5-Year-Old Brings Loaded Gun To Moseley Elementary School

A music class at a Palatk, Fla. school got a surprise Tuesday morning when a gun fell out of a 5-year-old student's pocket.

WJXT News reports the child has been suspended from Moseley Elementary School until authorities can investigate.

The .22 caliber handgun was loaded, but there was no round in the chamber. Authorities may press charges against the adult responsible for allowing the gun to get into the child's hands.

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Comments

[FlameOnH8]

01:03 AM on 02/01/2011

The NRA tells kids to no play with guns, but I think they need to focus on telling adults to not keep guns laying around in easy to reach places.

[dvkrlsn]

10:54 AM on 02/01/2011

the NRA does just that--start paying attention

[FlameOnH8]

04:37 PM on 02/01/2011

With the number of incidents like these, they're not doing a very good job of it. But it's not the NRA's fault if parents are dumb.

[reasonshouldrule]

10:51 PM on 01/30/2011

Another "responsible" gun owner, I see.

[Good Googli Moogli]

09:16 AM on 01/31/2011

sad isnt it?

[reasonshouldrule]

11:03 AM on 01/31/2011

Yes, sad and frustrating.

[dvkrlsn]

11:36 AM on 01/31/2011

so, I guess you are good with violating the Constitutionally protected rights of everyone because of an idioy

[reasonshouldrule]

05:46 PM on 01/31/2011

Did I say that? What I said was that there seem to be a fair number of so-called law-abiding, responsible gun owners who let their kids (and sometimes others) get hold of their guns. Frankly, I think this kind of gun-owner imperils everybody's right to own firearms.

[barefoot2626]

07:31 PM on 02/01/2011

q> I guess you are good with violating the
q> Constituti­onally protected rights

The **US** constitution doesn't give people the right to expose others to their own gross negligence and stupidity.

And the **US** constitution does not give any rights to firearms.

Draw a line around your property:  your rights are confined to that.

[my2centsnow]

09:25 PM on 01/30/2011

When someone unknown to you comes charging through your front door at three o'clock in the morning and you have no gun or other weapon, guess who is going to die tonight. Probably not the guy who came thru the front door uninvited and unannounced. It was nice knowing you.

[reasonshouldrule]

10:51 PM on 01/30/2011

First of all, that rarely happens. Second, if it's 3 in the morning, you're probably asleep and by the time you wake up, the intruder will have shot you. Your post is a good example of the absurdity of that line of reasoning (or lack thereof).

[johnny dio]

11:20 PM on 01/30/2011

It's commonly known as "manufacturing fear".

[InYourWorld]

11:41 PM on 01/30/2011

It does happen, regularly.

http://www.riograndesun.com/articles/2011/01/27/cops_courts/doc4d4055676bb6b411998627.txt

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/26561818/detail.html

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110110/NEWS010703/301120002/Burglary-suspect-killed-in-attack

http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=13842808

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/12/AR2011011205914.html

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/palmview-121519-shoots-apparently.html

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Break-in+ends+in+a+fatal+gunshot+in+Warner&articleId=1a8db143-476c-4597-931e-093146d4bfd1

http://www.kmjnow.com/pages/landing_news?Fresno-Burglar-Wounded-by-Homeowner=1&blockID=394858&feedID=806

secondly, I will hear my door broken down, I like the fact I can be somewhat prepared in the unlikely chance this happens. I also carry insurance on my car, house, and possessions in event something happens.

[barefoot2626]

09:13 PM on 01/31/2011

q> , guess who is going to die tonight.

When you come home and in a bad mode tonight, guess who is going to die tonight?  Your wife?

Women are killed by their husbands and their boyfriends, not by burglars.

[Josh Hudson]

01:41 PM on 02/01/2011

husbands, boyfriends, and even kids are all too often killed by the women in their lives as well...

[Mike Tartaglia]

08:47 PM on 01/30/2011

i think this just shows we need more guns. if all the kindergardeners at Moseley were given permits to carry concealed weapons and armed, this wouldn't have happened.

i mean, clearly, nothing is wrong with our current guns laws and the easy access people have to weapons.

[reasonshouldrule]

10:52 PM on 01/30/2011

I love good snark!

[Rooster Coburn]

01:04 AM on 01/31/2011

Since we're discussing guns in school it's refreshing to learn that just because a person is an English professor at SUNY (State Univ. of New Yawk), one doesn't have to be rabidly anti-self defense. The following was found on the Internet, reference available.

"Faculty Carry Posted by ArmedProf , Professor, Dept. of English at SUNY on January 28, 2011 at 9:45am EST I've carried for years. If it's concealed, how is anyone going to know? RIght now I'm in my office with a Sig 238 and 2 extra mags loaded w/hollowpoints. I don't intend to be a victim, like many professors over the years (Arkansas, Iowas State, Va. Tech, etc....), and I don't want my students to become victims either. I have had permits in several states, was an officer in the US Army, etc.... but some pacifists in the legislature or the admin building are going to curtail my rights? I don't think so."

[barefoot2626]

07:39 PM on 02/01/2011

q> If it's concealed, how is anyone going to know?

I guess if it is heroin, then how is anyone going to know?

Difference:  drop a bag of heroin, it doesn't go off and kill somebody.

[Rooster Coburn]

12:27 PM on 01/30/2011

We need "Eddie Eagle" in every school in America now!  http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/

If you see a gun:
STOP!
Don't Touch.
Leave the Area.
Tell an Adult.

[johnny dio]

12:47 PM on 01/30/2011

Clinical study indicates that such education in no way curtails children's inclination to view guns as playthings, and, in, fact, further stimulates their impulses to treat them as such.

[itschuck2c]

12:50 PM on 01/30/2011

Can you steer me to said studies?

[OdinsEye]

06:24 PM on 01/30/2011

Your "clinical study" has been pretty soundly refuted.

[barefoot2626]

09:17 PM on 01/31/2011

q> We need "Eddie Eagle"

Already proved to be completely ineffective-  for kids  who might pick up a gun- outside of being a publicity stunt paid for our NRA friends.

Better prospects:  a kid who shows up at school with his parent's gun? More effective?  Put the parent in jail for 6 months.

[Josh Hudson]

01:43 PM on 02/01/2011

yep...that will teach that kid the difference between right and wrong...

[Ariel Bonzai]

12:01 PM on 01/30/2011

So the CA teacher in exile from classroom that called cops when 2nd grader was making death threat is in the clear?

[unity13]

10:22 AM on 01/30/2011

I can think of one stepdad that shouldn't have the right to bear arms.

[InYourWorld]

09:56 PM on 01/30/2011

or children

[unity13]

10:36 PM on 01/30/2011

Thanks, I laughed out loud.

[itschuck2c]

10:12 AM on 01/30/2011

Florida Statute 790.174, Parents are at fault in this case.

Safe storage of firearms required.
—(1)
A person who stores or leaves, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm, as defined in s. 790.001, and who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor’s parent or the person having charge of the minor, or without the supervision required by law, shall keep the firearm in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure or shall secure it with a trigger lock, except when the person is carrying the firearm on his or her body or within such close proximity thereto that he or she can retrieve and use it as easily and quickly as if he or she carried it on his or her body.
(2)
It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor’s parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law:
(a)
In a public place; or
(b)
In a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner in violation of s. 790.10.
This subsection does not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.
1(3)
As used in this act, the term “minor” means any person under the age of 16.

[novabird]

06:36 AM on 01/30/2011

People from other countries who live extremely healthy, happy, safe lives without guns in their homes cannot understand the American sick obsession with loaded weapons and gun culture.

[johnny dio]

10:41 AM on 01/30/2011

People from America cannot understand how people from other countries can live without the God-Given Freedom to protect themselves against Tyranny, or to bravely and selflessly defend Innocent Life, also, too.

[PCPrincess]

10:56 AM on 01/30/2011

Wrong. I'm from America and I not only understand, I relish the way other countries have moved beyond the need for guns and wish we in this country could move beyond all the fear-mongering and propaganda perpuated by the billion dollar industry that USES the Constitution in order to reach people like yourself. Pat yourself on the back, for you are one of the many who have bought their 'sell' and have enabled, not only the firearms makers and dealers to laugh all the way to the bank, but the ability for any nutball or 5 year to carry a concealed and loaded weapon. It takes courage to see the truth and to admit it. It is not we who do not understand our forefathers, we see things clearly and are able to change with the times. I fear for my loved ones who must live in a country so eager to sell out it's own people in order to feel important with steel in their pockets.

[PCPrincess]

11:00 AM on 01/30/2011

If I misunderstood your position, I apologize!! I am a bit puzzled on which side of the fence you are on after seeing a couple other posts..

[OdinsEye]

06:27 PM on 01/30/2011

Have you been to "other countries"? I have. I have shot and hunted in many of them with the locals. Many have expressed great admiration for our Second Amendment.

[johnny dio]

07:07 PM on 01/30/2011

Have you, in your "travels", ever associated with people who are not part of gun culture?

[enlightened45]

07:38 PM on 01/30/2011

I have traveled to over 50 countries and have never seen a firearm......WTF are you talking about?

[Ascoli]

06:19 AM on 01/30/2011

Having relatives in the USA.......I'm disgusted at how they're taught to love guns from day 1.

[eljefefx]

10:14 AM on 01/30/2011

Broad and baseless generalization.

[Chopin]

01:14 PM on 01/30/2011

Thanks for pointing out an important element in the marketing and promotion of gun culture --
mass social, cultural and psychological conditioning, in other words brainwashing.

[maab76]

07:09 PM on 01/30/2011

Any time our country has been at war, children chose to "play the game" of war - boys in particular. As former city dwellers, we insisted that our children be able to play that game, but to do so with obviously "toy" guns - red, orange, obviously plastic, etc. We continued that to our grandson whose friend's dad, the police chief has an awesome collection of the real things. Lately the toys available look more and more like the real thing. I am adamant that children be able to play-out their interpretations and feelings about war and our participation in it. I would like a lot more cooperation from the manufactures of "look alike" guns though so that our kids aren't killed for having too authentic a fake gun for play. Please, more red, yellow and orange plastic guns for the kids. Get rid of the silver and black models, please!

[CarmanK]

01:07 AM on 01/30/2011

And this is in the same state which wants to pass a law making it a felony for a pediatrician to ask parents if there is a Gun in the house. Imagine that! the adult needs to be fined for such careless disregard for the child's well being. Suppose that gun had off, when the child picked it up-he could have been killed and obviously he could have killed others very easily. It is pathetic that the fringe gun lobby would rather kill a child than have reasonable expectations that a society needs to make reasonable laws which keep guns out of the hands of children, criminals and mentally ill people.

[Rooster Coburn]

04:48 PM on 01/30/2011

It is already against the law in Florida to leave a gun where a minor may access it without restraint.

[johnny dio]

05:42 PM on 01/30/2011

Are unenforced laws effective deterrents, in your estimation?

[Mike Tartaglia]

08:48 PM on 01/30/2011

yep so no clearly no responsibility lies with a legislature that also has guns laws lax enough to allow for these clearly unfit parents to have guns around their kids?

[InYourWorld]

12:03 AM on 01/31/2011

Why is it any business to a pediatrician? guns in the house kill less children than swimming pools at home, and there are WAY more guns than pools.

[mad lib]

12:39 AM on 01/30/2011

What? What? There's no gun problem in the USA!

[Ozy]

11:28 PM on 01/29/2011

I thought the NRA only recruited 6 year to 12 olds ?

[dvkrlsn]

11:35 AM on 01/30/2011

Ozy--how about facts instead of snarky rants

[johnny dio]

11:41 AM on 01/30/2011

What is "Eddie Eagle", if not a recruitment device aimed at children?

[Chopin]

11:17 PM on 01/29/2011

First, let's establish the definition­s of "pathology­" and "pathologi­cal":--

Pathology is the study and diagnosis of disease. The word pathology is from Greek πάθος, pathos, "feeling, suffering"­; and -λογία, -logia.

Definition of "pathologi­cal":
Merriam-We­bster:--
1 of or relating to pathology
2 altered or caused by disease; also : indicative of disease
3 being such to a degree that is extreme, excessive, or markedly abnormal

Dictionary­.com :--
1. of or pertaining to pathology.
2. caused by or involving disease; morbid.
3. caused by or evidencing a mentally disturbed condition: a pathologic­al liar.
4. dealing with diseases: a pathologic­al casebook.

[Chopin]

11:04 PM on 01/29/2011

Whether a person acquires, keeps or uses a gun are single acts of behavior. It's not pathology as such. But when collective behavior of a nation of 300 million people acquiring hundreds of millions of guns, and as CONSEQUENC­E of the aggregate behavior leading to profusion of deadly weapons so accessible­, thirty thousand (30,000) deaths yearly result from this aggregate collective societal behavior, a social scientist, or physician, or moral philosophe­r looks at this phenomenon­, it's inescapabl­e conclusion and diagnosis of this collective societal behavior as epidemic aberrant behavior, bordering on collective suicide by instalment­s. In this context, the collective behavior of this society is PATHOLOGIC­AL. This level of perennial loss of human lives by guns in any nation is ABNORMAL by any scientific and moral standards in this 21st century global human community.

Death by gun of one person is personal tragedy. Deaths by guns of 30,000 are statistica­lly an epidemic. If this were malaria, a vaccine would've been found and prescribed to cure it. If this were defective automobile model, it would've been recalled. But when it applies to guns, many Americans woolly headedly sanctify it to be a "constitut­ional right" rather than an epidemic societal disease that it is. THAT is irrational societal attitude and PATHOLOGIC­AL societal behavior.

[novabird]

06:43 AM on 01/30/2011

"Pathological and abnormal" - yes, I agree! Canadians can see this very clearly when they observe the irrational, extreme rhetoric around American gun culture. In Canada even the conservative rural hunters who own guns are sickened by stories like this.

[Rooster Coburn]

10:22 AM on 01/30/2011

Over half of these deaths are the result of suicide, and nations with very strict gun control laws like Japan, Russia and South Korea have higher suicide rates than the USA.

[johnny dio]

10:43 AM on 01/30/2011

The unwillingness to recognize gun-enabled suicides as "deaths by guns" is indicative of the pathology to which the poster refers.

[CBsez]

12:42 PM on 01/30/2011

You have to admit though, guns do make it easier. For instance, in the U.S, male adolescents commit suicide at a rate five times greater than that of female adolescents, although suicide attempts by females are three times as frequent as those by males. The reason? The method of attempted suicide for males is typically that of – you guessed it - firearm use, with a 78-90% chance of fatality. Females are more likely to try drugs or poison.
Same logic applies to domestic violence. Where there are weapons in the home, the risk of homicide by a spouse, lover or relative increases by 7.2 times. Having a gun in the home makes it three times more likely that you or someone you care about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner.
Having said all that, I am a gun-owner, but I know a ton of folks I would never ever want to have a gun in their possession.