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US Official To Face Murder Charge In Pakistan

Pakistan Murder

BABAR DOGAR   01/28/11 08:29 PM ET   AP

LAHORE, Pakistan — Pakistan will pursue murder charges against a U.S. consular employee suspected of shooting two armed men during a possible robbery attempt, a prosecutor said Friday as protesters called for the American to be severely punished.

The killings in this bustling city on Thursday have attracted intense media coverage in Pakistan, and the government – already viewed by some critics as being subservient to the United States – will be under pressure to allow the law to run its course.

Many Pakistanis already regard the U.S. with suspicion or enmity because of its occupation of neighboring Afghanistan and regular missile attacks against militant targets in Pakistan's northwest. Islamist and rightwing opponents of Washington and the U.S.-allied government here said the incident was a further example of American brutality.

In a sign of the political sensitivities surrounding the case, Interior Minister Rehman Malik was asked by a lawmaker in parliament whether he was trying to set the American free. "I will never abet a criminal," replied Malik.

A third Pakistani was killed following the shootings when he was hit by a U.S. vehicle rushing to aid the American, who was also in a car, according to police. Officers have said the driver of that could also face charges.

Police officer Umar Saeed said the American, who has not been named by U.S. authorities, had told officers he had withdrawn money from an ATM shortly before the incident and was acting in self-defense. Other Pakistani officers have said the men were likely robbers, were on a motorbike and both were carrying pistols.

Rana Bakhtiar, deputy prosecutor general for Punjab, said the state would pursue murder charges.

"He has killed two men. A case is registered against him on murder charges," he said.

Bakhtiar spoke after the American appeared in a Lahore court where judges ordered him to remain in police custody for six days. Police will now investigate the case before filing it with the court, which will then charge him.

The man has been named by Pakistani officials but the U.S. State Department says the name is incorrect.

Although the U.S. Embassy has not said what position the man held at the consulate in Lahore, why he was armed or whether he qualifies for diplomatic immunity, the U.S. is claiming that the man holds immunity.

U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the legal case is pending said the U.S. has asserted the man's immunity in discussions with Pakistan and sought access to the man by U.S. Embassy personnel. The U.S. is trying to free the man quickly, officials said.

Western diplomats travel with armed guards in many parts of Pakistan because of the risk of militant attack. Lahore has seen frequent terrorist bombings and shootings over the last two years, though the city's small expatriate population has not been directly targeted.

In a two-sentence statement, the U.S. Embassy confirmed that a consulate staffer "was involved in an incident yesterday that regrettably resulted in the loss of life." The U.S. was working with Pakistanis to "determine the facts and work toward a resolution," it said.

In the capital, Islamabad, and the city of Karachi, several dozen people burned U.S. flags and chanted slogans.

"Hang the U.S. spy, the killer of three Pakistanis," read one placard.

The issue of American diplomats or their security details carrying weapons inside Pakistan was a hot-button subject last year among certain politicians and sections of the media purportedly worried about the country's sovereignty. They were frequently presented as a threat to ordinary Pakistanis.

"The Americans feel they can kill any Pakistani that they want, because the blood of Pakistanis is cheap for the Americans," said Shireen Mazari, a prominent rightwing commentator.

Despite the sensitivities of the case, it seems unlikely either country will allow it to seriously affect ties because the relationship is vital for both. Washington needs Pakistan's support to stabilize Afghanistan and defeat al-Qaida, while Islamabad relies heavily on U.S. aid and diplomatic support.

Robbers on motorbikes pulling up alongside cars and holding them up is a common crime in Pakistani cities.

Americans and other foreigners have also been frequently targeted by Islamist militants in Pakistan.

In the northwestern city of Peshawar in 2008, gunmen shot and killed a U.S. aid worker as he drove to work. Suspected militants also opened fire on the vehicle of the top American diplomat in the city the same year, but she survived the attack.

Also Friday, a car bomb in northwest Pakistan killed five people and wounded 19.

The blast occurred in the Kohat tunnel, a busy thoroughfare that connects the main northwest city of Peshawar to southern Khyber Paktunkhwa, Punjab and Sind provinces, said police official Mujahid Khan.

Northwest Pakistan has witnessed numerous bombings over the past several years. Most are believed linked to al-Qaida and Taliban-led militant groups.

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Michael Valentine
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09:51 AM on 02/09/2011
This smells bad.
02:43 AM on 02/01/2011
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This private contractor is in breach of local law, he will need to go through the normal legal channels like anybody else in such a terrible predicament

t is not right that he is sprung from jail because of US pressure
01:18 PM on 01/31/2011
Pretty much buried in the West, this story is very big in Pakistan.
From 2 days ago:
"Though the U.S. State Department and Pakistani officials are at odds over the identity of a U.S. consular employee accused of killing two Pakistani men, private security officer Raymond Davis was involved in the incident, sources told ABC News today."

"Davis, a "technical adviser" to the U.S. government whose record shows experience in the U.S. Special Forces, is accused of shooting two men who were apparently attempting to rob him Thursday in Lahore. A third Pakistani man was killed when a vehicle struck him while reportedly racing to the American's aid."

Then u have this little ditty:

"After denying the man's name is Raymond Davis, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley would not say who accused government employee is, in what capacity he worked for the embassy or why he was apparently carrying a firearm."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lahore-shooting-raymond-davis-american-official-involved-shooting/story?id=12785027

Well judging from similar acts of "Private security personnel" im sure we all believe the U$ claim
12:43 PM on 01/31/2011
It is yet to be established if the American was indeed a diplomat or not and if he could claim immunity. Let the process of law take its due course. In any case, readers would find interesting that in 1997, US court stripped the diplomatic immunity of a Georgian diplomat who involved was in a traffic accident running over and killing an American. Georgian diplomat was sentenced to serve 7 - 21 years in US prison (http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/20/us/envoy-is-sentenced-to-prison-in-fatal-crash.html?ref=gueorguimakharadze).
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02:31 AM on 01/31/2011
The Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations is very clear on this matter. Pakistan can ASK the US to waive immunity, or they can expel the diplomat. That he has even been detained is a clear violation!

Unfortunately, we need Pakistan as an ally, and they are already in a fractured state. A state that might not survive this incident if they acquiesce to our demands. All things considered, I would NOT want to be in the State Department leadership or the White House with this in the table.

Whatever choice we make, it will have negative and long lasting ramifications.

If we allow this prosecution and subsequent execution to occur, we will set a precedent that other hostile nations will certainly take advantage of.

If we demand his release, or take action to secure his release, we will lose a valuable theater of operation and empower an already entrenched enemy (Taliban) within a nuclear state.

Like I said, no easy solution....
01:38 PM on 01/31/2011
The convention is clear that is correct. But i don't like this paragraph…

"After denying the man's name is Raymond Davis, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley would not say who accused government employee is, in what capacity he worked for the embassy or why he was apparently carrying a firearm."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/lahore-shooting-raymond-davis-american-official-involved-shooting/story?id=12785027
01:40 PM on 01/31/2011
Besides this the drones and reports that there are many private clandestine individuals are present in P@k|$tan doesn't really help. The same individuals that were allowed in through an apparently secret pact in 2006 with wait for it…….. A dictator!!!

Look up Scahill's reporting on this
11:44 PM on 01/30/2011
If he has diplomatic immunity then he must be released, unless his home country removes that immunity. It is as simple as that. Diplomacy cannot exist absent protection for diplomats.
10:38 PM on 01/30/2011
The diplomat should be held to the same standard as any 18 year old US soldier
05:40 PM on 01/30/2011
Something doesn’t add up on this situation! Specifically, the reporting of the facts on this incident is suspiciously inconsistent. It appears that the shooter was “U.S. consular employee” who may have actually been a "contractor" working for Blackwater, Xe or some other shadowy firm like that. Moreover one blog by a Pakistani writer stated that the U.S. shooter actually pursued two of the individuals with his car and shot them at a place that was some distance from the point where they were encountered. Such facts, if true, would contradict the initial position that this ”consular employee” was acting in “self defense.”

Blackwater (Xe) agents again kill pakistanis in broad-daylight!
US official guns down two motorcyclists in Lahore
http://defenceforumindia.com/showthread.php?t=18630&page=1

US activates diplomatic channel for immunity
http://epaper.dawn.com/ArticleText.aspx?article=29_01_2011_001_016

Lahore shootout: Spy rendezvous gone bad?
By Jeff Stein | January 27, 2011; 3:10 PM ET
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2011/01/lahore_shootout_spy_rendezvous.html
01:29 PM on 01/30/2011
on August 5, 2009, Inspector Hakim Khan of Islamabad Police was passing through a checkpost near the US Embassy along with his wife in a private car, he was stopped by a US security official John Arso and was abused. Once the police inspector told the US official that the latter could not check vehicles on a public road, the US diplomat took out his pistol and said that he could do anything anywhere in Pakistan.

According to a media report, it was considered to get John Arso declared persona non grata and the matter was also referred to the Foreign Office but before the FO could proceed on the matter, the Islamabad Police high ups and the US Embassy resolved the matter by reaching compromise

In yet another incident, on August 12, 2009 a young Pakistani boy, living in the Diplomatic Enclave, along with his two friends was passing through a private security checkpost near the US Embassy on a Suzuki car when a US Marine, who was jogging along with his wife, on the same road, stopped the car and broke it side mirror by kicking at it.

The Marine, the report said, also abused the boy and the host country too. The young boy and his friends protested following which the US Marine got them detained by the local security guards present there. They were allowed to go after 40 minutes of detention but only with caution that they would never drive again on that particular road.
01:26 PM on 01/30/2011
Regarding Diplomatic Immunity

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=3629&Cat=13&dt=1/29/2011

"He holds a diplomatic passport but not a diplomatic visa, which guarantees diplomatic immunity under the UN conventions. The last page of his passport has the State Department’s endorsement that the officer is on a diplomatic assignment but Pakistani Embassy in Washington did not issue him a diplomatic visa."

This is not the 1st time, US and foreign embassy personnel have been found breaking Pakistani Law.

"there have been repeated incidents of American officials/diplomats carrying weapons in public. According to an intelligence report, published by The News, on June 23, 2009 a double cabin vehicle coming from the NWFP side passed through a police checkpost at Golra where the police tried to stop it for checking but it did not stop. The police passed on a wireless message to the next checkpost considering it a suspicious vehicle. It was intercepted at a check post at Khyber Chowk, G-9/4.

The report said that three American diplomats namely Jeffery, Jeffdic and James Bill Koeen and a driver named Charlie Benzic belonging to Regional Security Section of the US Embassy were found in the vehicle. They were wearing Shalwar Kameez, had beards, were in Pathan get-up and carrying four M-4 machine guns and four 9 mm pistols. The report, however, said that on the intervention of the then SP Sadar, the vehicle was allowed to go.
02:08 AM on 01/30/2011
From poor to rich, educated to illiterate, clerks to officers, shop keepers to businessmen and from every part of Pakistan there is singular take of Pakistanis on the matter of Raymond Davis, the American offiicial who was arrested in Lahore after he killed three people.

Pakistanis want that justice should be done to Raymond Davis.
http://www.pakspectator.com/what-common-pakistanis-are-thinking-about-raymond-davis/
Pakistanis are abhorring the fact that America is demanding the immediate release of Raymond and the pressure America is putting on Punjab and federal government. If Raymond Davis is innocent and he killed the Pakistanis in his self-defense or if he has got diplomatic immunity then ok, courts will release him. Why all that fuss about it? America who is such a huge champion of law and human rights must not act like a bully.

Pakistan is not a banana republic and at least, to be fair, PML-N government in Punjab has got the track record of not bowing in front of American pressure. We have the example of atomic explosion. We hope and expect that PML-N would keep their record unblemished and would support rule of law.
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09:10 PM on 01/30/2011
Pakistan isn't exactly a model of law and order, and anyone who thinks that Raymond Davis would get a fair trial is being naive. It's too bad that diplomats have a need to carry guns in order to protect themselves from so many in the population who would want nothing more than to kill them.
01:53 PM on 01/31/2011
Now now… Let's not talk about who is a paragon of international law and who isn't… Very very shaky ground and all that….

"It's too bad that diplomats have a need to carry guns in order to protect themselves from so many in the population who would want nothing more than to kill them."

He was alone, his diplomatic status is under question, he is a "Private Security Personnel", in 2006 there was an agreement with a certain dictator (shocking) to allow special ops and private guards to enter the country….

So before we get all highbrow and throw around holier than thou rhetoric, we should keep in mind what similar guards did in Iraq, have done in Afghanistan, have done before in Pakistan AND that major embarrassment underway in 3gypt
01:32 AM on 01/31/2011
"Pakistan is not a banana republic"

Ahh ... but the U.S. is. You see the problem? How to deal with a banana republic?
09:48 PM on 01/29/2011
No way will this guy be charged with murder. Any minute now the State Department will claim he has diplomatic immunity.
01:56 PM on 01/31/2011
Yeap. Their not giving his "real" name nor are they confirming his diplomatic status.

This has incensed the right wing "religious" parties in the country though who have vowed to take out demos.

And your right he will be released soon.

I've really starting to hate these "Coincidences"…..
06:50 PM on 01/29/2011
If he, indeed, is a consular employee, then he would have had at least one guard armed with an AK 47 in the vehicle. I know this because I have traveled, many times, with high level individuals in Pakistan. In addition, the windows would be reinforced so as to protect from light fire. I don't understand why the "official" took matters into his own hands. Something doesn't fit here. Most likely this individual is not a diplomat, but rather an employee of a private security firm. This is also consistent with the renegade who killed the civilian when he came to the "rescue" of the suspect. The US government should not protect this person from prosecution.
02:38 PM on 01/29/2011
I can seriously understand why the U.S. Embassy is so desperate to get this guy away from he Pakistanis. We outsourced a lot of our enhanced interrogation work to the Pakistanis because they are so good at There is not telling what he might wind up confessing though the Embassy must have a good idea.
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07:45 PM on 01/29/2011
"Enhanced interrogation work"!? LOL...very diplomatically worded, socal!
02:06 PM on 01/29/2011
It is reported that the US is seeking his release & claiming diplomatic immunity which suggests they do not want him interviewed. Is there a possibility of drug-induced illusion in this case? Pictures of Davis show him subdued & not under restraint by Pakistani police.
Ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12316078
08:19 AM on 01/30/2011
Please look at the picture in the link you provided. It clearly shows that Mr. Davis is chained to the Pakistani official beside him.
09:50 PM on 01/30/2011
That does appear to be a gate-type chain - was not a familiar method of rhuman estraint to me - nevertheless 'Raymond Davis' does appear to be hung over from something & my main point is that the US does not want him tried for serious offences. ~