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Oldest Galaxy Ever Discovered, 13.2 Billion Years Old, According To Astronomers (PHOTOS)

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First Posted: 01/26/11 03:03 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

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WASHINGTON (AP) — An international team of astronomers say they've glimpsed the earliest galaxy yet, a smudge of light from nearly 13.2 billion years ago – a time when the cosmos was a far lonelier place.

The research hasn't been confirmed, and some astronomers are skeptical. The new findings are based on an image from the Hubble Space Telescope and are published in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature. The scientists calculate the new-found galaxy dates to just 480 million years after the Big Bang.

That would trump last fall's announcement by a French team who said they found a galaxy from about 600 million years after the Big Bang. That discovery also is not universally accepted and one of the skeptics is the co-author of the latest paper.

Even more interesting than the advanced age of the newly discovered galaxy is the absence of other similarly aged bright galaxies. That indicates that star formation during that point in the universe's early childhood was happening at a rate 10 times slower than it was millions of years later, said study co-author Garth Illingworth of the University of California Santa Cruz.

Illingworth described what the cosmos might look like at that time period when the universe was smaller and the stars bluer and dimmer.

"It wouldn't be nearly as interesting – a blob here, a blob there," he said in a phone interview.


These handout images, provided by NASA, taken by the Hubble Space Telescope shows the sky in the region of the Hubble Ultra-Deep field taken with the new Wide Field Camera 3 Infra-red imager (WFC3/IR) on HST. This image is the deepest image of the sky ever obtained in the near-infrared, left. Right is the image enhanced showing the galaxy that existed 480 million years after the Big Bang and the position in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF) where it was found. (AP Photo/NASA)

But other astronomers have their doubts about this discovery.

Richard Ellis at the California Institute of Technology is troubled because Illingworth's team originally found three 13.2 billion-year-old galaxies and then withdrew their original study. The authors then came up with an entirely different galaxy, so all that switching "makes it difficult to believe," he said.

Illingworth said originally he and colleagues confused what may have been real light from billions of years ago and background "noise" from the process of looking so far away, so they re-did the study. He said they then found the new galaxy and saw that it was more likely to be real than the previous ones.

"We made a mistake and luckily we had ways to catch it before we went out and it was formally published," said Illingworth whose co-authors included astronomers from the Netherlands and Switzerland.

Ellis and Henry Ferguson of the Space Telescope Science Institute said they were also worried that the Illingworth team only used one of several telescope filters to find this galaxy. They speculated that they might have found an object that's much nearer.

Illingworth acknowledged in his paper that there is a 20 percent chance that the smudge they found is contamination, but "we're pretty sure it's a real object."

Ferguson said Illingworth did "a very good job of making that detection convincing."

The vaunted 20-year-old Hubble telescope has progressively produced images of older and more distant objects. Peering earlier into space will require the more advanced cameras of NASA's new James Webb Space Telescope, Illingworth said. However, it isn't likely to launch until at least 2015.

The farther away a galaxy, the longer it takes for light from it to travel, so seeing the most distant galaxies is like looking back in time. If the new research is correct, light from the newly found galaxy would have traveled 13.2 billion light years to be seen by Hubble.

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07:10 PM on 01/29/2011
It that galaxy is 13.2 billion light years away thus when the picture was taken it was already 13.2 billion years old, wouldn't that make it in our time 26.4 billion years old right now if it even exists anymore? I guess we will have to wait another 13.2 billion years to find out.
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05:44 PM on 01/29/2011
On the subject of astronomy, on January 25th of this year, asteroid 2011 BW11 passed closer to the Earth than 1/3rd the distance to the moon. The asteroid is about 9 meters in diameter, sufficient to have caused a localized catastrophe if it had impacted anywhere near a populated area.
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Ylmaz Kaba
05:29 PM on 01/29/2011
Wi ll we ever have a clear picture of something so old?
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Left on Red
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03:18 PM on 01/29/2011
In the greater scheme of things, this could be huge!
03:35 PM on 01/29/2011
Gotta build a bigger,better telescope.
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
01:17 AM on 01/29/2011
Now...is this before or after the Flintstones and the age of man and dinosaur living together. According to some groups in our country...I thought our world was only 5 or 7 thousand years old. So how is this possible...lol..............Will we ever have a clear picture of something so old?
03:36 PM on 01/29/2011
Ask McCain to send you one.
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
06:02 PM on 01/30/2011
I didn't think John would be among this misguided group that actually believes this garbage;c)
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Das Hirschenhofer 11
Trying to live outside the box;c)
06:05 PM on 01/30/2011
"Garbage" being the actual belief that our world and the universe is only 4 to 7,000 years old. I never understood how anyone could just disregard proven scientific methods?
MGhamma
Reality is 100% biased!
12:00 AM on 01/29/2011
So, if that galaxy was 13 billion light years away 13 billion years ago, that means that the universe was 13 billion light years across 400 million years after the big bang...And what about the far away galaxies we can see in the opposite direction? That would mean that the universe was 20 to 25 billion light years across 400 million years after the big bang.

I think the big bang theory is a big bust.
12:45 AM on 01/29/2011
Can we crown you with the Einsteinian Award for a brilliant observation and intuitiveness? The other living beings on the other side of the universe are looking at our universe and saying the same thing. Go figure.
03:40 PM on 01/29/2011
You're looking at old lightwaves. Who knows what or who is there,or still there. Won't know until they come here or Google comes up with something.
12:49 AM on 01/29/2011
From where did you conclude that "the galaxy was 13 billion light years away 13 billion years ago"? The universe was much smaller 13 billion years ago. Since that time it continued to expand. At a much later time in the future humans turned their telescopes towards that galaxy and caught the light coming from it. The light that left the galaxy 13 billion years ago.
MGhamma
Reality is 100% biased!
07:18 PM on 01/29/2011
If we're seeing a galaxy that's 13 billion light years away, we're seeing light that's 13 billion years old.

400 million years after the big bang.

Even assuming that we're moving away from that galaxy at near the speed of light, that still means that at that time, the universe was 6.5 billion light years across.

400 million years after the big bang.

Which means that the universe would be expanding faster than the speed of light.
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BluePhantom2
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09:58 PM on 01/28/2011
Hubble images always make me take pause to think about everything! Can be some long pause's! Cool pics I have some of the deep field images as my desktop.
01:05 PM on 01/28/2011
This is All Obama's fault
03:25 AM on 01/28/2011
The reason for the skepticism is that these galaxy surveys are huge, and the two galaxies mentioned in the article appear as outliers (in terms of age) in a huge amount of data. Until their existence is confirmed, there is a significant chance that they are artifacts of some malfunction of the instrument. This sort of stuff happens in astronomical surveys all the time. So, no one (including the authors) really believes these results until they are confirmed.
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Veganie
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09:48 PM on 01/27/2011
We were completely taken up by the quality of the pictures.
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Keefe Lehman
03:20 PM on 01/27/2011
Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g&feature=player_embedded
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Keefe Lehman
05:17 PM on 01/27/2011
This is probably the most humbling things I have ever seen. Got to love Carl Sagan.
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Keefe Lehman
03:18 PM on 01/27/2011
What I wounder is if the universe is or at a time was expanding faster than the speed of light would it be possible to look back and see a young Milky-way?
03:29 PM on 01/27/2011
If that was the case you would be on the right track. However scientists believe that it has always been slower than the speed of light.

But even if that was the case we would not be able to see it (only because of a technical reason). Light which was emitted when the Universe was less than 100 000 years old couldn't "go anywhere", and hence can't reach us today. Observationally, this means that when we try to look at higher and higher redshifts, we hit a "wall" corresponding to the redshift when the Universe was 100 000 years old.
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RedDogBear
03:29 PM on 01/27/2011
The universe never was expanding faster than the speed of light. Its a universal speed limit and its impossible to go faster. But it is possible to look back in time since light takes time to travel. Whenever we see stars or galaxies in the night sky we are seeing them as they were years, possibly millions of years, ago.
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GammaRayBurst
04:44 PM on 01/27/2011
Actually space is moving faster than the speed of light. It's called inflation. Inflation theory explains the relative uniformity of the temperature left over from the big bang.
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mathislaw1
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so"-Twain
08:58 PM on 01/27/2011
Actually during the very first moments of the big bang the universe did expand faster than light. The speed of light limit does not apply to space itself.
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Keefe Lehman
03:09 PM on 01/27/2011
I have been reading things on this site for the last two days and have found it is very helpfull when it comes to questions like the one below.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/
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Ed Haskell
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12:02 PM on 01/27/2011
Here is what puzzles me. The universe started from a singularity then rapidly expanded, so it must be finite, have an edge. Logic would say if you were in a galaxy close to the edge you would see nothing in that direction.

But that's not the case - wherever you are, you are as far from the "edge" (if one exists) than anywhere else, and the furthest thing is always going to be 13.2 B light years away. As I understand, this is because, while we see the universe in 3 dimensions as a giant "'globe", it isn't, really. There is a curvature in the fabric of space itself at that scale, and somehow this universal globe is curved, and curved in such a way that there is no edge, and no center - it just seems, internally, to go on forever..

Apparently this curvature is in another dimension. Modern physics - string theory - postulates that there are, if I remember correctly, eleven dimensions. Eleven! I don't know if they're all spatial, or time - probably neither, something else very exotic. But the only way to perceive them is through their effect mathematically.

Oh, and there are an infinite number of universes, and we're just one riding along in this grand cosmic "foam" of universes.

I've tried wrapping my mind around to be able to "see" that and it just isn't happening. Apparently the only way to understand it is mathematically. Is there anyone here who can explain it
12:05 PM on 01/27/2011
You worry too much.
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Ed Haskell
Sometimes too much drink is barely enough...
04:20 PM on 01/27/2011
You're right. The Yoga helps...
01:18 PM on 01/27/2011
It is interesting stuff.
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plzgetreal
They claim Lincoln - But act like McCarthy & Nixon
11:29 AM on 01/27/2011
Wow, God's days are getting longer and longer. No wonder he designated the 7th as the Sabbath and took it off.
03:33 PM on 01/29/2011
Maybe some mathmetician can refigure the length of a day to jive with science.