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Park Service Releases 2,400 Pages Of Dog Walking Rules

Dog Rules

First Posted: 01/27/11 05:58 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

rollcall.com:

On Tuesday night, President Barack Obama promised to streamline government, reorganize agencies and eliminate unnecessary rules to get bureaucracy out of the way of economic growth.

The challenge of that lofty goal is perhaps nowhere better illustrated than in the case of the National Park Service and its attempt to establish rules for dog-walking at San Francisco's Golden Gate National Recreation Area.

Two weeks ago, the park service released a draft environmental impact statement on proposed new rules for dog walkers. The report, years in the making, is 2,400 pages long.

Read the whole story: rollcall.com

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On Tuesday night, President Barack Obama promised to streamline government, reorganize agencies and eliminate unnecessary rules to get bureaucracy out of the way of economic growth. The challenge of ...
On Tuesday night, President Barack Obama promised to streamline government, reorganize agencies and eliminate unnecessary rules to get bureaucracy out of the way of economic growth. The challenge of ...
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11:23 AM on 01/30/2011
2,400 pages is just ridiculous ...
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RRK70
03:16 PM on 01/28/2011
Last summer I was able to walk my dog off lash at Huntington Dog Beach in Huntington, CA.  No problems, scores if not hundreds of people and their dogs.  As for destruction of flora and fauna I've seen  so many kids throw rocks at animals, ducks, geese, tearing plants out of ground, screaming their heads off, yet few leash laws for them.  It's a tragedy of the commons in a sense.  People are also less effectively able to work as large groups, especially when lawyers and politicians are involved.
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Tulka2
Solidarity. Courage. Humor.
02:55 PM on 01/28/2011
My life is all about dogs.  I could not live on this plane without dogs....but.... you must spell things out for most clueless dog owners.  Remember that old saying, "Other peoples' dogs and children"?  Meaning "It's amazing how irritating other peoples' dogs and children are"?  

The people i want to strangle are the ones who keep their dogs off-leash because it is embarrassing to them how completely out of control their dogs are on-leash.  These are the big dogs crashing around off path in the underbrush rousting and terrifying every animal large and small. 

There's another old saying, "She thinks her sh*t does not stink".  That goes double for how some people feel about their dogs.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
02:07 PM on 01/28/2011
how many pages would it take to say, "No dogs allowed!" ? LOL
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satanlite
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01:53 PM on 01/28/2011
I frequent parks and live in an apartment complex. There are many rules to follow when taking your pooping partner out in the urban wilds among other people. After many years of observation I have to say that dog walkers are the most inconsiderate people in the world.
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Anthony Garnett
01:41 PM on 01/28/2011
I wonder how much $$$ and man hour were wasted on a 2,400 page report for a simple problem

From RJKERB08
1) Dogs must be on a leash
2) Dogs must be trained and non-viciou­s
3) Owner must clean up after Dog
4) Dogs shall not be in "No dog areas"
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
01:37 PM on 01/28/2011
And people wonder why government is a failure? This is it in spades!
RJKERB08
But why are you mad?
12:45 PM on 01/28/2011
Something as simple as dog walking should have a one page maximum. I'll re-write those laws now:
1) Dogs must be on a leash
2) Dogs must be trained and non-vicious
3) Owner must clean up after Dog
4) Dogs shall not be in "No dog areas"
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Tulka2
Solidarity. Courage. Humor.
02:49 PM on 01/28/2011
Rule 145: No dog shall carry his own leash. 
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DanniD
12:02 PM on 01/28/2011
Considering all the many factors that should be being addressed within such Rules that will impact much more than just the people walking dogs...2,400 pages isn't too much to read.

Not everything should be able to be summed up in Cliff Notes or Twitter Tweets!
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satanlite
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01:54 PM on 01/28/2011
I imaging there's a lot of white space in there too and images.
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
11:23 AM on 01/28/2011
On page 18302 or the Federal Regulation rules it clearly states rules consultants get paid by the page.
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Mary Karius
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11:05 AM on 01/28/2011
there is nothing to say about how ridiculous this is
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personal beliefs
Things never go according to plan, so plan accordi
10:50 AM on 01/28/2011
San Fran is a complete joke of a city. Over analyze much?
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
12:37 PM on 01/28/2011
Over 90% of the GGNRA is not in San Francisco City, or even in San Francisco County.
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ghee99
12:38 PM on 01/28/2011
this is the city that banned happy meals after all

they obvious love having govt intrude in every little area of the citizens lives

this is what happens when you allow liberals to run free

i mean, isnt this the city that elected nancy pelosi?

i mean, c'mon people

nancy frickin pelosi...

surely you can do better than that?
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:38 PM on 01/28/2011
this is the city that banned happy meals after all
 
Hey, if you Goopers want to weigh 500 lbs, there's nothing to stop you from ordering your kids a trough full of grits.  It just can't be a happy meal.
 
Do you really need a toy with your heart disease creating food habits?
 
they obvious love having govt intrude in every little area of the citizens lives
 
You mean like conservatives saying who people are allowed to marry, or what religions they're allowed to practice, or what medical proceedures women are allowed to have?
 
 
BTW, I love how much right wingers hate Nancy.  It just shows she's a powerful force for good in the world!
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satanlite
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01:55 PM on 01/28/2011
"this is what happens when you allow liberals to run free"
 
lol...I"ll show you what happens...
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khountrygirl
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10:41 AM on 01/28/2011
2,400 pages. How hard can this be?

1. Canine needs to have current rabies shots to enter park.
2. Canine needs to be on leash and owner needs to be in control of canine at all times for the safety of park visitors and wild life.
3. Canine waste is the responsibility of the owner to be picked up and disposed of for the safety and enjoyment of park visitors and wild life.
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Aerows
11:04 AM on 01/28/2011
*Maybe* - *Maybe* - 4. Owner is responsible for all damages caused if they fail to adhere to any of the previous regulations.

You should start writing laws.  The problem is that our courts are littered with corrupt judges and prosecutors that don't want to enforce consequences on those they profit from.  I should be a judge, because I don't care who you are, the consequences should be equal across the board.
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ghee99
12:41 PM on 01/28/2011
dog owner are already held responsible for damage their dog does in san fran (and most other places)

all you have to do is say, the rules for dogs (that already exist in the rest of the city) apply in the park, end of story

but man, oh how liberals do so LOVE to write regulations
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ghee99
12:41 PM on 01/28/2011
true dat
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Aerows
12:48 PM on 01/28/2011
true dat, indeed.
10:09 AM on 01/28/2011
On rule works for all park visitors - Leave it cleaner than you found it.
You (or your pet, family , friends...) make a mess, you clean it up. Period.
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09:51 AM on 01/28/2011
And just how is my dog supposed to "hold it" until he get through reasding the rules?

Now here is a Federal Department that definitely has room for budget cuts.
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jsgaetano
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01:40 PM on 01/28/2011
Right.  Because if conservatives are in charge, the only ones allowed access to our parks will be oil companies and the top 2%.
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satanlite
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01:57 PM on 01/28/2011
They'd still be free. To anyone that can pay  the $300 entry price. But still free.