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BOB SALSBERG   01/28/11 11:36 PM ET   AP

WALTHAM, Mass. — An alcohol-detection prototype that uses automatic sensors to instantly gauge a driver's fitness to be on the road has the potential to save thousands of lives, but could be as long as a decade away from everyday use in cars, federal officials and researchers said Friday.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood visited QinetiQ North America, a Waltham, Mass.-based research and development facility, for the first public demonstration of systems that could measure whether a motorist has a blood alcohol content at or above the legal limit of .08 and – if so – prevent the vehicle from starting.

The technology is being designed as unobtrusive, unlike current alcohol ignition interlock systems often mandated by judges for convicted drunken drivers. Those require operators to blow into a breath-testing device before the car can operate.

The Driver Alcohol Detection Systems for Safety, as the new approach is called, would use sensors that would measure blood alcohol content in one of two possible ways: either by analyzing a driver's breath or through the skin, using sophisticated touch-based sensors placed strategically on steering wheels and door locks, for example.

Both methods eliminate the need for drivers to take any extra steps, and those who are sober would not be delayed in getting on the road, researchers said.

The technology is "another arrow in our automotive safety quiver," said LaHood, who emphasized the system was envisioned as optional equipment in future cars and voluntary for auto manufacturers.

David Strickland, head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, also attended the demonstration and estimated the technology could prevent as many as 9,000 fatal alcohol-related crashes a year in the U.S., though he also acknowledged that it was still in its early testing stages and might not be commercially available for 8-10 years.

The systems would not be employed unless they are "seamless, unobtrusive and unfailingly accurate," Strickland said.

The initial $10 million research program is funded jointly by NHTSA and the Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety, an industry group representing many of the world's car makers.

Critics, such as Sarah Longwell of the American Beverage Institute, a restaurant trade association, doubt if the technology could ever be perfected to the point that it would be fully reliable and not stop some completely sober people from driving.

"Even if the technology is 99.9 percent reliable, that's still tens of thousands of cars that won't start every day," said Longwell. Her group also questions whether an .08 limit would actually be high enough to stop all drunken drivers, since blood alcohol content can rise in people during a trip depending on factors such as how recently they drank and how much they ate.

"It's going to eliminate the ability of people to have a glass of wine with dinner or a beer at a ball game and then drive home, something that is perfectly safe and currently legal in all 50 states," she said.

LaHood disputed that the technology would interfere with moderate social drinking, and said the threshold in cars would never be set below the legal limit.

In Friday's demonstration, a woman in her 20s weighing about 120 pounds drank two, 1 1/2 ounce glasses of vodka and orange juice about 30 minutes apart, eating some cheese and crackers in between to simulate a typical social setting, said Bud Zaouk, director of transportation safety and security for QinetiQ.

Using both the touch-based and breath-based prototypes, the woman registered a .06 blood alcohol content, Zaouk said, so she would be able to start the car.

Laura Dean Mooney, president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the technology could "turn cars into the cure."

While she did not foresee the alcohol detection system ever being mandated by the government, Mooney, whose husband died in an accident caused by a drunken driver 19 years ago, said she could envision it someday becoming as ubiquitous as air bags or anti-lock brakes in today's cars, particularly if insurance companies provide incentives for drivers to use those systems by discounting premiums.

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09:34 PM on 01/29/2011
Do you think Dick Cheney will live long enough to own one of these cars?
03:48 PM on 01/29/2011
Who would buy such a car?
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
04:39 PM on 01/29/2011
I have NO idea!
09:34 PM on 01/29/2011
They will be standard thanks to MADD!! Just think of all those parking lots at bars and restaurants between 2am-5am packed with cars full of drunks waiting for their vehicle to start. It will give a whole new meaning to tailgating!! Perhaps there will be a whole new industry of liquids to drink that will fool the required breathalyzer. Now there's something in which to invest!
03:40 PM on 01/29/2011
Quit it already!!
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jerryjerry5959
LIFE--Good and bad days. Just have more good ones
03:39 PM on 01/29/2011
Well, I'll have the valet open the door and then wear gloves when I drive erratically.
Seriously, they have alot of work to do perfecting the system. I can just see the recalls, with people stranded at bars and restaurants, picnics,ballgames etc. Toyota needs to really get it perfect.
02:46 PM on 01/29/2011
great, more govt mandates on the way

i'm sure this technology will work just fine

not like if i someone spills a drink on their lap, and then the fumes hours later keep their car from starting

sounds like all sorts of fun
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stoneythecattledog
02:40 PM on 01/29/2011
I was an OSHA-trained safety officer during the later years of my military career, and we were briefed that at least one out of every ten drivers on the road were impaired at any given time. During major holidays (and the Super Bowl) it jumps up to one out of every five. Pretty scary when you think about it.
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Mike Sprinkel
01:37 PM on 01/29/2011
There's two types of people - those that like driving drunk, and those that don't. Neither group desires this system in their vehicle. The former because it interrupts their lifestyle, the latter because it's simply one more thing to break and need repair. It's beyond me why a car company would waste money on even pondering this idea.
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
02:08 PM on 01/29/2011
I've always said that automotive engineers sit around a big table laughing their a---s off while designing cars. - "Let's see 'em try to fix that on their own". When I was a kid, I could repair almost anything on my 1960's era cars. Certainly not the case now.
03:51 PM on 01/29/2011
That's my question, who would even want to buy such a car. At present, such a device is a punishment, not a desirable option.
01:31 PM on 01/29/2011
This is interesting but has some serious downfalls. Does it recognize mouthwash? Another excuse for being late to work.... What if someone has a drink or two and then has to respond to something immediate requiring their car...or they have to get away from someone who may be a threat? Just one major step closer to a completely controlled sober Orwellian society.
02:48 PM on 01/29/2011
true

welcome to the new bushobama govt controlled, patriotic world
01:24 PM on 01/29/2011
what happened to my comment about my father being killed by a drunk driver?
dont tell me the mods deemed it inappropriate :(
01:10 PM on 01/29/2011
"using sophisticated touch-based sensors placed strategically on steering wheels and door locks, for example."

I predict this will work until some super-smart elite hacker drunk invents something that will be known as "gloves" in the future. Why is it that no idea is too intrusive or m*ronic if it's "for the children"? Even if this does work, how far do we go? Maybe something that detects marijuana in the car and calls the cops? Maybe something that detects cursing in the car when children are present and calls child services?

Jimminy Christmas, people, just call a cab. It's not that complicated.
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geo999
"Well, who's gonna monitor the monitors?"
12:53 PM on 01/29/2011
Friends don't let friends use hand sanitizer before driving.
12:27 PM on 01/29/2011
I was walking home from the bar the other night when a car equipped with this device hit me as I was crossing the road. Those devices really pinpoint drunks.
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mac33z
The truth will out.
12:18 PM on 01/29/2011
The work-arounds should be interesting
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camanokat
Outta this world
01:14 PM on 01/29/2011
It took 30 seconds to figure out that wearing gloves will prevent the skin sensors from working. I'll bet you could jury-rig some kind of a gas mask to fool the breath sensors.
12:02 PM on 01/29/2011
Another Hilarious Aspect of this Newest "Nanny State Technology"?

Its..Complete..Lack..Of.."REALITY"!

From Its "Testing".."Functions"..and Specifically..the "Debate"..Regarding Such Overt Corporate Surveillance And Control.

So..Gee-Whiz..As We All..Know.."Alcohol's The Only Method Of Becoming Intoxicated!"

So..Lets See..From "Pharmaceuticals".."Other Drugs".."Narcotics".."Marijuana"..to..Heck..How About Significant Problems Of Existing "Sniffers" to Provide "False Positives" for..Ta-Daa.."DIABETICS"?

I Mean its not as if there's really any "Other Issue" beyond: Just Acquiring The New "Forced Acceptance" Legislation Formats..for their Corporate Product..After All..Its Never A Question of.."REALITY" Anymore..but..Only of:

"Making Sure Its A No Option-Option For All Drivers"!

But for me..arrogant as this sounds..perhaps the.."Only Recreational Legalization Of Marijuana Realist In The Nation"..the Funniest part about this..is the Fact..Not Only "Ignored" by the "Advocates" of Marijuana Privatization (oops..Legalization..sorry)..but Also.."Used" By Them As..Inexplicably..a "Reverse Scare Tactic":

"Less People Will be Arrested For Marijuana Use While Driving If Its Legal".

Oh..so..I Guess this Idea of "Scent"..Umm.."Isn't".the.."Issue"?

So..Wait? What..Is..the Issue?

So..Apparently if you "Smell Like A Controlled Substance and Its On Your Breath..Cops Won't Bother You..And Yer Car Will Start"

Okay!

The..Reality is Once again..Ignored!

The "Debate"..Simply "Avoids" Sticky Complications in a race to "Force Acceptance" of yet another Hyper-Intrusive Form Of "Technological Control"!

Thats Real.."Smart"..Technology!
11:42 AM on 01/29/2011
They should just revoke your driving license if you're convicted of DUI. Six months for the first offense, five years for the second offense, and permanently for the third offense. If cars need any additional technology, it should be a means of ensuring that driver is licensed and authorized to drive this car.

The United States has some of the lightest penalties for DUI in the world, and some of the most severe penalties in the world for alcohol-related motor accidents involving casualties. The vengeance motive outweighs the prevention motive in our justice system. If we had more substantial penalties for simple DUI, then maybe we wouldn't have so many grieving widows and orphans in traffic court.
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ls1z28chris
We're on the side of the demons, chief.
12:00 PM on 01/29/2011
A lot of states are getting tougher. Here in Georgia the penalties are about what you suggest on a per offense basis. Judges can allow permits so that people can drive to and from work or child care, but those are usually only given to first offenders. They've also increased the time a DUI stays on your record from five years to 10.
03:37 PM on 02/05/2011
Many of the tragedies around here resulting from drunken driving are caused by people driving with suspended or revoked licenses. If someone will drive drunk, they will drive without a license.