorses geothermal which requires a process much like fracking? He usrges people to watch Gasland but that movie is filled with inadequacies and half truths. Even regulators in PA and CO have trashed it.
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mrjeremyfisher
12:40 AM on 02/01/2011
"Gas Drilling Technique Is Labeled Violation" 1/31/2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/business/energy-environment/01gas.html?hp

"Oil and gas service companies injected tens of millions of gallons of diesel fuel into onshore wells in more than a dozen states from 2005 to 2009, Congressional investigators have charged. Those injections appear to have violated the Safe Water Drinking Act, the investigators said in a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency on Monday".

HuffPost, I hope you will now revisit this story - critically important to the lives of tens if not hundreds of thousands of Americans. Indeed the Hydraulic Fracturing proposed in upstate New York that Mr. Mark Ruffalo opposed would have very probably had an impact on the water supply for New York City - literally tens of millions of Americans.

There are so many implications from this story that I hope it is not too overshadowed by the truly historic events in Egypt. It specifically speaks to corruption and criminality with the cozy relationship between the oil and gas industry and the EPA during the recent Bush administration - although Democratic administrations have certainly not been immune. However, the problem seems to have been particularly bad during President Bush's terms in office when serious conflicts of interest were routine and the foxes truly begun to run the hen house. Indeed can there really be any greater conflict than 2 oil men running the country and appointing people to the EPA from their own industry?
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mrjeremyfisher
12:22 AM on 02/01/2011
"Gas Drilling Technique Is Labeled Violation" 1/31/2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/business/energy-environment/01gas.html?hp

"Oil and gas service companies injected tens of millions of gallons of diesel fuel into onshore wells in more than a dozen states from 2005 to 2009, Congressional investigators have charged. Those injections appear to have violated the Safe Water Drinking Act, the investigators said in a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency on Monday".

Those on this thread whom have defended the environmental and ethical honor of the Hydraulic Fracturing industry are proven conclusively as either hopelessly naive at best, or dangerously foolish at worst. I invite all of you to move your families to the heart of any of the areas undergoing fracking and stand on your flimsy soap boxes defending these criminals.

This effectively finishes the attempt to undertake Hydraulic Fracturing in upstate New York near the home of Mr Ruffalo and his neighbors, neither Republicans nor Democrats, but Americans. More unites us all than divides us, most especially when pure greed and criminality tries to "frack" our communities and divide opposition with lies and political manipulation.

Mr Manling, shame on you. You're proven a fool and everything Mr. Ruffalo called you and worse.
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Chris Salmon
Geologist and Computer Scientist
12:01 PM on 02/08/2011
"I invite all of you to move your families to the heart of any of the areas undergoing fracking and stand on your flimsy soap boxes defending these criminals."

You mean like my home, where I grew up? hahhaah I don't mean to giggle but did you seriously think people had NOT been living in such areas for like, 100 years?
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Lance Manling
03:38 PM on 01/22/2011
Ruffalo is a fraud who does not understand the issues nor the science.

Time to get off the stage fraud.

I want my apology Ruffalo.
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angusmciver
Feels Empty
08:06 PM on 01/22/2011
Why do you think he owes you an apology? Is he hampering an industry your involved in or something?
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Lance Manling
10:27 AM on 01/23/2011
Yes, I gave him my honest opinion. He called me corporate shill. I am not so I want an apology.

He isn't man enough to allow someone to have a differing opinion to state it without calling names. He clearly does not understand the issues or the science. He is pushing Gasland as if he has something riding on it (perhaps he financed the film).

I want him to man up. Otherwise go back to making crappy movies (except Shutter Island-I liked him in that).
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Lance Manling
01:50 PM on 01/27/2011
He called me something that I am not. I would like him to retract his claim.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
01:32 PM on 01/22/2011
Natural gas and all fossil fuels will soon have cost-competitive renewable energy that may allow the market to supersede them.

Cold Fusion was demonstrated in Italy one week ago. A 10,000 watt pre-production prototype has a projected capital cost of $2,600/kW and a power cost of 1c/kWh.

Production is to take place within 90 days and a 1 Megawatt power plant has been ordered.

Other systems in the birth canal project capital cost well below that of natural gas.

See Green Light and Cold Fusion at: www.aesopinstitute.org

So far, the Cold Fusion system seems real. If that proves to be the case, it may cause an increasing number of scientists to reexamine their rejection of other out-of-the-box claims that violate textbook physics.

Regardless, if these revolutionary systems enter mass production they will displace fossil fuels, faster than most would have believed.

We are at the edge of a series of energy breakthroughs that can change the ballgame.

With 24/7 development that could begin to occur much more rapidly.

None of these systems is yet adequately proven. But, to the surprise of many, a few will be during the next year or two.
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Lance Manling
03:36 PM on 01/22/2011
How far away is this technology and knowing how environmentalist are also scared of anything radioactive, how likely is it that cold fusion plants are built?
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
04:52 PM on 01/22/2011
Production is slated to begin in 60-90 days.

The radioactivity may prove to be about that of smoke detectors.

In many countries that would hardly be an obstacle.
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Lance Manling
10:41 AM on 01/22/2011
EPA'­s Evaluation of Impacts to Undergroun­d Sources of Drinking Water by Hydraulic Fracturing­.

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/uic/pdfs/cbmstudy_attach_uic_exec_summ.pdf
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Lance Manling
10:41 AM on 01/22/2011
EPA'­s Evaluation of Impacts to Undergroun­d Sources of Drinking Water by Hydraulic Fracturing­.

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/uic/pdfs/cbmstudy_attach_uic_exec_summ.pdf

"Based on the informatio­n collected and reviewed, EPA has concluded that the injection of hydraulic fracturing fluids into CBM wells poses little or no threat to USDWs and does not justify additional study at this time".

Read the first page and see what a scam this is.
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Lance Manling
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angusmciver
Feels Empty
08:11 PM on 01/22/2011
That smells very much like the clean coal promotions.
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Lance Manling
11:50 PM on 01/22/2011
I guess you did not look at the link.
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Lance Manling
02:47 PM on 01/21/2011
Mark Ruffalo offered direct advice for Huffington Post readers - "Get educated, go to NYH20, go to CatskillMountainKeeper.com, go to Damascus Citizens, go to "Gasland. and API at www.api.org"
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xargaw
12:34 PM on 01/21/2011
We do not own the planet. We are supposed to be good stewards of the planet and care for it for those that come after us. We have failed miserably allowing business to trash the place in the name of quick profits.
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Lance Manling
02:37 PM on 01/21/2011
Who owns the planet?
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mrjeremyfisher
10:53 PM on 01/25/2011
Really? Your philosophical and humanistic values are that impaired?
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Lance Manling
12:25 PM on 01/21/2011
The event was "Fracking and Its Effects: A Panel Discussion-Is Mark Ruffalo an expert? If so, what makes him an expert, aside from promoting that documentary?

Sorry, Gasland is the name of the movie.
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mrjeremyfisher
10:51 PM on 01/25/2011
Mark Ruffalo never claimed to be an expert, in fact he said he was not one. However as was stated several times and even in the article above, he moderated and was the star power to attract media interest to focus a light on the particularly sordid little industry of energy companies executing Hydraulic Fracturing. Your industry's claims of innocence and benefits to the community are so reminiscent of the mining companies performing mountain top removal...
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Lance Manling
01:46 PM on 01/27/2011
First-It isn't my industry. Second, did you every notice how environmentalist never speak in terms of specifics but only in generalities?
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Lance Manling
12:12 PM on 01/21/2011
He is a full of hot air and does not understand the science or the issues. I am still waiting for my apology Ruffalo!

For God's sake, please read a science book!
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mrjeremyfisher
10:48 PM on 01/25/2011
Hey, what happens if you never get that apology?? Or maybe when Cuomo kills the fracking project being considered, he'll be willing to give you one.
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Lance Manling
01:47 PM on 01/27/2011
Nothing will happen except when Ruffalo opens is mouth again I will continue to dispute him. Dude, calm down.
12:10 AM on 01/20/2011
Why are you people listening to an actor on geology, engineering, and chemistry? Mark is a good at pretending but he has no education on these topics. None of the claims made against hydraulic fracturing stand up to scientific scrutiny. Fracking dates back to just after WWII and has been refined and applied hundreds of thousands of times in the state that provides the majority of the nation's domestic energy (Texas). I have been a fracking Petroleum Engineer for 27 years and I have never encountered any of these problems. The injection point for frac fluids lies between 1.5 to 2.5 miles below the shallowest fresh water aquifer and is sealed off with at least two concentric strings of pipe, cement, and thousands of feet of shale, limestone, and sand formations. The frac is carefully focused on the productive interval containing the natural gas in order to maximize recovery. These fracs are carefully designed in sophisticated computer models and have been tracked/monitored using using sophisticated surface instruments. The technology is well understood. Even a 30' thick shale can act as a frac barrier due to its high modulus of elasticity and there are thousands of feet of shale between the target formations and the shallow fresh water zones. You are being worked into a frenzy over a non-existent threat. Coincidence does not prove causation. Accusation, speculation, and hysteria leads to junk science. Stop and consider verifiable facts before swallowing every story you hear!
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doublels
say it out loud...I'm a Lib & I'm proud
08:20 AM on 01/20/2011
Perhaps Mr. Ruffalo educated himself on the issue. You DO sound quite knowledgable but....you have ''texas'' in your name. Anything ''texas'' related is always suspect.
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Lance Manling
02:38 PM on 01/21/2011
I don't know how you arrived at that answer. He sounds like the PR for Gasland.
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angusmciver
Feels Empty
10:37 AM on 01/20/2011
That sounds real nice. That drill rig in the Gulf was carefully designed and sophisticated and monitored too and BP said the spill was all but impossible. That is hysterical.
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Lance Manling
10:33 AM on 01/22/2011
Do you think that anything is zero defect?